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Xbox One Backwards Compatibility |OT| Who wants to pay for remasters?
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I'm off tomorrow so I'm up at 4:39 in the morning here and I'm on the XB1 dash, looking at something to play, randomly, I just go into my games to install and I see this here. Hot damn, I need to finally finish this one day.
Is this true? Any chance London 2012 olympics will get the treatment? What is it about sports games like make them unlikely?
I think Fight Night Champion has a chance because despite the game releasing in 2011 it has not been delisted and is still sold on Xbox digital marketplace.
The licensing issue is it being on the xbox one store. Remember hearing or reading it' because they consider it a different store front and that might cause issues with royalties with the athletes in the game
We shall see because games like NBA Jam On Fire edition have become Backwards compatible.
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I'll do it tonight. I have one last midterm to study for.
February 8th, the day Conviction was added and also the only game announced during that week.
Does the BC emulation require a game's source code for the optimization process? Or if it is just "I need your nod and just the game" situation?
Also since Future Soldier is here... maybe there is hope for Advanced Warfighter?
Also since Future Soldier is here... maybe there is hope for Advanced Warfighter?
The latter, the source code is untouched even for X enhancements.
So they don't even need to look at the source code to understand how certain things work? Just throw the game into the emulator and do adjustments base on debug info?
https://majornelson.com/podcast/584-xbox-one-backward-compatibility-turns-1/
I highly recommend listening to this.
I was talking to a couple of friends who work in the industry about why there isn't a 4K patch for RDR on BC. Their point is Rockstar's project management is probably a mess, it doesn't help that RDR was known for being in dev hell before the benz salvaged it so the code is probably very problematic to handle, and that might prevent MS from working with Rockstar on that. I was skeptical though since I know from multiple sources (MS and DF) that the emulator does not require the source code.
And also reading this: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...x-one-x-back-compat-how-does-it-actually-work
It should be possible yeah. Rockstar are big on back catalogue sales (I mean they even put everything on the PS2 on PS4 program!) so I could totally see it happening to promote RDR2.
There's no way the BC program would have been as effective and easy if they had to delve into the source code for every title, plus it opens a whole new agreement between MS and the developers about closed-source code.
When RDR was made BC its sales shot up a 6000% or so, 4K patch could have a similar effect. It's win-win for Rockstar.
Well, tomorrow is the start of Spring so bring on the bi-weekly hope of more Original Xbox titles.
I feel like I just came back from a coma. I stopped catching up with the BC announcements ages ago only to find out today that almost every single classic I wanted to play, including a large list of SEGA's finest, is available right now.
Welp. Time to buy an X I guess. I doubt I'll be able to hold on past E3. Daytona USA HD here we go (guess I'm buying a Thrustmaster TMX or something similar too!). BC truly is the most underrated, incredible selling point of the platform.
If they can bring OutRun C2C, Sega Rally Revo, Ninja Gaiden II, Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge, Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations, every single thing in my personal wishlist will be BC. And if they release a white X, I'll live my SEGA, SHIRO! Saturn and Dreamcast fantasies.
Welp. Time to buy an X I guess. I doubt I'll be able to hold on past E3. Daytona USA HD here we go (guess I'm buying a Thrustmaster TMX or something similar too!). BC truly is the most underrated, incredible selling point of the platform.
If they can bring OutRun C2C, Sega Rally Revo, Ninja Gaiden II, Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge, Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations, every single thing in my personal wishlist will be BC. And if they release a white X, I'll live my SEGA, SHIRO! Saturn and Dreamcast fantasies.
Maybe but the fact it's only priced at $4.99 gives it a red flag.
No idea. Bear in mind only 11 games thus far have received this treatment.
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Given the game itself is supposed to be spaghetti code and how long it took to come to BC in the first place despite it being tested very early into the program, I would say next to 0.
Never say never, but since X enhancements are rare as it is, I can't imagine a game like RDR being in the rumoured state it is being possible to enhance.
I don't think the delay on a lot of these games being released to Xbox BC is because of testing issues. Seems a lot more like timed marketing strategies.
I think they'll be in the next batch of original XBOX BC titles. We're expecting another one soonish.
I think chances of that happening are fairly high, especially when we get ever closer to RDR2 release date. Rockstar might even be tempted to work with MS in providing any help and assets needed in bringing out a quality 4K patch.
"Preorder RDR2 and play RDR now in 4K, only on Xbox One X". That would be a nice money maker for Rockstar and MS.
RDR was definitely testing issues. It was being tested internally early into the program, so it took around a year or so for it to actually release. It was also made playable for a brief time before it was officially released and IIRC there was a small issue with the game during that time too, can't remember what exactly though, I think it was the dlc not working?
Nowadays that's not so much of an issue because they've worked on the emulator a lot, but in the early days it was. Bill Stillwell has even said some games are extremely hard to get up and running, and the hardest one hadn't been released yet so he can't say which one back in early 16 I think.
How does it work then? I'm believe back when they first announced the enhancement program, they even said only certain games could be enhanced based off how they were coded.
It's clearly not a flick of the switch anyways, or there'd be more than 11 games.
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DLC not working fro some people and extremely long loading times IIRC.
With Sea of Thieves launching today I don't expect any BC announcement. We'll probably get it on Thursday this week if we get one at all.
Actually, my understanding is that for the 4K-enhanced 360 games, how consistently LoD/shadowmaps/alphas were categorized in the engine partly determines which are good candidates to bother with. They're not changing code on the game side, but the better certain categories of data can be seen by the emulator, the better those quality changes can be implemented. Most (if not all?) of the games they released aren't just raw resolution bumps, there's at least some LoD/geometry culling changes (i.e., Witcher 2), and higher-quality shadow-map calls further out (Assassins Creed 1).
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