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kristoffer

Banned
Oct 23, 2017
2,048


Sinclair media owns a lot of these local news stations in the US and forces them to air propagandistic material. It's annoyed me for a while. You guys have seen this stuff, right?

 
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Zen

The Wise Ones
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Nov 1, 2017
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Sinclair media should probably have more of a spotlight put on it. Wouldn't be surprised if it funded Trump's campaign.
 

Sulik2

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,168
Sinclair is going to quietly replace Fox News as the most dangerous aspect of the GOP propaganda machine and the FCC should have never allowed it to happen except they are corrupt as well. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no fixing the USA without figuring out a way to tackle the propaganda issues in this country first.
 

Kyougar

Cute Animal Whisperer
Member
Nov 3, 2017
9,361
Is it Trump
Or is it more like that Trump's behavior lets one finally see the democratic deficiencies of the US?

I don't see how a functioning democracy would let a clown like Trump get away with treason, corruption, incompetence, burning bridges with allies, etc.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,866
Is it Trump
Or is it more like that Trump's behavior lets one finally see the democratic deficiencies of the US?

I don't see how a functioning democracy would let a clown like Trump get away with treason, corruption, incompetence, burning bridges with allies, etc.

It's exposed the fact that our government is built on a system of gentlemen's agreements and "no sane person would ever do that" clauses. Unfortunately, Trump is neither a sane person nor a gentleman.
 

I Don't Like

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Dec 11, 2017
14,920
Conservatives at work. This is why some people on this board constantly peddling the "Let's not vilify and 'otherize' or we're just as bad as them" need to shut the fuck up.
 
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kristoffer

kristoffer

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Oct 23, 2017
2,048
It's exposed the fact that our government is built on a system of gentlemen's agreements and "no sane person would ever do that" clauses.
Yeah, just look at this segment from the 32nd Federalist Paper on this very subject:
There is, undoubtedly, a concern amongst the People that such a Federal Government is merely a delusion constructed by civil agreements between the most gentlemanly of our countrymen. We admit this postulation is meritable. However, this shared terror need not be entertained, and no checks and balances need be instituted in the consitutional documents, for only a madman of true insanity would abuse its many failings.
And then the rest of the papers are, like, Garfield comics or something.
 

nemoral

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Oct 25, 2017
2,081
Fiddler's Green
This must be that insidious liberal bias I'm always hearing about. I mean, they run Fox, the highest rated cable channel, and they run Sinclair, who's buying up all the TV channels. Is it any wonder we're all brainwashed by these liberal media mavens?
 

LukeOP

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Oct 27, 2017
4,749
The United States was never a democracy. It's a republic designed to keep the rich white upper class in power.
 

Weegian

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,732
If any of those journalists had a shred of integrity, they would have refused to read the statement.
 

Dehnus

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Oct 30, 2017
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The United States was never a democracy. It's a republic designed to keep the rich white upper class in power.
I got news for you, so is every western democracy, they just scaled it down a bit when we still had unions, communist parties and angry white workers. Now that the latter were split in half with NIMBYs and they don't care about the non white workers (or minorities in general for that matter), they are slowly going back to how it was during the industrial revolution.

"MORE!?!" they answered to the question of you wishing a bit more food. After all the poor are content to fight each other.

For instance did you know that on Yougov in the UK? They are now trying to see if people are okay with taking voting rights away from those that get wellfare. It's only a poll question, but you know those Tories are salivating with that idea.
 
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kristoffer

kristoffer

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Oct 23, 2017
2,048
This must be that insidious liberal bias I'm always hearing about. I mean, they run Fox, the highest rated cable channel, and they run Sinclair, who's buying up all the TV channels. Is it any wonder we're all brainwashed by these liberal media mavens?
Everytime PBS airs Frontline I think to myself, "Frontline of... what?!" But we all know the answer.
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Oct 27, 2017
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Sinclair is going to quietly replace Fox News as the most dangerous aspect of the GOP propaganda machine and the FCC should have never allowed it to happen except they are corrupt as well. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no fixing the USA without figuring out a way to tackle the propaganda issues in this country first.

I think they already are. Even if you agree with them, everyone knows Fox News is biased voice for the right. People don't know Sinclair. They think local news is just the pov of their local news team.
 

gozu

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Oct 27, 2017
10,360
America


Sinclair media owns a lot of these local news stations in the US and forces them to air propagandistic material. It's annoyed me for a while. You guys have seen this stuff, right?


The title should state this is about the Sinclair group. It's not very descriptive right now :p

Democracy is not a good system of government but it appears to be the only way to avoid slavery of the populace.

People are too easily manipulated by the vile and clever and humans make too many gut decisions for democracy to work the way it should: Truly for the good of all, rather than being constantly manipulated by different elites seeking to enrich themselves at the expense of their brethren and sisterethren.
 

