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Metal Gear Survive |OT| The Fandom Pain (Mod Note: Read OP)
- Thread starter Zeta Ori
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The game won't be for everyone. With the Metal Gear name attached (and all the politics that happened) it's going to be criticized heavily. I get it.
I'm not here for politics, though. I'm here to talk about a game that I, myself, find pretty damn fun so I disagree with everything Kotaku said.
You start slow. You have 1 area near your base where sheep will eventually redrawn. That's your source of food, and water. It might be dirty water and raw meat but you take what you can.
Eventually, you'll have your campfire which can purify those things for you and let you gain more points towards hunger/thirst.
So now I have clean food/water. I'll venture out and discover new areas. Or I'll come across a place that has more animals to hunt. Ok, so now I have 2-3 places I can gather food and keep a bigger supply with me.
I'm configuring my base now and I see I can now grow vegetables as well as keep a water tank. Granted, these give you a certain amount after a certain amount of time. It may not be the best form of gaining food/water but it's a guarantee.
Slowly but surely, you'll find ways to help make the ticking down of your hunger/thirst more manageable.
I don't agree that the game holds your hand. Maybe they are still playing the tutorial? Once you get the oxygen tank, you can freely move around the map. You might even get lost in the Mist, coming across new areas with containers that have new gear. So that part I'm a little confused about.
Clumsy systems might be in reference to the UI. I agree they could have handled things better. What really sucks is not being able to choose how many of something you want to craft. Let's say I want 10 pieces of iron..I have to go one by one instead of giving me the option to just choose 10 from the start. You can do this with ammo, though. Weird decision.
I can't speak for co-op yet since I haven't tried. Can someone comment on the bullet sponges they are talking about? I think it's just a matter of upgrading your equipment/skills. Maybe they were low level?
As I said, the game won't be for everyone. If you love it? Awesome. That's how I feel. Between the survival aspect and getting gear, it's been pretty addictive. If you don't like it? That's perfectly fine. You have your reasons.
I don't blame people for disliking it after the beta and being wary about a purchase. The beta was too confusing and overwhelming.
I'm not here for politics, though. I'm here to talk about a game that I, myself, find pretty damn fun so I disagree with everything Kotaku said.
You start slow. You have 1 area near your base where sheep will eventually redrawn. That's your source of food, and water. It might be dirty water and raw meat but you take what you can.
Eventually, you'll have your campfire which can purify those things for you and let you gain more points towards hunger/thirst.
So now I have clean food/water. I'll venture out and discover new areas. Or I'll come across a place that has more animals to hunt. Ok, so now I have 2-3 places I can gather food and keep a bigger supply with me.
I'm configuring my base now and I see I can now grow vegetables as well as keep a water tank. Granted, these give you a certain amount after a certain amount of time. It may not be the best form of gaining food/water but it's a guarantee.
Slowly but surely, you'll find ways to help make the ticking down of your hunger/thirst more manageable.
I don't agree that the game holds your hand. Maybe they are still playing the tutorial? Once you get the oxygen tank, you can freely move around the map. You might even get lost in the Mist, coming across new areas with containers that have new gear. So that part I'm a little confused about.
Clumsy systems might be in reference to the UI. I agree they could have handled things better. What really sucks is not being able to choose how many of something you want to craft. Let's say I want 10 pieces of iron..I have to go one by one instead of giving me the option to just choose 10 from the start. You can do this with ammo, though. Weird decision.
I can't speak for co-op yet since I haven't tried. Can someone comment on the bullet sponges they are talking about? I think it's just a matter of upgrading your equipment/skills. Maybe they were low level?
As I said, the game won't be for everyone. If you love it? Awesome. That's how I feel. Between the survival aspect and getting gear, it's been pretty addictive. If you don't like it? That's perfectly fine. You have your reasons.
I don't blame people for disliking it after the beta and being wary about a purchase. The beta was too confusing and overwhelming.
