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Fuzzy

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Is Riverdale season 2 good? I'm waiting for it to reach Netflix.
Short answer, no.

Not even a year later and he wants out of the ABC deal?

People are so money hungry.
Or more likely he's unhappy over things like this.

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kevin1025

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Sounds like a a couple of series not making it past the pilot or even to the pilot phase, along with the Black-ish episode, may be his point to look elsewhere. I wonder if the Toni Collette drama was the toughest one, since it's mentioned as a passion project. Though one year into a four year deal, that may be more difficult than Shonda leaving with one year left.
 

Chitown B

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Roseanne had a 25% higher total viewership than NCIS and a 300% higher demo rating. Heck, The Middle had a 69% higher demo rating than NCIS. It seems the king is finally slain.

NCIS is still on? humph.

That is pretty odd but since ABC already renewed Roseanne for next year, I imagine they have bigger plans for their schedule. It is also pretty funny that ABC's "dominant" sitcom night is now Tuesdays. Wednesdays look bleak by comparison.

If I had to wildly speculate, I would say ABC might be shopping another revival to pair with it.
 

firehawk12

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I didn't take it as a pot shot. I took it as them not "othering" the shows.
I think Black-ish is still unapologetically Black, but the point is probably that it doesn't matter, because families are just families.
Roseanne had a 25% higher total viewership than NCIS and a 300% higher demo rating. Heck, The Middle had a 69% higher demo rating than NCIS. It seems the king is finally slain.
Never bet against old people!
 

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It's interesting that they're trying to poach so many people from broadcast - goin for that mass appeal~
Like the THR article says, I'd be Barris is the first to jump ship. The shelving of a "Black-ish" episode and his pilot losing Baldwin are one thing, but ABC then giving a platform to a known anti-semite, Trump-loving, alt-righter must have killed any interest he had in continuing on with ABC Studios. I'd say Levitan is a stretch too far considering he seems to thrive in the broadcast TV model a la Chuck Lorre. I'd say Seth McFarlane is probably going to jump ship sooner rather than later considering his lack of new animated series, the now-non-existant film career, and the cost v. the audience of "The Orwell".
 

metalslimer

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I think Black-ish is still unapologetically Black, but the point is probably that it doesn't matter, because families are just families.

Never bet against old people!

Except I think that's not really true at all. The experiences of a the typical black/Asian family are certainly different than that of a middle class white family. It would be like if someone commented that people are people when being criticized for the lack of diversity in Hollywood.


Anyway it's hard for me to ever give that show the benefit of the doubt despite who's writing it
 

firehawk12

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Except I think that's not really true at all. The experiences of a the typical black/Asian family are certainly different than that of a middle class white family. It would be like if someone commented that people are people when being criticized for the lack of diversity in Hollywood.
With Blackish I agree, but with FoB they might as well be any other family because of how generic their experience is.

I said this a year or so ago, but we live in an age where a show like Doctor Ken has come and went and no one gave a shit. There was no outcry from the Asian-American community about ABC killing an Asian sitcom, no hot takes from either the critic community or the blogosphere. We're sort of living in an age where it just doesn't matter anymore because they experiences are generic enough that anyone can watch them.

It's probably why the Carmichael Show was never really a hit. It had a sharper edge than Black-ish (and it was more 80s too in terms of just having a family sit around and talk for 20 minutes), so people liked it but no one really championed it.
 

RatskyWatsky

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Also, a couple of interesting tidbits:

Shonda Rhimes' blockbuster [deal]— the headlines screamed "$100 million," but that's said to be just the floor.

So Shonda's deal was for a minimum of $100 million - she could potentially make a whole lot more.

Amazon ponied up $250 million for the rights to make a Lord of the Rings prequel and Apple pledged nearly the same for 20 episodes of a drama series starring Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon.

Apple's two-season Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston series cost nearly $250 million?! That's like $120 million per season for a show set in the world of morning news! (and I'm sure a significant portion of that is going toward the actresses' salaries, but still!)

