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Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2018 (Mar 19 - Mar 25)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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What do you expect for a musou game that was already released twice on two platforms....Both console and portable even!
Does the Japanese version have english? If so bargain imports here we come!
December seems to be locked if you ask me here Chris. Switch Holiday push is going to be crazy strong. Unless, Smash and Animal Crossing drop and kinda killed Kirby legs there.
Sucks to see NNK and Valkyria 4 do poorly . I'm not optimistic they are going to do well in the West either.
It's always considered one of the classic big Nintendo franchises there. Sells a lot of merch too.
The interesting thing is the sell-through. Switch version is over 80%, and it had stock problems on some stores. While the PS4 and PSV versions still sit with almost half of the copies unsold.
Yeah Kirby merch is right up there with Pokemon and Splatoon.
It is Kirby lol. Why so surprising? For some children who can't buy Star Allies yet, Kirby battle royale will satisfy their thirst.^_^
M+R will keep going i feel. It will be a good title for Obon for sure too.
Do you Switch version to had some legs there Hiska? or it will be like Girl und Panzer where there is no huge restock coming for the title?
Why look so far, at Obon, golden week is upon us soon!
Personally I am skeptical, it is unusual for an "anime game" to have very good legs (Xenoverse is a big exception to the rule)
I think that if the third season of the Anime was starting on April, it could have showed pretty good legs (all versions, but probably Switch the best of them).
Being the third season on July, it's a missed oportunity. I'm not sure if legs will last so long (3 months to go), and if so, they might be minimal by that time, just in the Top 50.
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Sammy intensifies. Dat Swimsuit Tharja too will make sure FEW to return to greatness lol.
GW nowadays is Lame Week lol. Not so much thing happen anymore.^_^
I think, AoT2 on Switch can probably had some better legs on the virtue that AoT is still a huge mainstream IP i think? Not on the level of Xenoverse at all though.
It will also depend on 3rd season reception there.
The first 12 episode of 3rd Season is going to harsh as that is the low part of AoT.
The cap on the Switch's initial shipment is about 46k. It should exhaust that supply by next week's chart.
What do retailers do when one version of the game sells out and the others hit the bomba bins?
I think the the worse problem is figuring out how much demand is needed before restocking
Users Predictions: 4 Million Switch in Japan
Source: gamedatalibrary
GBA: 41 weeks
3DS: 44 weeks
NDS: 54 weeks
WII: 54 weeks
NSW: 56 weeks
PS2: 66 weeks
GBC: 81 weeks
PSP: 94 weeks
PS1: 107 weeks
PS4: 151 weeks
PS3: 163 weeks
N64: 182 weeks
PSV: 185 weeks
NGC: 259 weeks
Switch: 56 weeks, 4.037.144
CONGRATULATIONS LOCK (no rectified winner) and DarkDetective (rectified winner)!
LOCK: 54 weeks - 4.040.000
DarkDetective: 49 weeks - 4.020.000 (rectified: 57 weeks - 4.025.000)
USERS PREDICTIONS (weeks - numbers)
Arthoneceron: 51 weeks - 4.075.000
CaviarMeths: 54 weeks - 4.027.720
CSSD: 52 weeks - 4.016.000
DarkDetective: 49 weeks - 4.020.000 (rectified: 57 weeks - 4.025.000)
Datajoy: 51 weeks - 4.032.700
Elfteiroh: 53 weeks - 4.032.558
Grads: 48 weeks - 4.020.000
James: 47 weeks - 4.058.000 (rectified: 49 weeks - 4.075.000)
Limabean01: 52 weeks - 4.025.000
LOCK: 54 weeks - 4.040.000
Mr. Pointy: 49 weeks - 4.010.000
Nemesis162: 52 weeks - 4.016.000
Nintendojitsu: 50 weeks - 4.000.000
Nitejohn: 50 weeks - 4.100.000
Piston: 53 weeks - 4.014.414
RailWays: 50 weeks - 4.025.000
silpheed-mcd's wife: 48 weeks - 4.003.330
skullwaker: 50 weeks - 4.030.000
Squiddo: 50 weeks - 4.075.000
Tribal_Cult: 60 weeks - 4.050.000
Zedark: 48 weeks - 4.058.000
Source: gamedatalibrary
GBA: 41 weeks
3DS: 44 weeks
NDS: 54 weeks
WII: 54 weeks
NSW: 56 weeks
PS2: 66 weeks
GBC: 81 weeks
PSP: 94 weeks
PS1: 107 weeks
PS4: 151 weeks
PS3: 163 weeks
N64: 182 weeks
PSV: 185 weeks
NGC: 259 weeks
Switch: 56 weeks, 4.037.144
CONGRATULATIONS LOCK (no rectified winner) and DarkDetective (rectified winner)!
