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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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I'll be there!
Just had the most adorable rage add. "Wow can't play anything with cubelock and roguebane! Go play a netrunner deck!" And then they deleted me lol.
but... it's terrible, anything that gives random legendaries is only a meme tier card, that card is exactly another malchezaar.
Malchezaar might have been played occasionally if you could control when he adds the legends to your deck.
that is entirely untrue. The original Elise was used in control warrior (among other decks) to turn dead cards into cards that are not dead. It was a card for the control mirrors.
I dont think Liam is good, because if you're playing a control mirror the geist probability is high and then you're left with 1 drop minions? what 1-drops do you run that arent relevant in the control mirror? mistress of mixtures and divine protector?
I don't think it is a coincidence that we have seen a few interesting/potentially good cards that have negative synergy with class-specific recruit cards. They know these cards are potentially OP, so they are trying to encourage you to build decks without them.
well, may be making liliam a controlled legendary generator it could work but it would still be way too swingy and unreliable, I don't think we would be seeing him as more than a meme.
Times have changed. Elyse was used in control warriors back then because the legendary pool was mostly of high mana with a lot of very good possibilities to hit excellent legendary minions for the endgame, things like sylvannas, ragnaros, ysera, Dr. Boom, Nefarian and many others, back then the legendary pool was more fit for those huge legendaries that can turn games, if you look at the pool right now, things are much more different, a random legendary could either mean a Lich King or a clutchmother zavas, they are very unreliable now, so unreliable that many lists don't use sindragosa even if the card has a pretty good synergy with frost lich jaina in a big spell mage, because the legendary hardly matters.
That is only talking from a pool perspective, because things have changed so much from 2 years ago, decks now not necessarily care much for board, Warlocks are now mainly caring for making big value turns to kill the opponent and they usually don't care about a big legendary on the other side of the board, board control is something that has changed a lot from what it meant 2 years ago, and those are only 2 points, the AoEs, the removals and the normal minions can rival what legendaries achieved back then.
so, no I don't think this card, or even old elyse in old control warrior are good. legendary generation is not as good as it used to be
In the Paladins legendary Tiam case, it doesn't fit with the op call of arms but it also doesn't really have a place anywhere else either.
Yeah, if you basically need to drop call to arms from the deck for a card to work, you need an effect that is incredibly powerful to offset it.
I do see them clearly designing stuff like that pally 2 drop that can get divine shield and taunt around the card, but the legendary is kinda like throwing a dart and hoping it hits somewhere.
Oof. EU plebian here, I wanted to join. I guess late EDT night is like early morning in CEST? Sadly this week is ultra busy for me so I cant join from work :(
and this is the final reveal? Shit.
OH yeah, are we gonna have a google spreadsheet?
Maybe, but I would doubt it. Only really helps with fatigue and it came after the time that they were pushing non-fatigue finishers hard.
And Paladin only really plays Righteous Protector as 1 cost cards anyway, and those are going to be gone after mulligan and call to arms. When control wanted to play 1 cost spells for Beardo they had to look to freaking Adapt and Blessing of Wisdom as their best options.
I guess might be ok in a secret deck? Though why play a secret deck if you don't want secrets to be somehow played.
Only real thing I can come up with for it is an all 1 cost meme deck.
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Unfortunately yeah, it would be like 5 or 6 a.m. CEST. I don't really have any time to stream besides late at night here. :(
If the paladin legendary card is real, I could see it being thrown into aggro or midrange decks as a plan B. It's not like you want to draw 1 drops after a certain point anyway and what was it a 5/5 for 5 or something. Maybe more for a midrange deck than aggro.
As for the 3 drop, it seems... okay. A 2/5 is something that has a high chance to live. Even have a new buff to try with it. I think it could see play.
As for the 3 drop, it seems... okay. A 2/5 is something that has a high chance to live. Even have a new buff to try with it. I think it could see play.
The 3 drop seems good for aggro. And like you mentioned, by the time you're dropping liam, you DON'T want to draw 1 cost cards at all. So Liam has potential, it's not like you're dropping him on turn 1, and it'll actually make aggro paladin..have a good recovery from early game?
Andyet most of result not gonna pass voidlord or oneshotted by twisting or Geoffrey
Either way its 9 mana card.. its came so late and I think we already see similar card to it like Alana and Krul.. feel the most desired result from it basically build big board instantly
Btw at this point its basically confirmed its real
They already have righteous protector, and I'm still traumatized.
that seems poor, you probably pull too many out with call anyways. I cant imagine that youd liam on curve.
PS For shudderwock I look forward to deathwing>azalina>board development battlecries on a highlight reel
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worst case it would be zero 1 drops. best case, around 3-4. Better than drawing them.
If you're losing after 2 calls, what legendary is going to swing you the game though? If you're dude/murloc the rest of your cards aren't going to synergize, and if you're mid/control your second call to arms probably didn't pull three minions anyway.
Stat-wise, most if the legendaries are better than 1-drops. I'd prefer to top deck a random legendary than a 1drop
Right. If this can pull any legendary, then its even better.
Like I said, on turn 5, a 1drop will be a dead drop/draw. Using Liam to secure your mid game is not a bad strategy
Make sure to finish your quests before midnight tonight. Today is the last day for the pack promotion.
it's only a dead draw if it can't fill in for man usage, you're gonna be much happier w/ a 1 drop than liam when you're trying to divine favour, or set up a Tarim swing turn. The current silverhand redcruit lists run 6 1 drops 4 of which can be pulled by CtA and you want all of them in your starting hand.
So the only way Liam is good is if transforming a single card is good enough for a 5/5 for 5.
Prince Liam isn't good, your win condition revolves around 1 card, and if you don't draw it before turn 5 its value gets reduced with each passing turn. Doesn't help that drawing cards from your decks hurts its power. Also, in a meta where Skulling Geist is a thing, you can't have that many 1 mana spells
So pack quests, even if you have one, goes away? I'd assume you just stop getting them.
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