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Halo |OT| She's Gone, Sir
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Yeah, it's a real shame but I don't blame anyone for leaving. Like it or not, esports, and being a gamer personality is a business and Halo doesn't have the draw that it used to, that and we're 2 years into this games cycle, and we're probably not getting a new game for at least another year, really kills the excitement. 343 needs to do something to reinvigorate some interest, whether that's partnering with MLG for HCS, or announcing the new title or something. Just something to get people to care again.
it's funny how four k's are so much preferable to three?
[my gerd, i need the bone X, i needs it now]
Halo 5 is lookin' pretty good at 4K. Linking the images for those on mobile.
http://abload.de/img/halo5guardians35wxut2.png
http://abload.de/img/halo5guardians36g4ue5.png
Halo Wars 2 doesn't look too bad, either. I can't upload the gameplay screenshots I took, though, they're all over 15 megabytes. :lol
But honestly, Halo 3's changes are most impressive. Really brings out the detail Bungie put in there all those years ago. Look at how the Ark is actually a solid object in this shot, not just painted on the background.
http://abload.de/img/halo3zssm2.png
http://abload.de/img/halo5guardians35wxut2.png
http://abload.de/img/halo5guardians36g4ue5.png
Halo Wars 2 doesn't look too bad, either. I can't upload the gameplay screenshots I took, though, they're all over 15 megabytes. :lol
But honestly, Halo 3's changes are most impressive. Really brings out the detail Bungie put in there all those years ago. Look at how the Ark is actually a solid object in this shot, not just painted on the background.
http://abload.de/img/halo3zssm2.png
Oddball is too fun, but the idiocy of some teammates is mind boggling. Obviously a problem in all objective playlists, but given the simplicity of this gametype it's more frustrating.
I die getting a triple kill. Then watch my teammate 'guarding' the oddball for 8 seconds, without picking it up. We needed 8 seconds to win.
I die getting a triple kill. Then watch my teammate 'guarding' the oddball for 8 seconds, without picking it up. We needed 8 seconds to win.
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At least he ALMOST gets it. I go entire streaks of games where teammates have no concept of getting ahead in numbers before grabbing the ball. They are literally blind to anything and everything except charging full speed ahead for the ball or ball carrier. And when we get the ball, there's no set up, no team work. Run around like a chicken with its head cut off and charge the enemy for that one hit kill smack.
I had players try to betray me for the ball. Feels like the olden days.
I'm off to new York to launch* the Scorpio.
* stand around not even looking pretty while other people actually launch the Scorpio
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He's sitting right in front of me on this plane but hasn't noticed yet. I'm gonna start kicking the seat. Maybe that will convince him.
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I feel like a dummy, but I have no idea how this thing is supposed to work. I typed in the name and clicked the enter arrow, but it never showed up on my browser list.
I'm probably one of those people
Not because I don't understand how the mode works, but because holding the ball is kinda boring. I'll do it if we're losing and need the points or we're about to win. However, if we're massively in the lead I generally leave it for others to pick up...
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Nothing wrong with not grabbing an objective if you're better serving your team by doing things you're good at. I give a lot of thought to random team behaviors and lots of things are excusable that wouldn't be if you went in with friends. I tend to grab the ball and flag because I'm better at dodging and jumping and frustrating players than I am at shooting or ad how strategizing. It's probably a frustrating look to strangers, but I tend to do well so it might be a wash.
I will say that the single worst possible behavior, in some ways worse than betraying, is berating strangers for not being good enough. I probably encounter that jerk every five or six games. "None of you idiots have mics, leave the sniper alone that's mine, why didn't you protect me, wah wah wah " It INVARIABLY makes the team play WORSE, and nobody wants to help that guy. I've even sent polite messages after the game noting the negative effects if that kind of commentary.
You can probably guess how most folks react. Funniest thing about it is that guy tends to never finish in first place on his team anyway.
Nothing wrong with not grabbing an objective if you're better serving your team by doing things you're good at. I give a lot of thought to random team behaviors and lots of things are excusable that wouldn't be if you went in with friends. I tend to grab the ball and flag because I'm better at dodging and jumping and frustrating players than I am at shooting or ad how strategizing. It's probably a frustrating look to strangers, but I tend to do well so it might be a wash.
I will say that the single worst possible behavior, in some ways worse than betraying, is berating strangers for not being good enough. I probably encounter that jerk every five or six games. "None of you idiots have mics, leave the sniper alone that's mine, why didn't you protect me, wah wah wah " It INVARIABLY makes the team play WORSE, and nobody wants to help that guy. I've even sent polite messages after the game noting the negative effects if that kind of commentary.
You can probably guess how most folks react. Funniest thing about it is that guy tends to never finish in first place on his team anyway.