How do you get clean water? I just my O2 tank and I am dangerously low on thirst. Should I use the dirty water?
There's a chance to find clean water around the map but it seems rare. The best way is crafting it at the campfire...BUT you needed the upgraded campfire, which you'll get as you progress. Using dirty water is your only option for the early game. There may be a chance you'll get an infection and if that happens, check your storage. You might have a bunch of pills in there to help.
Speaking of the campfire and crafting...
You have bottles and canteens. Canteens can hold more water, so you'll gain more towards Thirst.
Let's say you want to craft a canteen of clean water. You need 5 bottles of dirty water and an empty canteen + 10 KUB. With that, you get about 1800 points towards Thirst when used.
Another way (different recipe) to craft a Canteen of clean water is by using 2 bottles of clean water and one empty canteen. This is less about actually crafting and more a way to transfer from the smaller bottle to the bigger canteen. Tutorials don't explain this and it's hard to miss. When crafting, you'll see "press X to change recipe." I just figured this out a few moments ago.
Also in terms of crafting when it comes to animals meat, the basic campfire lets you cook meat that gives you 700 towards Hunger. When you use the upgraded campfire, you can use the raw meat you get from animals + clean water to craft soup, which recovers 900 for BOTH Thirst and Hunger AND it apparently increases your sprinting speed.
Its mainly single player from what I gather. Theres not even coop in the campaign.
Just beat the campaign. Post game is extensive.
There may or may not be Monster Hunter type enemies. Hopefully this is a multiplayer mode.
There may or may not be Monster Hunter type enemies. Hopefully this is a multiplayer mode.
Any other cool head gear in the game? Don't really want to spend the whole game with a box on my head lol.
Apparently you can reduce that with upgrades/perks. Thank god, because right now I feel like I can't even take a breather in the base to take stock of everything.
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I'm completely out of food. Just got the potato farm, but the hunger rate seems a bit much.
I might just do that sheep farming thing.
I might just do that sheep farming thing.
Just played about two and a half hours of it, I am surprisingly into it. It's a lot to take in, but there are a ton of gameplay mechanics that could be super interesting the further they go into it, but it could also become tedious real fast.
The hunger and thirst meters drop just a little too fast for my liking, I hope that changes over the course of the game because it's a little too extreme how much you need to search for those resources (especially in the first hour of gameplay).
It feels like a new take on Metal Gear, for good and bad, but it's absolutely not unappealing by any measure. Going into this game I really did not expect any type of big story, so I'm super into what I have seen so far of it and people seem to have some strong reactions to it.
Also please implement a better AA solution like TAA into the game, it's a little jaggy at times.
The hunger and thirst meters drop just a little too fast for my liking, I hope that changes over the course of the game because it's a little too extreme how much you need to search for those resources (especially in the first hour of gameplay).
It feels like a new take on Metal Gear, for good and bad, but it's absolutely not unappealing by any measure. Going into this game I really did not expect any type of big story, so I'm super into what I have seen so far of it and people seem to have some strong reactions to it.
Also please implement a better AA solution like TAA into the game, it's a little jaggy at times.
Sorry if this derails discussion of Survive even a little bit, but I've been wondering, how good/bad an idea would it have been to make four or even two-player cooperative available in TPP via patch/paid DLC? Coop in that game seems almost too perfect. It's a little amusing that a game like Peace Walker, with its comparatively bite-sized levels, had coop but not an open-world game with multiple modes of transportation and deployment.
Honestly it makes a ton of sense due to how freeform MGSV is. There is tons of potential for players to communicate with each other to set up ambushes and execute complex synchronized sneaking maneuvers.
The missions would need to accommodate that amount of players and co-op experiences is a route I could see them go with another spinoff.
Im loving this gane, but I must be missing something when it comes to hunting/food. I cleared out all the hunting subquests around my base and the first teleported, and now I can't even fund gerbils to kill. I started farming, but the timer is like 120 hours on it.
