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It's happening! (and tbh, I think this might be a Resetera exclusive™©®. No one else seem to have picked up the press release yet)
There's not much to it but it confirms:

No word on the creative team outside of the producers (Jane Tranter and Julie Gardner) but surely this has to be the Jack Thorne adaptation, I haven't heard anything about them approaching another writer.
Oh my favorite book franchise, please air in some form in america.
 

kevin1025

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It's happening! (and tbh, I think this might be a Resetera exclusive™©®. No one else seem to have picked up the press release yet)
There's not much to it but it confirms:

No word on the creative team outside of the producers (Jane Tranter and Julie Gardner) but surely this has to be the Jack Thorne adaptation, I haven't heard anything about them approaching another writer.

News of the week, heck yes! Filming this year makes it all the more real.
 

Joni

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Oct 27, 2017
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Uhhhhh. You might want to provide a source for that statement. Glee was massive internationally, and American Horror Story is real big internationally. American Crime Story and feud have at least done decent but numbers are a bit hard to come by.

I'm pretty sure Netflix has a better idea if Murphy's shows have a big audience Internationally than you.
Both American Horror Story and American Crime Story seem to get highlighted by Netflix.

Just looking at the countries where they are selling, how fast something like How To Get Away with Murder is sold versus a Scream Queens, where Glee didn't actually air all seasons, on which types of channels they get aired, ... Something like American Horror Story aired on FOX International. Stuff like American Crime Story and Feud certainly are very US centric which makes them harder to relate because Europe doesn't have the same backstory.
 

G_Shumi

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Tuesday night's Olympics and ABC reality show ratings:

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berzeli

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Just looking at the countries where they are selling, how fast something like How To Get Away with Murder is sold versus a Scream Queens, where Glee didn't actually air all seasons, on which types of channels they get aired, ... Something like American Horror Story aired on FOX International. Stuff like American Crime Story and Feud certainly are very US centric which makes them harder to relate because Europe doesn't have the same backstory.
Yet again, I want the actual sources. I think your methodology might be flawed. The lists on who airs what that are easily accessible are poorly maintained and usually quite inaccurate.
If you look at social media, ratings (IMDb, RT), Google Trends, etc. the engagement of AHS is even bigger than Grey's Anatomy (and I know how flawed my own methodology is).
News of the week, heck yes! Filming this year makes it all the more real.
I'm only worried because they don't mention Jack Thorne in the press release
 

CrichtonKicks

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Oct 25, 2017
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Deadline or THR pointed out that Fox had a $35-$40 million deal on the table for Murphy (which is already in the 200m range for 5 years ) so Netflix had to up the ante even further. Explains some of the discrepancy with Rhimes.
 

kevin1025

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I'm only worried because they don't mention Jack Thorne in the press release

Definitely a sad omission. They're using the same Wales production studio from a quick search, so hopefully there's an update that he is still involved. But it looks like he did a four-part drama, the Damien Chazelle drama, and worked on Episode IX since he was announced for this, so maybe it all sidelined him.

But he seems to be a machine, so maybe it was finished ages ago, haha.
 

Zoe

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How is 12 monkeys ending? Does it seems complete? also is it a good show?
Has there been recent news? I must have missed it.

Anyway, the show really started to pick up near the end of season 2, and season 3 was total awesomesauce. Ending with the fourth season appears to be planned.
 
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Definitely a sad omission. They're using the same Wales production studio from a quick search, so hopefully there's an update that he is still involved. But it looks like he did a four-part drama, the Damien Chazelle drama, and worked on Episode IX since he was announced for this, so maybe it all sidelined him.

But he seems to be a machine, so maybe it was finished ages ago, haha.
Yeah, still the same production company as when it was announced but no mention of the BBC or Thorne as in the 2016 announcement.

Dude is insane, stuff he wrote in addition to what you mentioned: Wonder, an episode of Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams, he's been announced as the screenwriter for four upcoming films (The Aeronauts, The Secret Garden, Radioactive: Marie & Pierre Curie: A Tale of Love and Fallout, and a unnamed Yusra Mardini biopic), and he's working on another TV series (The Virtues) with Shane Meadows (known for This is England)
lol. I had actually forgotten about the Curie film.

I really hope it's his version though. He's such a good writer.
 