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Almost lost a massive lead because it seemed like my entire team was doing that. They'd leave it to someone else, and that someone else ended up being the enemy.
If people are gonna choose to play an objective gametype, it would be nice if they would play the objective.
If crouching in corner with the ball isn't ones cup of tea, they can pick it up when necessary, then drop it and slay when the opportunity presents itself. There's no reason being the ball carrier should be boring if you are playing right.
Almost lost a massive lead because it seemed like my entire team was doing that. They'd leave it to someone else, and that someone else ended up being the enemy.
If people are gonna choose to play an objective gametype, it would be nice if they would play the objective.
If crouching in corner with the ball isn't ones cup of tea, they can pick it up when necessary, then drop it and slay when the opportunity presents itself. There's no reason being the ball carrier should be boring if you are playing right.
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I just hate players in Assault. Unlike flag, there's one place to be pushing or defending. Then you have teammates wandering aimlessly.
Honestly if this doesn't persuade him to bring back a charming British RPG I don't know what will.
Honestly if this doesn't persuade him to bring back a charming British RPG I don't know what will.
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Remember, if you see a rat and cat fighting, don't follow them; it's a trap. They'll steal your wallet. And your dignity.
Don't feed them, and don't make eye contact.
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I'm one of those people that love holding the oddball for a whole game, but that's because I like the positioning/mindgaming aspect a lot, especially keeping on changing their firing lanes on me. The worst thing to do is stand in one spot. One area can work, but staying put just lets the other team set up lines on you.
It's fine if you don't want to grab the ball, but I recommend for the more slayery types, just always stay near the ball somewhere and cut off the other team as they cross the map to the ball. It's more valuable for the ball holder to hold it for 5 more points than drop it and start shooting the other team.
Ultimate dick move is if they've got you dead to rights, stand facing over the ledge so that when they kill you it'll reset the ball. You'll soak up ball points until then.
The basic cycle of oddball is
Am I need shoot? No -> someone should be holding the ball. Am need shoot? Yes everyone shoot except the ball carrier. About to play ball? Get on spawn point, grab ball as soon as it comes back. Don't like holding the ball? keep a shoot circle aroudnd the ball (but don't stand right next to the ball, you're running zone defense)
Back in the Halo 2 days I used to taunt everyone else snaking around the map with the ball by making the 3 Stooges "woop woop woop" sounds as they tried to BR me
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Oddball:
1: it's better for your team to score, then for no team to score
2: It's better for no team to score, than for your enemy to score
3: it's better to live, than to die.
These are the 3 ever present realities in Oddball, and should be the basis of the decision to hold the ball, leave it, or throw it off the map.
Don't die trying to pickup the ball. Don't die holding the ball, trying to get a couple extra seconds, when slaying will allow you much more time to hold it. that said, don't drop the ball to engage in a fight you can't win. If you are going to die with the ball, get it out of bounds, somewhere convienent for your teammates or somewhere inconvienent for everyone.
If you're the only person around the ball, pick it up, even if you don't want it. You need all the points! give it to someone else when the time is right.
1: it's better for your team to score, then for no team to score
2: It's better for no team to score, than for your enemy to score
3: it's better to live, than to die.
These are the 3 ever present realities in Oddball, and should be the basis of the decision to hold the ball, leave it, or throw it off the map.
Don't die trying to pickup the ball. Don't die holding the ball, trying to get a couple extra seconds, when slaying will allow you much more time to hold it. that said, don't drop the ball to engage in a fight you can't win. If you are going to die with the ball, get it out of bounds, somewhere convienent for your teammates or somewhere inconvienent for everyone.
If you're the only person around the ball, pick it up, even if you don't want it. You need all the points! give it to someone else when the time is right.
I just had my most highlight worthy game of h5. I opened with a killing spree, Got 3 snipper headshots (I'm terrible at sniping), 14 total headshot kills, got a stick, got a ninja, and 2 badass reversals. Went 20-12.
Somehow we lost 50-43.
Oh wait I know how, someone went 3 and 16.
:(
Somehow we lost 50-43.
Oh wait I know how, someone went 3 and 16.
:(
I feel like there is a photo(shop) op here with Back-Of-Phil's-Head + Oddball...
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Played a couple of Oddball matches. I'm #scrublyfe so lots of AR action but it was fun as hell.
I actually enjoy the tuned weapons, but the BR is just bad, and the storm rifle is now more OP than ever.
The adding random spread to the BR was extreme overkill. The RRR and burst rate changes already acted as a nerf- why also make the gun inconsistent? Precision weapons should be precice.
The Storm rifle should be taken out of the game. Its tier 3. I'm not sure how someone could see its position in this chart and say " this looks good guys"
The adding random spread to the BR was extreme overkill. The RRR and burst rate changes already acted as a nerf- why also make the gun inconsistent? Precision weapons should be precice.