Also, THR needs to fire their photographer(s)

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Apple's two-season Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston series cost nearly $250 million?! That's like $120 million per season for a show set in the world of morning news! (and I'm sure a significant portion of that is going toward the actresses' salaries, but still!)
why are they forking over this much money for these shows, I cant imagine people are truly making a financial contribution to these series, I mean, i dont think the normal person is buying merchandise, paying 4.99 for a download to own episode, or etc?
 

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why are they forking over this much money for these shows, I cant imagine people are truly making a financial contribution to these series, I mean, i dont think the normal person is buying merchandise, paying 4.99 for a download to own episode, or etc?
The point isn't merchandise, it's subscriptions.

Apple doesn't want you jumping ship to Spotify or Netflix or whomever. They want you to be an Apple Media subscriber till the day you die, so they can generate more money than what Apple Music makes for them. The name of the game is subscriptions, which means content is king. They who generate the most compelling content are they who end up controlling the entire landscape of media. Apple's in a good place to make such outlandish deals because the hardware side of the company mints money. They have enough in their coffers to make deals like this, something that Netflix doesn't have and Disney & Amazon do. Disney's streaming service isn't going to have R-rated content, which means Apple, Netflix, and Amazon are all competing for the prestige dramedy which means pulling out the big bucks for things like this.

Netflix shareholders know that which is why their stock keeps rising despite their increasing debt, because its now an arms race to see how many creatives one can secure before shit hits the fan. Amazon's still reforming after Roy Price's shit, Disney's still getting ready to launch, Hulu is a shitshow due to the multiple conglomerates that own a share of it, and Apple's new to Hollywood. This isn't even to mention the culture clash between Hollywod and Silicon Valley Netflix, as of now, is the most secure place to be for the burgeoning creative, but now that Jen Salke heads up Amazon and once Apple and co. get used to Hollywood, then you'll see a dynamic similar to broadcast emerge.
 

Linkura

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Also, a couple of interesting tidbits:



So Shonda's deal was for a minimum of $100 million - she could potentially make a whole lot more.



Apple's two-season Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston series cost nearly $250 million?! That's like $120 million per season for a show set in the world of morning news! (and I'm sure a significant portion of that is going toward the actresses' salaries, but still!)

Also, THR needs to fire their photographer(s)

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Imagine paying someone for that picture.

A shitload of amateur, starving photographers should be pissed.
 
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Looks like the Monica Lewinsky/Clinton scandal season of American Crime Story is being scrapped. They're moving forward on the Katrina story for the next season.

http://www.tvguide.com/news/ryan-murphy-monica-lewinsky-american-crime-story/
On a surprisingly related note:
History Scraps Bill Clinton Impeachment Drama Series 'The Breach'
History has abandoned its planned scripted drama series from R.J. Cutler based on the Bill Clinton impeachment. The Breach: Inside the Impeachment of Bill Clinton was greenlighted by History in September as a six-part scripted drama series based on Peter Baker's bestseller The Breach: Inside the Impeachment and Trial of William Jefferson Clinton. Over the past few months, the producers made several offers to A-list actors for the leads, but no one had been cast.
I'm almost starting to believe in the Killary Clinton conspiracy theories, she's murdered two shows!
Also, THR needs to pay so much more money to their photographer(s)

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Fixed that for you. I'm going to frame that photo, it brings me so much joy.
 

firehawk12

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All those Black Mirror fans and no one is watching Cunk on Britain. I really feel like a hipster fanboy right now. lol
 

Pixieking

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Looks like the Monica Lewinsky/Clinton scandal season of American Crime Story is being scrapped. They're moving forward on the Katrina story for the next season.

(Warning: there's an autoplay video!)

http://www.tvguide.com/news/ryan-murphy-monica-lewinsky-american-crime-story/

That's good - not only was the Lewinsky affair close to the real start to the partisan politics that we now have - and thus heavily biased - but Lewinsky has done a lot to move away from just being "that woman", including giving anti-bullying talks. Be sad to see her become known again just for that.
 

RatskyWatsky

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You left out this important bit!

The Breach was supposed to be the first installment in The Commanders anthology series that dramatizes "pivotal moments in U.S. history that defined the legacy of the men who served as Presidents of the United States — from the first one, George Washington, to No. 42, Bill Clinton." The other limited series in the franchise, about such U.S. presidents as Ronald Reagan, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt and Thomas Jefferson, remain in development.