How am I supposed to be getting food?
How am I supposed to be getting food?
Couple of questions.
1) I still haven't found Stainless Steel to make my Oxygen tank, making it difficult to progress out of the tutorial since one of the objectives is in the dust wall. I've looked around everywhere but can't find the piece to craft it.
2) When do you get access to non-quick match co-op? I was able to play with just friends in the beta, but the only option I currently have is "Quick Match: Easy"
1) I still haven't found Stainless Steel to make my Oxygen tank, making it difficult to progress out of the tutorial since one of the objectives is in the dust wall. I've looked around everywhere but can't find the piece to craft it.
2) When do you get access to non-quick match co-op? I was able to play with just friends in the beta, but the only option I currently have is "Quick Match: Easy"
Save, quit to main menu and load back your save to respawn your 3 sheep near your camp, repeat.
Is there a non-hacky thing I'm missing? Do other animals respawn after sleeping?
Managed to put in about three hours or so tonight. The slow opening was a real drag (seriously, I know it's a Metal Gear game, but I didn't expect that much exposition in this game), but so far the game is very fun. Definitely nothing like anything else in the series, and they definitely lean hard into the survival aspect.
Looking forward to playing this more tomorrow. Got just far enough to unlock the co-op missions, so my boyfriend and I'll be playing those.
Looking forward to playing this more tomorrow. Got just far enough to unlock the co-op missions, so my boyfriend and I'll be playing those.
Upgraded fire place makes the game much more bearable when it comes to thirst and hunger. I suggest people to plow through the first couple of hours of main story to get this necessity.
Should be able to. I played the beta with just my boyfriend, and we were able to do a private match with just the two of us.
Not too shabby. What would you personally rate it out of ten?
This is, quite literally, the worst game design ever.
Congratulations Konami.
So I unlocked coop, but there's literally only one mission right now and it auto-matchmakes additional players :(
When you reactivate the transporters, you'll begin 2 minutes or so trying to defend it. Let's say there's a mob of enemies near this location. These are the ones who will most likely be attacking you when the wave starts.
If you kill this mob THEN start the wave phase, you'll have a much easier time since you won't have to deal with that mob. You'll get a few strays here and there but it'll be easy. There will be a point no enemies show up and you're just waiting for the time to finish. Has happened a few times.
A little update on my progress:
-18 hours in
-Level 20
-42% of the map completed.
-I'm still using a spear, lol.
-My base has gotten bigger in terms of survivors and what I can build. More management comes into play as well.
If you kill this mob THEN start the wave phase, you'll have a much easier time since you won't have to deal with that mob. You'll get a few strays here and there but it'll be easy. There will be a point no enemies show up and you're just waiting for the time to finish. Has happened a few times.
A little update on my progress:
-18 hours in
-Level 20
-42% of the map completed.
-I'm still using a spear, lol.
-My base has gotten bigger in terms of survivors and what I can build. More management comes into play as well.
I rented this from redbox after they sent a free code. I had no desire to play it. Didn't even download the beta.
But this is surprisingly good and deep. Just ordered it from bestbuy to get the $10 gift card making it a $22 game. It's very different and i can see it being freakishly addicting.
Graphics are disappointing. 2.5 years and no longer tied to last gen consoles and it still sonehow looks worse than mgsv.
But this is surprisingly good and deep. Just ordered it from bestbuy to get the $10 gift card making it a $22 game. It's very different and i can see it being freakishly addicting.
Graphics are disappointing. 2.5 years and no longer tied to last gen consoles and it still sonehow looks worse than mgsv.
Oh, and someone asked how you can play a private match?
-Go into co-op
-Choose Accept Mission
-Choose salvage mission list
-Choose the one that says private match, underneath "quick match."
-When you're back in the staging area, press start for your menu and tab over to Social with LB.
-Choose your friends and press A to invite...Or you can join from that same tab if they have a lobby open.
Hope that helps!