LOCK: 54 weeks - 4.040.000
DarkDetective: 49 weeks - 4.020.000 (rectified: 57 weeks - 4.025.000)
USERS PREDICTIONS (weeks - numbers)
Arthoneceron: 51 weeks - 4.075.000
CaviarMeths: 54 weeks - 4.027.720
CSSD: 52 weeks - 4.016.000
DarkDetective: 49 weeks - 4.020.000 (rectified: 57 weeks - 4.025.000)
Datajoy: 51 weeks - 4.032.700
Elfteiroh: 53 weeks - 4.032.558
Grads: 48 weeks - 4.020.000
James: 47 weeks - 4.058.000 (rectified: 49 weeks - 4.075.000)
Limabean01: 52 weeks - 4.025.000
LOCK: 54 weeks - 4.040.000
Mr. Pointy: 49 weeks - 4.010.000
Nemesis162: 52 weeks - 4.016.000
Nintendojitsu: 50 weeks - 4.000.000
Nitejohn: 50 weeks - 4.100.000
Piston: 53 weeks - 4.014.414
RailWays: 50 weeks - 4.025.000
silpheed-mcd's wife: 48 weeks - 4.003.330
skullwaker: 50 weeks - 4.030.000
Squiddo: 50 weeks - 4.075.000
Tribal_Cult: 60 weeks - 4.050.000
Zedark: 48 weeks - 4.058.000
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I'm also curious, it's kind of a conundrum - if you put some versions of a game in the bomba bin, logically it should affect the sales of the non discounted version.
We have seen Switch games perform well despite being a late port though, while other versions of same game were highly discounted - did that occur in Japan as well?
I think Zelda Musou is another example of there being a portable version already offered before, and there's no "game X can now be played portable!" factor to wow consumers.
This seemed to be the case also with DQB1, and it'll also be interesting to see how Ys8 fares in that regard.
This seemed to be the case also with DQB1, and it'll also be interesting to see how Ys8 fares in that regard.
Such high sales are surprising given the limited Switch installed base and the fact that Switch audience tends more towards young adults rather than kids. The game release window is clever as Golden Week is approaching. It will be a big seller in April-May.
We can say Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon surpassed many expectations. Before its release, the higher threshold for many was 2m, while it was able to go well above. With 3DS dire release schedule it can keep selling well, better (in relative terms) than Sun/Moon back then.
Target audience is young female---quite outside Switch current audience. On 3DS, the better debut of the franchise was at 30k. The game can have some legs, as Sumikko Gurashi.
It's a very good sign if some multi-platform games on Switch start outselling PS4 counterparts. Attack on Titan didn't do really well overall but still it seems the Switch version can drive some sales.
What's quite amazing about the legs of these games is the fact that they don't belong to genre known to be leggy. Fighting games are pretty frontloaded. ARMS at 400k is quite surprising after its launch, while Zelda dropped below 10k for months last year.
And people were wondering why FuRyu keeps releasing Doraemon games ;) these are leggy and sell well over time.
It's also a porting of a game that originally sold 150k units. It didn't seem Hyrule Warriors was constrained much by Wii U userbase. The game is simply not that appealing overall to Japanese gamers. The Switch version can reach 50-60k when it's all said and done which is an ok result. In the West, the game might perform a little bit better.
