It's down over 70% in units and nearly 40% in revenue from BF1...
But I'm sure that's just Rian Johnson's fault right?
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NPD December 2017: Call of Duty WW2 #1 SW, Nintendo Switch #1 HW
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It's down over 70% in units and nearly 40% in revenue from BF1...
But I'm sure that's just Rian Johnson's fault right?
Great news.
I think a lot of publishers are reconsidering putting that kind of intrusive monetization in their games. MTX, DLC, Season pass are fine but your whole game design shouldn't be thought around the idea of making you spend the most money on the game.
That is... uh, bad.
How much of that is thanks to bundles? BF1 bundles in 2015 sold well over 1M.
Wow, I figured it was bad but I didn't think it was this bad.
Disney has to be pissed at this, right?
Maybe this would open up a licensing option to Factor 5 Reborn to release the Rogue Squadron trilogy for consoles...
With the shift to November sales, you really need to look at November+December numbers to see how a console sold during the holidays.
Ok, that's bad. VERY bad.
Battlefront 1 sold 4.68 million at retail in 2015, and a lot of units were from the bundle (like >1 million), so digital ratio can't be much big... at the time digital was like 20% for most games.
I'll speculate now, do not quote me right there, but i imagine that, at best, Battlefront 1 got 20% digital (at maximum, probabily way less), and total sales could be under 6 million ( maybe under 5.5 million).
So Battlefront 2 probabily sold only 1.6-1.8 million. AGAIN, just speculate.
Battlefront 1 sold 4.68 million at retail in 2015, and a lot of units were from the bundle (like >1 million), so digital ratio can't be much big... at the time digital was like 20% for most games.
I'll speculate now, do not quote me right there, but i imagine that, at best, Battlefront 1 got 20% digital (at maximum, probabily way less), and total sales could be under 6 million ( maybe under 5.5 million).
So Battlefront 2 probabily sold only 1.6-1.8 million. AGAIN, just speculate.
I'm gonna quote my post from the other thread and ask again here since it seems like all the discussion migrated to this one.
So yea any information as to how the revenue rankings went for HW?
So yea any information as to how the revenue rankings went for HW?
Sorry for quoting, but the First Battlefront sold WAAY over 10 milloin copies. Has to be at least 15 million at this point.
Edit. 14 million as of May 2016
Against all odds, the new "Star Wars" game is a major hit - Business Insider
What, how is that RJ's fault? He just directed the best Star Wars film made.
And still It's selling more than your average game, It would have sold better for sure without the controversy.
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We know from Nintendo that switch sold 1.5 million, and we know from an Xbox PR tweet that the order was switch>Xbox>ps4. It also got leaked that xb1 was 1.36 million and PS4 was 1.08 million (3DS was 750k).
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We know the round numbers before this thread was opened :P
XB1 ~1.36m
PS4 ~1.08m
It's possible, but trilogy would be switch only since that's what factor v wants to do, and it's the only system that can support all game modes out of the box(it has a motion controlled lightsaber fighting mode)
Which is worldwide shipments, and i talk about US sales.........
I'm really sorry, I was tying that post in a rush and couldn't remember the exact numbers. Thanks heaps, I'll edit them in :)
Oh wow, that's massive. Can't say I'm sad, though, it's the pinnacle of what I don't want gaming to become. Glad it's getting struck with backlash.
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Very good sales numbers for Xenoblade.
Wish Nintendo would give it a bigger push though. Monolith deserves that AAA treatment.
Wish Nintendo would give it a bigger push though. Monolith deserves that AAA treatment.
If true, we could see something like Kirby sell more than freaking Star Wars?! How the mighty have fallen.
In other news, consoles are healthier than ever. Couldn't be a better time to be a videogame fan.
US, the Xbox is never going to outsell the PS worldwide during any month.
How much does Kirby sell in the US? It's probably just me being out of touch with the franchise, but I hold Kirby as a moderate seller, at least when compared to the AAA space.
They were the ones that sold exclusivity rights, its their fault.
Notice how they haven't painted themselves into a corner with a single partner on the Marvel licencing side of things, with multiple marvel licenced products from multiple studios.
I can't find reliable US numbers for the franchise, so maybe my affirmation was hyperbolic as I was messing up Kirby's global numbers with domestic ones... Maybe if we compare Kirby's WW numbers with Battlefront's US numbers we'll have a fairer fight haha.