Pluto

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It's happening! (and tbh, I think this might be a Resetera exclusive™©®. No one else seem to have picked up the press release yet)
There's not much to it but it confirms:

No word on the creative team outside of the producers (Jane Tranter and Julie Gardner) but surely this has to be the Jack Thorne adaptation, I haven't heard anything about them approaching another writer.
Yes, please. Can' wait, this will be awesome, I love the novels so much.
 

Alastor3

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Has there been recent news? I must have missed it.

Anyway, the show really started to pick up near the end of season 2, and season 3 was total awesomesauce. Ending with the fourth season appears to be planned.

Yeah I just saw there will be a final season, might wait for it.

Any comedy show that just ended?
 

Curler

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Oct 26, 2017
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Obviously, they wouldn't be doing it otherwise.

Well Netflix doesn't reveal much so it's not that obvious. Really though, is it actually beneficial if say, 4 million tune in to part 1 and then 4 million tune into part 2? Still might be the same amount of people watching it, unless they decide to add them together to "8 million". Maybe it's a fiscal year thing in getting x views in on time? Just trying to understand it.
 

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Could be them trying to minimize viewer drop off as a season progresses. Seeing there's only 6 new episodes up may make more people finish them compared to when there are 13 episodes.
 

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Well Netflix doesn't reveal much so it's not that obvious. Really though, is it actually beneficial if say, 4 million tune in to part 1 and then 4 million tune into part 2? Still might be the same amount of people watching it, unless they decide to add them together to "8 million". Maybe it's a fiscal year thing in getting x views in on time? Just trying to understand it.
What if Netflix released episodes of a season in separate parts? Like they would release them one episode every month? Or, no, even better, what about one episode every WEEK? That would be so revolutionary!
 

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Netflix only cares about subscriber counts, year round. It's not hard to imagine why they want popular content releasing weekly all year. Which is why shorter but more frequent releases of popular series makes sense.
 

CrichtonKicks

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Could be them trying to minimize viewer drop off as a season progresses. Seeing there's only 6 new episodes up may make more people finish them compared to when there are 13 episodes.

Since this seems to only happen to comedies I suspect that this is the root- 30 minute comedies probably don't have the same binge factor as serialized dramas. They probably find they get better retention within a series by releasing them in smaller blocks. I love Kimmy Schmidt but I find I will tap out for the night after about two episodes.
 

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Mindwipe

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Well Netflix doesn't reveal much so it's not that obvious. Really though, is it actually beneficial if say, 4 million tune in to part 1 and then 4 million tune into part 2? Still might be the same amount of people watching it, unless they decide to add them together to "8 million". Maybe it's a fiscal year thing in getting x views in on time? Just trying to understand it.

It's because fundamentally launching the entire season at once is actually not a very good idea. Instead of getting a bunch of publicity every week you only get it once and then it's gone.

Netflix can't quite bring themselves to abandon the binge model despite the fact it makes complete sense to, so these half seasons are them attempting to get something back.
 

CrichtonKicks

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It's because fundamentally launching the entire season at once is actually not a very good idea. Instead of getting a bunch of publicity every week you only get it once and then it's gone.

Netflix can't quite bring themselves to abandon the binge model despite the fact it makes complete sense to, so these half seasons are them attempting to get something back.

But they are pretty much only doing it with the comedies. I don't know that it actually makes sense to get rid of the model with serialized dramas.
 

ZeoVGM

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I still remember the last time they did that and how they quickly cancelled shows like Valentine. Not saying it'll be the same now, because everything has changed.

Also it's strange how they're putting their promising superhero show against Winter Olympics, it's suicide in most cases.

It's a bit weird but I guess the other option would be starting after the Olympics, right? Otherwise, it would be airing 3-4 episodes then taking a break early on.
 

TheNatureBoy

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I don't see Netflix ever going away completely from the binge model, as they really pioneered the format and a lot of people like choosing to watch all at once. It hurts there shows in terms of promotion or being in the zeitgeist sometimes, but I don't see why they would care if you watch original show the 1st month in premieres or a couple months later, as long as you are subscribing.

CW expanding to Sunday night programming is great, if it increases the chances of iZombie or The 100 being renewed.
 

Sulik2

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If netflix dumped the binge model I would unsubscribe, the only way I can even watch serialized TV is by binging it. The weekly model is awful from a viewer's standpoint and I could never go back to it.
 