BernardoOne

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Oct 25, 2017
10,289
Is it Trump
Or is it more like that Trump's behavior lets one finally see the democratic deficiencies of the US?

I don't see how a functioning democracy would let a clown like Trump get away with treason, corruption, incompetence, burning bridges with allies, etc.
US isn't a democracy and it sure as well wasn't a democracy even before Trump. It's a oligarchy, where corporations are the ones making the laws, where you are told "everyone is equal" and then have election systems where you have a differently weighed vote depending on where you happen to live, where voter supression and gerrymandering are completely legal, where you can lose your right to vote if you happen to ever go to prison, despite the fact of all the gross mass incarceration and heavy racial bias in the judicial system. A country where slavery continues to exist to this day.
The US isn't a democracy and you should laugh in the face of anyone who brags about all the "freedom" there is in the US.
 

Gwenpoolshark

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Jan 5, 2018
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The Pool


Ok so at this point we can actively see how this corporation with a vested interest in the presidency and the far right establishment is literally, as in word for word, shaping the public discourse around verifiable truths and accurate journalism at a far more atomic level than any national News outlet. Trumpism has mostly operated at a level of national attention, since that's clearly all that Trump cares about personally, but holy shit is this lower-level manipulation concerning.

Sinclair is now implementing "Mandated Statements" nationwide, not just opinion segments from that one lunatic John Oliver pointed out. They are now bodyjacking your local anchors and turning them into meat puppets.

The Salt Lake Tribune
Listening to Channel 2 anchors Mark Koelbel and Shauna Lake, reading from the script, express concern "about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one-sided news stories plaguing our country" serves to remind viewers that KUTV's owner has a long history of one-sided news coverage to promote its right-wing agenda.

Penn Live
Anchors at Sinclair Broadcast Group stations were forced to read from the same script decrying "fake stories" and "biased reporting" in the last week.

Philly.com reports the script was given to anchors across the country, and echoed a statement made by Scott Livingston, vice president of news at Sinclair.

The Chicago Tribune
Sinclair Broadcast Group is selling WGN-TV to a Maryland auto dealer but would remain in control of the station in what critics say is a bid to skirt ownership limits and win federal regulatory approval for its proposed $3.9 billion acquisition of Tribune Media.

That means "Terrorism Alert Desk" and other programming staples of politically conservative Sinclair may yet be headed to Chicago's airwaves.

Imagine for a minute that you're the average Fox News Viewer: 68, white, hates Obama. Loves Trump. You're tired of being told that you're biased or bigoted or idiotic or the many other things you clearly are, and you stay inside watching Television all day.

You are also far more likely to be watching copious amounts of daytime News reporting from local channels, because Young people don't do that shit.

Sinclair Broadcasting Group is essentially self-starting a local media counterinsurgency to make the already brainwashed feel like they have a second source. They're diffuse, unaccountable, highly unregulated, and they carry the veneer of the anchors and TV personas that Peepaw and Meemaw trust. And unlike Fox News, they'll be pretty much immune from scandal since they don't have any singular personalities to represent the brand.

This is a vast amorphous attack on the public mind from all fronts. It may not scare many internet-dwellers, but it should.

 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
14,995
It's rather disgusting and disingenuous... even most of fox news has to be under the disclaimers of "opinion" or "entertainment" shows...
 

scitek

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,078
Yeah, fuck Sinclair. I worked for them for a little over a year, and left just as they were starting to ramp up this nonsense. In addition to peddling this trash, they also pay well below market-average wages, and see their employees as expendable drones. Not a good company.

EDIT: The station I worked for also hired a girl from RT, but she was anything but a Trump supporter.
 

Gwenpoolshark

Member
Jan 5, 2018
4,109
The Pool
Yeah, fuck Sinclair. I worked for them for a little over a year, and left just as they were starting to ramp up this nonsense. In addition to peddling this trash, they also pay well below market-average wages, and see their employees as expendable drones. Not a good company.

Woah really? Anything specific you can share? I have about a billion questions.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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My mom watches the local Fox affiliate that's a Sinclair station because they're the only ten o'clock news in our area. There have been rumors of lots of on air talent leaving if the local CBS affiliate which is currently Tribune owned gets bought by Sinclair.

It's a real shitshow, but I'd definitely not want to be one of those people having to read that script.
 

scitek

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,078
Woah really? Anything specific you can share? I have about a billion questions.

Not really, they're just a biased corporation who cuts costs however and wherever they can. I'm not a journalist, so I can only imagine how degrading and frustrating it is when they're forced to do things like this.

Sinclair tends to have the worst reputation in the business -- I know people at Q13 in Seattle are excited they won't be taken over by Sinclair, and will likely end up being owned by FOX. Several other companies are frowned upon, too, but for different reasons.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The question is when regulating this, will people on the left realise it's necessary or will there be another eternal slippery slope debate?