Yeah there's obviously an upper limit to how well Musou games can sell especially when the overall brand is facing serious fatigue.
It's just that I feel Zelda Musou having not even a good selling point, missing the "hey look it's finally on portable!", just makes the matters that much worse.
Given the context, reaching 50k should probably be considered decent enough sales I guess.
I think it Hyrule Musou DX should be looked as an up port from the 3ds one instead of a port of the wii u version
I think the bigger point of contention is that the game already had a port on a successful handheld with HW Legends. HWDE exists primarily for the west as far as I can tell, considering the original version did quite well here despite being on the Wii U.
Users Predictions: 5 Million Switch in Japan
Source: gamedatalibrary
3DS: 52 weeks
GBA: 54 weeks
NDS: 56 weeks
WII: 60 weeks
PS2: 79 weeks
PS1: 114 weeks
GBC: 114 weeks
PSP: 117 weeks
PS3: 180 weeks
PS4: 181 weeks
PSV: 234 weeks
Switch?
USERS PREDICTIONS (weeks - numbers)
Andri: 72 weeks -5.000.001
Arthoneceron: 77 weeks - 5.003.000
Astrogamer: 69 weeks - 5.006.444
Cartridge Games: 72 weeks - 5.015.00
CaviarMeths: 74 weeks - 5.005.005
ccc: 74 weeks - 5.018.000
Cefalopop: 70 weeks - 5.011.005
DarkDetective: 72 weeks - 5.020.000
FormatCompatible: 78 weeks - 5.015.000
Heartskips: 79 weeks - 5.001.200
Joseki: 74 weeks - 5.001.000
Lichtsang: 73 weeks - 5.010.000
Limabean01: 77 weeks - 5.030.000
LOCK: 76 weeks - 5.040.000
Monolithsoft: 71 weeks : 5 035 000
Mr.Pointy: 74 weeks - 5,030,000
Nemesis162: 65 weeks - 5.015.000
Nintendojitsu: 69 weeks - 5.007.045
Nocturnal: 69 weeks - 5.006.969
Pooroomoo: 78 weeks - 5.033.133
RailWays: 77 weeks - 5.015.000
skullwaker: 75 weeks - 5.020.000
Welfare: 78 weeks - 5.029.000
Zedark: 73 weeks - 5.020.000
Source: gamedatalibrary
3DS: 52 weeks
GBA: 54 weeks
NDS: 56 weeks
WII: 60 weeks
PS2: 79 weeks
PS1: 114 weeks
GBC: 114 weeks
PSP: 117 weeks
PS3: 180 weeks
PS4: 181 weeks
PSV: 234 weeks
Switch?
USERS PREDICTIONS (weeks - numbers)
Andri: 72 weeks -5.000.001
Arthoneceron: 77 weeks - 5.003.000
Astrogamer: 69 weeks - 5.006.444
Cartridge Games: 72 weeks - 5.015.00
CaviarMeths: 74 weeks - 5.005.005
ccc: 74 weeks - 5.018.000
Cefalopop: 70 weeks - 5.011.005
DarkDetective: 72 weeks - 5.020.000
FormatCompatible: 78 weeks - 5.015.000
Heartskips: 79 weeks - 5.001.200
Joseki: 74 weeks - 5.001.000
Lichtsang: 73 weeks - 5.010.000
Limabean01: 77 weeks - 5.030.000
LOCK: 76 weeks - 5.040.000
Monolithsoft: 71 weeks : 5 035 000
Mr.Pointy: 74 weeks - 5,030,000
Nemesis162: 65 weeks - 5.015.000
Nintendojitsu: 69 weeks - 5.007.045
Nocturnal: 69 weeks - 5.006.969
Pooroomoo: 78 weeks - 5.033.133
RailWays: 77 weeks - 5.015.000
skullwaker: 75 weeks - 5.020.000
Welfare: 78 weeks - 5.029.000
Zedark: 73 weeks - 5.020.000
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Users Predictions: 5 Million Switch in Japan
Source: gamedatalibrary
3DS: 52 weeks
GBA: 54 weeks
NDS: 56 weeks
WII: 60 weeks
PS2: 79 weeks
PS1: 114 weeks
GBC: 114 weeks
PSP: 117 weeks
PS3: 180 weeks
PS4: 181 weeks
PSV: 234 weeks
Switch?