Maybe you want to contextualise what those "a ____ game" titles actually were, because you're mostly talking ports, spin offs and remasters.
- Fire Emblem is in the same boat as Samus Returns. Complete remake of an earlier game. They can be compared
- Spinoffs don't mean sales should be lower. Look at Mario Kart. Hey! Pikmin and Mario Sports Superstars both released earlier in the year than SR and were promoted through multiple directs.
- Yoshi was a Wii U port. 13m consoles vs. the 3DS' 70m. It would be brand new to most of the userbase
- M&L SS I can maybe see the port argument. But again, it has an entirely new mode, is a port of the fan favorite of the series, is likely new to a lot of the userbase and was revealed at E3 just like SR
To Sony, shipped and sell through are the same. I don't think they see any difference
if they don't sell through they can ship as much as they want and it's pointless.
I don't think people were under the impression that it bombs in NA. That only happens in Japan.
It's not pointless.
They make money sending to retailers, not to consumers. After one, two months it's all about MTX of initial sales (retention + acquisition too, but these days that's mostly digital), so yes retail sell in is incredibly important.
It's guaranteed return on investment.
Digital can be riskier sometimes since you aren't guaranteed any recoup of costs, since you have to sell a unit to a player to make money. Retail offers you upfront revenue so you don't have to fire everyone immediately after a game ships.
Going through the thread I seem to be the only person asking about or interested in XB1X performance for the month in relation to total XBX HW and PS4 Pro. Unless I missed some discussion somewhere?
I figured there would be a lot more people asking about it given just how often it was talked about in these threads all year long leading up to its release. It seems like interest in its performance fell off a cliff after it's debut month. Personally I'd really like to know how it's sales stack up both in relation to the S and the other recently released iterative upgrade.
I figured there would be a lot more people asking about it given just how often it was talked about in these threads all year long leading up to its release. It seems like interest in its performance fell off a cliff after it's debut month. Personally I'd really like to know how it's sales stack up both in relation to the S and the other recently released iterative upgrade.
I'm sure a lot of people are interested. I just don't think there's any data available (outside of MS).
you are right. google search for xbox one x sales gives a lot of statements how amazin the console launch was, but after that there is radio silence apart from some articles who either say the future of xbox is peachy or turdy. nasty people might say that if there is no statement about current sales of the one x there might not be much to knit a good story from - or they are just drunk with happiness and paralysed from the overall success of the most powerful console of all times.
if there is proof needed for the stellar triumph, it's that the xbox one x day one edition definitely sold out much faster than the og xbox one day one edition.
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Was data ever broken out by individual console SKU (i.e. slim vs. fat, original vs. S, etc.)?
The Scorpio edition is not still available anywhere right? So yea I'd say that's a big improvement over Day One edition haha
I vaguely remember having an idea of what the Pro to Slim split was for its launch months/year. At the time it seemed like what most everyone wanted to know. I guess I'm just a bit surprised to see what seems like so little interest in the performance of the X this month. But maybe I'm just mistaking lack of interest for tacit acceptance of the absence of information on the matter.
Sony execs mentioned a 20% share of the Pro several times, without being more specific of course. Mediacreate reports numbers for each SKU, but the resulting ratio doesn't necesarrily apply for the US.
In November someone who knows things spilled the beans with regard to the XBOX X (430k), but that includes all pre-orders of previous months on the one hand and happened in a month which is driven by discounts (hence pushed the baseline SKUs) on the other one. So that resulting ratio also doesn't necessarily apply for December nor the upcoming months.
Long story short, it would be great to at least get an idea how the X performed in December.
In November someone who knows things spilled the beans with regard to the XBOX X (430k), but that includes all pre-orders of previous months on the one hand and happened in a month which is driven by discounts (hence pushed the baseline SKUs) on the other one. So that resulting ratio also doesn't necessarily apply for December nor the upcoming months.
Long story short, it would be great to at least get an idea how the X performed in December.
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Huh? Did I miss something or is that just a snark remark to some comments?
He's probably referring to the recent 1st party Game Pass expansion by Microsoft.
The future implications of Game Pass is exciting for the industry at large imo. At least as someone who is all in on the digital future. Don't have much hope Nintendo following along though, heh. I think this is a move that can definitely make the Xbox brand grow even more.
Yeah, Game Pass is gonna wreak havoc on the game sales charts.
If a game gets a sequel, it did good. If it gets announced within a month of release, it did great. (mostly kidding)
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