CrichtonKicks

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Oct 25, 2017
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If netflix dumped the binge model I would unsubscribe, the only way I can even watch serialized TV is by binging it. The weekly model is awful from a viewer's standpoint and I could never go back to it.

I don't know that I would unsubscribe but I would probably just wait until the season is over. Even with the shows that we record weekly on the DVR we typically just let them pile up and the binge through a show at a time once we have 10 episodes or so saved up. I have very little interest in watching serialized dramas week to week.
 

Gamer @ Heart

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Netflix wants the extended word of mouth of a split season because they can't back out of the episode dump binge watch pattern they committed themselves to.
 

firehawk12

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think with Star Trek, I'm glad for the week to week. I don't really like being forced to watch a show in a single day.
I know "forced" is relative, but if you don't watch it all in one go, you might as well not bother.
 

CrichtonKicks

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I think with Star Trek, I'm glad for the week to week. I don't really like being forced to watch a show in a single day.
I know "forced" is relative, but if you don't watch it all in one go, you might as well not bother.

? I don't get it. The idea of having the whole season available at once s that you can set your own pace. What is the bother of watching 2-3 episodes a day (or none or whatever) as long as it meets your schedule?
 

firehawk12

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? I don't get it. The idea of having the whole season available at once s that you can set your own pace. What is the bother of watching 2-3 episodes a day (or none or whatever) as long as it meets your schedule?
Gotta keep up with all the people watching it, and the critics, or you get spoiled.
I had the ending of One Day at a Time spoiled for me in a review that came out literally three days after Netflix dropped it. lol
 

Sandfox

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I don't know about Voltron, but they did that for The Get Down because the show was expensive and taking forever to produce. The 2nd half of the show cut costs somewhat with the animated segments they did.
I blame Jaden Smith for that. He clearly had scheduling conflicts for the second half and his character either showed up during the animated scenes or was seperated from the rest group for a lot of it.
 

CrichtonKicks

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Gotta keep up with all the people watching it, and the critics, or you get spoiled.
I had the ending of One Day at a Time spoiled for me in a review that came out literally three days after Netflix dropped it. lol

I guess I just don't run in those circles. I still get the general buzz of most new releases so I know what I need to add to my "to watch" list but I rarely encounter spoilers.
 

Joni

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If netflix dumped the binge model I would unsubscribe, the only way I can even watch serialized TV is by binging it. The weekly model is awful from a viewer's standpoint and I could never go back to it.
It means a lot more interaction and speculation though, which can help viewer buy-in.
 

KonradLaw

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How is 12 monkeys ending? Does it seems complete? also is it a good show?
Since Person of Interest ended it has been the best SF show on TV :) And it just keeps getting better and better.
Has there been recent news? I must have missed it.

Anyway, the show really started to pick up near the end of season 2, and season 3 was total awesomesauce. Ending with the fourth season appears to be planned.
AFAIR they filmed season 3 and 4 pretty much back to back. Syfy renewed it for both of those seasons and told them the show was done after that, so they had time to plan proper ending
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If netflix dumped the binge model I would unsubscribe, the only way I can even watch serialized TV is by binging it. The weekly model is awful from a viewer's standpoint and I could never go back to it.
I have to disagree with this, it is vastly MUCH harder to try to binge watch a show than to at least know I just need to set out one hour per week for this show and I can at least watch it on dvr the next day or something and avoid being spoiled about it. Also its so hard to discuss shows on netflix since everyone is at different places.

Also have you ever tried to binge watch 5+ Price is Right or Wheel of Fortune episodes...its the worst.

I guess netflix part strategy guarantees they dont get the people who just subscribe for the month show comes out, then cancel for the next few months.
 

dead souls

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Oct 25, 2017
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If netflix dumped the binge model I would unsubscribe, the only way I can even watch serialized TV is by binging it. The weekly model is awful from a viewer's standpoint and I could never go back to it.

I couldn't disagree with this more. Weekly episodes is clearly the superior method of content delivery. I love having a variety of shows to watch every week and find that Netflix/Amazon shows that I watch quickly kind of blur together and don't really stick with me.

Re: CW expanding taking Sundays back from the affiliates--give me six nights of DC shows week please Pedowitz, you know you want to.
 
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