-Go into co-op
-Choose Accept Mission
-Choose salvage mission list
-Choose the one that says private match, underneath "quick match."
-When you're back in the staging area, press start for your menu and tab over to Social with LB.
-Choose your friends and press A to invite...Or you can join from that same tab if they have a lobby open.
Hope that helps!
After a rough start with not much food or water I finally started to get the hang of it now I'm having a lot of fun and I'm enjoying the story as well.
Still to early for opinions. Got to see the extent of monster hunter.
Story was boring, characters were bland, gameplay was good, survival mechanics were fine, base building was great.
2/4 stars overall. Would only recommend to people interested in the survival elements or multiplayer components.
Level 39 currently. Anyone on ERA in a similar range/want to farm hard/normal mode?
I don't have that option yet, but I'm still in the tutorial. I only have Quick Match. Maybe you have to finish the tutorial to unlock private matches?
I finished the tutorial and still have nothing other than Quick Match.
Not sure if it's something that Konami needs to make available server-side or if I have to continue progressing.
Holy shit I started this game around 9pm and I figured I'd do a few missions here and there and then get to some other stuff. Just finished and went "cool, must be like, 11pm so I got plenty of time to do some other stuff."
It's freakin 1:30 am. First game in a LOOOONG time where I lost track of time.
Totally digging this game.... primarily because it's intensely satisfying using the spear for me.
Also, for those who have issues with starvation... I traverse the lands and go hunting. Haven't had a problem. You'll usually bump into a small pack of animals (I don't do this in the mist). Water? Well, I just got pretty lucky that I found some whenever I needed it. I also drank some dirty water a few times to make do but now that I'm on chapter ... nine? I'm in a pretty good spot. I'd say rush to get to Chapter 7 as you get something critical for thirst.
It's freakin 1:30 am. First game in a LOOOONG time where I lost track of time.
Totally digging this game.... primarily because it's intensely satisfying using the spear for me.
Also, for those who have issues with starvation... I traverse the lands and go hunting. Haven't had a problem. You'll usually bump into a small pack of animals (I don't do this in the mist). Water? Well, I just got pretty lucky that I found some whenever I needed it. I also drank some dirty water a few times to make do but now that I'm on chapter ... nine? I'm in a pretty good spot. I'd say rush to get to Chapter 7 as you get something critical for thirst.
I've ran into an annoying visual glitch where the face mask for the oxygen tank isn't showing up on my character. He's just breathing the dust in without issue, no matter what I do it just doesn't show up. My character does the animation and all, any solutions?
Well...this game does not make a good first impression. I don't know, I'm just finding the game to be pretty boring. Despite all of these survival mechanics and focus on exploration, everything feels super gamey and tedious. MGSV was a mission based action game, and that was far more immersive with its open world and sense of place. Enemy encounters are very simple and dull, at least at this point. It's also ridiculous to kill a bunch of zombie dudes and spend literally like 2 minutes harvesting kuban energy from their bodies. Seriously, that shit just feels so damn video gamey and unneeded. I also seriously do not care for how long it takes for the actual game to start. Some people here might vocalize that long ass cutscenes and exposition is what Metal Gear does. That's partly true, but the main difference is that those overblown cutscenes and moments of long winded dialogue are actually interesting in other Metal Gear games. A lot of the stuff here is pretty boring and very uneven with how it is presented.
I'll keep playing, but it's definitely not as interesting as I thought it would be. Everything about this game looked pretty cool pre-release, but now that I'm actually playing it, it definitely has more issues that I have trouble looking past.
I'll keep playing, but it's definitely not as interesting as I thought it would be. Everything about this game looked pretty cool pre-release, but now that I'm actually playing it, it definitely has more issues that I have trouble looking past.
Has anybody released any spoilers of the story? I have no intentions of playing this but I'm wondering how/if it connects to MGS proper.
Oh you want to play legitimately? Sure, just keep growing those potatoes. And yes those animals respawn quick.