The Storm rifle should be taken out of the game. Its tier 3. I'm not sure how someone could see its position in this chart and say " this looks good guys"
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I have professors who would slap the stuffing outta you, not labeling the Y axis like that.I actually enjoy the tuned weapons, but the BR is just bad, and the storm rifle is now more OP than ever.
The adding random spread to the BR was extreme overkill. The RRR and burst rate changes already acted as a nerf- why also make the gun inconsistent? Precision weapons should be precice.
The Storm rifle should be taken out of the game. Its tier 3. I'm not sure how someone could see its position in this chart and say " this looks good guys"
I assume it's TTK, in which case the obvious answer is to dramatically drop health damage on the SR to push overall TTK up to around the AR max.
And add Plasma Stun.
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Yeah it is TTK. I think the answer is too slow the projectiles WAY down. That way it's actually possible to miss.
Please don't sick them on me. sketch posted this on waypoint!!!
Yeah it is TTK. I think the answer is too slow the projectiles WAY down. That way it's actually possible to miss.
Yeah, the chart is from Waypoint; the text included there with it was:
"This chart above represents all of the perfect kill times as well as the least efficient or suboptimal kill times. Suboptimal is defined by landing every single shot from a weapon but never landing a headshot."
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Figured it was something like that.
Slowing down projectiles is good, but it wouldn't solve the perfect TTK problem, just make landing a perfect TTK harder. Slower projectiles coupled with lower health damage would probably do it.
Im cool with low TTKs, as long as they are hard to come by. Low Min TTK with a high Avg TTK is a sign of a gun with skill gap.
Yeah also if MCC had never come out it would be all the more impressive...wondering who will play this though (perhaps someone who wants all the original playlists)
MCC even with its issues is a much better experience (and will be even more so after 4k patch)
Oh man, I don't think I've ever seen a player who was constantly complaining at their teammates actually perform well. There's a strong correlation with shitty attitude and poor gameplay based on my experience.
I do grab the ball if I think I need to, however, if a teammate is there 9/10 times I'll shoot the ball to tell them to pick it up. It's usually because my teammates are useless at slaying, a recent game I played I had more kills than the rest of my team combined.
I am enjoying Oddball more in H5 than in previous games though because the ball holder can move at base movement speed rather than being slowed down, makes holding the ball more interesting imo.
I also think how much I enjoy holding the ball is very dependent on the map in question. For example I found holding the ball on Riptide or Mercy rather dull because there's not many opportunities for clever movement. Just had an amazing match on Eden where I found holding the ball to really entertaining as there are so many ways to duck and move around.
I'm liking the new weapons, especially the AR. I keep getting a profile sync error, and Waypoint's profile is down too.
Edit: The waypoint profile is back, sweet. It synced up now.
Edit: The waypoint profile is back, sweet. It synced up now.
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You mean you don't like crouching in blue room on riptide for an entire match?
After a number of Halo 5 games I can safely say it's not for me. I've always swung in the direction of vehicular combat and BTB style gameplay and none of the current maps in rotation really fill that void for me. I really am not a fan of running to a base to spawn stuff either. Doesn't sit right with me at all. I prefer the old fight for power or at least both sides getting the same tools to duke it out with. Another thing I have constant trouble with is the aiming. It feels off constantly and like I'm not in full control of where I point the gun. Maybe a good controller settings change could remedy this but I didn't enjoy the game enough to put time into sorting that out.
I decided to jump back into Halo 4 and drown my sorrows with the blood of mongoose splattered enemies instead. I'm really surprised at how well splattering registers on Halo 4 still, especially given the lower player count and how often I'm thrown in with people from other regions.
I decided to jump back into Halo 4 and drown my sorrows with the blood of mongoose splattered enemies instead. I'm really surprised at how well splattering registers on Halo 4 still, especially given the lower player count and how often I'm thrown in with people from other regions.
War zone is no BTB. I love BTB and I don't even touch it in 5. They completely fucked it up. And no, war zone ain't a proper replacement.
Man, I jumped into some free for all games last night after not playing Halo in at least a month and got smashed. Mostly Onyx players but still, feels bad. That used to be my go to game type.
feels very good, not quite PC version good but better than S and stock x1 forge maps especially with what little time i've had feel alot better
played a few games of warzone on the X, settings were wrong at first so I was playing at 1080p... No more aliasing which was great but I wasn't wowed so I checked my settings, switched to 4k and its much better. It's so clean and when you stop. To look at textures they look so much better.
pretty happy with it.
aiming feels better to me although I've been playing a lot of fortnite lately which would impact my judgement as I haven't put any time into H5 lately, but I can tell it feels better
pretty happy with it.
aiming feels better to me although I've been playing a lot of fortnite lately which would impact my judgement as I haven't put any time into H5 lately, but I can tell it feels better
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