Fixed that for you. I'm going to frame that photo, it brings me so much joy.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same photographer that took all those pictures of Nic Pizzolatto staring at walls in that abandoned warehouse.
 

RatskyWatsky

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The Fox International / EPIX series 'Deep State' starring Mark Strong has been renewed for a second season ahead of its series premiere tomorrow.
 
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'Killing Eve' Renewed For Second Season By BBC America
Just ahead of its Sunday premiere, BBC America has given an early second season renewal to its critically praised drama series Killing Eve, from Fleabag creator Phoebe Waller-Bridge.
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"The early response to Killing Eve has been incredible – for that reason, as well as the fact that we wholeheartedly love this original, funny, thrillingly entertaining series, we are delighted to move ahead with a second season before we even premiere."
This does nothing to dampen my hype.
 

TheBeardedOne

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It has no focus, unlike S1. Instead it's like several different boring stories going on at once.

This is one of its biggest issues. The characters are also poorly written, and their motivations are strange beyond words. None are likeable now, and the show keeps spinning its tires with silly plots and underwhelming big reveals.

I mean, it's still somewhat enjoyable, but it's really turned into a soap opera.
 

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http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/cw-kristin-kreuk-burden-of-proof-1202744395/

The CW has acquired Canadian legal drama "Burden of Proof" to add to its summer original-programming slate.

"Burden of Proof" stars Kristin Kreuk, a veteran of CW series "Smallville" and "Beauty & the Beast." She plays a big-city lawyer who returns to her hometown to take on what she thinks is a simple case, only to find herself in a fight for justice for a group of sick girls. The series also stars Peter Mooney ("Rookie Blue"), Alex Carter ("NCIS"), Benjamin Ayres ("Saving Hope"), Nicola Correia-Damude ("Shadowhunters: The Mortal Instruments"), Meegwun Fairbrother ("Hemlock Grove"), and Star Slade.
 

Fuzzy

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I'm a horrible Canadian because I almost never watch any of the Canadian shows, this one included.
 

TheBeardedOne

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I'm a horrible Canadian because I almost never watch any of the Canadian shows, this one included.

Atone by watching Cardinal. It's great.

I tried Bellevue, but it was weird and didn't do a lot for me. Maybe I'll give it a second chance sometime, since it seems to have blown up some and gotten into the US market.

My family has always watched Heartland and it's a quality show, but not exactly for me.
 

Fuzzy

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I think the last Canadian show I watched was Rookie Blue and that thing pissed me off with the geographically warped version of Toronto.
 

ZeroX

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She'll never escape that network

Mark my words she'll be playing a mom in a CW (or whatever Netflix hybrid it's evolved into) teen drama by the end of the 2020s
 

Fuzzy

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She'll never escape that network

Mark my words she'll be playing a mom in a CW (or whatever Netflix hybrid it's evolved into) teen drama by the end of the 2020s
I really hope she's telling the truth about not being in the inner circle of that sex slave cult and never having anything to do with that side of it before leaving.
 

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TV's First $300M Man: The Wild and Weepy Backstory of Ryan Murphy's Blockbuster Netflix Deal

It's a good look at what went on for Netflix to get Murphy on board. But what I find more interesting are the people Netflix is targeting:
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Barris, for sure, seems like a lock because of the success of "Girls' Trip" and "Ride Along."
I hope Netflix also targets Ron D Moore (yeah I know he is busy with Outlander), and that eventually they get to make a cosmic horror anthology or something.

I'd kill to see R D Moore tackle some Lovecraftian stuff with R rating...
 

Blade24070

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Wait theres gonna be a Jennifer Aniston and Reese show? HYPED the next Big Little Lies is coming (alongside Big Little lies S2).
 

firehawk12

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Atone by watching Cardinal. It's great.

I tried Bellevue, but it was weird and didn't do a lot for me. Maybe I'll give it a second chance sometime, since it seems to have blown up some and gotten into the US market.

My family has always watched Heartland and it's a quality show, but not exactly for me.
The Canadian crime shows feel strange to me because they're like the Nordic dramas twice removed - they're copying the American shows that are copying the British ones that are copying the Nordic ones.
 
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