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JJH

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,881
This thread
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Apollo

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
8,106
Checked out the updated mobile version. Looks great blown up on the iPhone 8 screen, but I really wish they'd add an option to disable whatever filter they've applied. Even more pressing is the need for an option for a fixed digital analog stick position. It's so uncomfortable the way movement is handled right now.
 

Havok

Member
Oct 27, 2017
559
Northern VA
Wow I was real excited for a minute or two. They have three other versions of this game that they could have ported from. Of course they went with the cheapest and least consumer-friendly version instead.
 

Carcosan Stag

Member
Oct 25, 2017
927
R'lyeh
*sees thread saying CT is on Steam*
*confusion ensues*
*realizes it's legit*
*internally screams with delight*
*realizes it's mobile port with shit-tier vaseline filter*

fuck everything.
 

Conkerkid11

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
13,971
Okay, so the tiles aren't supposed to look like that then? Alright, definitely refunding.

Even ignoring the filter, none of the tiles on the ground anywhere, or trees, etc... Match up. It's insane.
 

iFirez

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,585
England
I recently replayed the SNES version by putting it onto my SNES mini - it looked incredible. The screenshots and stream I just watched of this Steam version look atrocious.
 

Vareon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,856
My tweets are blowing the fuck up right now, but I think this might be the worst that Square Enix has ever treated one of their ports.

The title screen has bad tearing from the get go.
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Tiles don't even begin to match up.
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Characters are a blurry mess, the text is difficult to read.
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The character sprites have one filter, the background tiles have another, and then things like the flags, Leene's bell, and the shine on Marle's pendant don't have any filtering at all.

What the fuck is even going on here?

Here, let's dream for a second: http://portbegging.tumblr.com/post/75074889969/port-begging-for-chrono-trigger-publisher
Rlan put together what is arguably the best way to handle this treasure of a game. Keep things faithful, but update simple aspects (like the aspect ratio) to meet modern expectations.

If you want to play Chrono Trigger in its best official way, grab the DS version. Lots of improvements over the PSX version and an updated translation that has a slightly more faithful take.
If you want to play Chrono Trigger in its best unofficial way, grab a Wii U, the DS version of Chrono Trigger, and use homebrew to play the top screen on your TV and the touch screen on your Wii U Gamepad.

But whatever you do, don't buy this version of the game.

The entire map had tiling errors. Like, you need to make an effort to not care about this when porting a game.
 

PensivePen

Member
Oct 25, 2017
392
Okay, so the tiles aren't supposed to look like that then? Alright, definitely refunding.

Even ignoring the filter, none of the tiles on the ground anywhere, or trees, etc... Match up. It's insane.
The tiles have always been like this, but the bad filtering makes it extremely obvious where the seams in them are. It's much harder to tell if you're playing the original game with none of the filtering applied, and even harder to spot them playing it on a CRT on genuine hardware.
 

Byvar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
535
From the stream it sounds like the soundtrack hasn't been touched at all, contrary to what is stated in the press release. Perhaps a slight upgrade in sample quality, but I can't really hear any difference. Weird.
 

Antitype

Member
Oct 27, 2017
439
This looks awful, that filtering is a disaster and naturally they had to go with the mobile UI. I'll stick to the DS version.
 

Agni Kai

Member
Nov 2, 2017
6,961
What the hell did they do to this game. It's my favorite game ever. I got so happy when I saw it on Steam and then I see all of the screenshots. That mobile overlay just killed me.
 

Kientin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,278
Ugh. I really want them to release FFT on Steam, but then I see this and I think I don't want them to release FFT on Steam. At least it's not a remake in the style of FFV and FFVI.
 

Radline

Member
Oct 28, 2017
928
I knew something was fishy when this got suddenly announced.

I guess I'll get the Wii VC version instead.
 

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,622
Just refunded this super-eagle-sorta misaligned tile cellphone mess.

Not at that price.

Also, good question coming up for Square.... why?
 

JRoth

Member
Oct 26, 2017
420
Well there's the Wii VC versions of all those games...while they last.
VC, the idea behind this is great. While I love that this service exists, if anything where to happen to my Wii and if the store stopped allowing me to re-download that media. I would be straight up boned at that point.

Sadly, as others have echoed prior to this post, I will stick to my CIB CT and DS port of it. One day, I would love to just wrap my arms around this title on other media, just so long that I know I can always keep it.
 

Mars People

Comics Council 2020
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,203
Aren't there good upscaling filters like Waifu2x?
What on earth did they even use for this?

And not making it a toggle is mind blowing.
 

PepsimanVsJoe

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,148
Nah FF6 PC corrupts itself as you play so unless this does that too nope.
Oh really? I saw one or two Steam reviews mention that they lost their saves, but I didn't know that it corrupts itself over time.
I got as far as the Cultist's Tower (which I couldn't finish because the boss-fight would soft lock) so I gave up and wrote a review.

S-E needs to be taken to task for these ridiculously lazy and awful ports.
 

Jonneh

Good Vibes Gaming
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
4,538
UK
The sad thing is, Europe only received their first localisation of Chrono Trigger 9 years ago - being the wonderful DS port. That's certainly a great way to introduce this masterful RPG to a new audience but everything since then has been extremely poor. This is one of the most celebrated games of all time and it hardly has a presence outside of American and Japan. They even charged us 900 Wii points for the luxury of playing it on Virtual Console, and that's an awkward number!
 

Ruruja

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,716
I really hate this filter and it boggles my mind how people like it.

I'll probably get the game on sale, but it's so annoying to look at.
 

Razorrin

Member
Nov 7, 2017
5,236
the HELP Menu.
It does, but we're too busy complaining about them not releasing more mobile ports, but also, that they keep releasing mobile ports.

I'll make it clear where I stand, I will Always appreciate these games getting new life on newer devices, I just wish it wasn't Almost Always a Compromise on quality.

like, I'm glad they put the DS content in there, but why are there immediately (not in my case, I'll admit) obvious tileing errors? I almost want to say stuff like this is a management issue, where they keep fudging with the process until they ship something incomplete, because I don't think any company with at least mild success in porting would just miss this.

I'm not even mad at the tileing at this point, I just feel like looking into the circumstances that lead to the port!
 

Negator

Member
Oct 25, 2017
541
Square Enix is the Monkey Paw of game developers. They cant do anything with their classic games without massively fucking it up.