I'll go with 72 weeks.
Let's what events are there in the next 20 or so weeks? We have Labo release, Golden Week, and besides that only smaller releases, right? As such, I don't think we will see average sales being much higher than 50k.
56.
Oh right. Actually going to change it to:
75 weeks - 5.020.000
I think the reason for the long delay isn't for technical reasons but because there's some sort of temporary exclusive deal with Sony preventing it to be released for Switch. This can explain why there's no 3DS version for the west as well.
Users Predictions: 5 Million Switch in Japan
Source: gamedatalibrary
3DS: 52 weeks
GBA: 54 weeks
NDS: 56 weeks
WII: 60 weeks
PS2: 79 weeks
PS1: 114 weeks
GBC: 114 weeks
PSP: 117 weeks
PS3: 180 weeks
PS4: 181 weeks
PSV: 234 weeks
Switch?
USERS PREDICTIONS (weeks - numbers)
skullwaker: 75 weeks - 5.020.000
73 weeks - 5.010.000
Edit: If Labo really turns out to be a big, hardware moving, phenomenon, the Switch will reach those numbers much sooner of course. I'm really looking forward to the end of April.
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But if that was truly the case as I seen some people suggesting, would S-E even be talking about the Switch version at all on the press release for the localization?
The lack of release for the 3ds on the west don't seem to come from a deal so much as general apathy towards that version on the part of the us branch of S-E just like they didn't gave to much attention to prior DQ on the system. Personally I really don't see where this idea of a deal comes from.
dang, switch is pretty behind all the big hitters.
maybe it'll start catching up soon.
Users Predictions: 5 Million Switch in Japan
Source: gamedatalibrary
3DS: 52 weeks
GBA: 54 weeks
NDS: 56 weeks
WII: 60 weeks
PS2: 79 weeks
PS1: 114 weeks
GBC: 114 weeks
PSP: 117 weeks
PS3: 180 weeks
PS4: 181 weeks
PSV: 234 weeks
Switch?
USERS PREDICTIONS (weeks - numbers)
Lichtsang: 73 weeks - 5.010.000
skullwaker: 75 weeks - 5.020.000
65 weeks - 5.015.000
Most likely, yes. Sony was heavily involved in marketing DQ games and DQ11 in Japan after all. Most 3rd parties that have such deals also don't go around telling everyone that they are sell-outs.
But anyway, before the market isn't flooded and filled to the brim with used copies it just doesn't make too much sense to launch the Switch version. It's such a brillant strategy that it has to be applied worldwide.
Now seriously, they managed to release two different DQ 11 games at the same time in Japan, that there'll be a Switch version was planned years ago and not a change of heart after they saw Switchs success, like it clearly was in Valkyria Chronicles 4s case, which will launch this year.
I will go with 78 - 5.015.000Users Predictions: 5 Million Switch in Japan
Source: gamedatalibrary
3DS: 52 weeks
GBA: 54 weeks
NDS: 56 weeks
WII: 60 weeks
PS2: 79 weeks
PS1: 114 weeks
GBC: 114 weeks
PSP: 117 weeks
PS3: 180 weeks
PS4: 181 weeks
PSV: 234 weeks
Switch?
USERS PREDICTIONS (weeks - numbers)
Lichtsang: 73 weeks - 5.010.000
skullwaker: 75 weeks - 5.020.000
I think Fukuzatsu actually saw the switch version of Nobunaga's ambition and the new Atelier still at full prices while their playstation counterparts were heavily discounted