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TCL P607/605 thread (GOAT budget 4K HDR TV)
- Thread starter Karish
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Isn't it weird that you can't preorder one? Are TVs not like video games? :D
Was going to wait for the 2018 but found a new open box p605 for $300. Just a few questions guys, what are the best settings for a non bright room so I can get the most out of HDR. I'd say that's the only underwhelming thing atm. I have contrast to 100, color at 50, picture mode to hdr bright, neutral color, and local contrast to high. Should I mess with the gamma? ive read some say 2.2 is better, some say 2.4. thanks all Oh, and game mode is on.
use the RTings settings. the majority of people just follow those. you should be using hdr dark, not bright. and 2.0 gamma is what RTings recommens. also, use warm. anything else looks terrible imo.
I think HDR dark and bright don't make a difference really, they're just different presets you can adjust. By default the only difference in them is the hdr color temperature? But you can make them whatever you want.
There IS a difference between the Dolby dark and bright presets though.
Also does rtings suggest gamma 2.0 for SDR or HDR? I just use 2.2 fwiw, I liked using 2.0 for darker content as it would lighten up the dark scenes and bring out some shadow detail, but I felt it brightened the overall image too much for non dark stuff and it would lose some contrast/pop. I also hated having to switch between 2.2 and 2.0 so I now just leave it at 2.2 which rtings originally stated was more accurate.
2.4 is too dark, I would never use that.
I dunno. Who decides that...the retailer or vendor? I'd wait to see what vizio has in store on april 10th anyways as they are pretty much the main competition in price. Maybe their M/P series get upgraded to be more competitive with TCL and Sony upgrades. I personally would never pre-order a TV until reviewers have actually gotten hands on time with them. hah
I just got done watching one of my Vudu movies about 30 mins ago, so nope.
oh yeah, i forgot about the weirdness with the hdr modes and color temperatures.
rtings originally had 2.2 for their hdr settings, but in the video they posted recently they changed their recommendation to 2.0. i always used 2.0 for movies anyways. 2.2 always seemed a little too dark with local dimming on.
speaking of local dimming, do all you guys use it on high? i've been using low recently. it seems like that setting keeps most of the benefits without the extra darkness that high gives.
If anyone wants a torture test for grey uniformity/dse play inside lol
Downtown level for tlou remastered is good too.
Downtown level for tlou remastered is good too.
I'm really hoping for a similar price for the new 55-inch, but may pick up the 2017 if cheap. Is there a major difference between 72 & 96 zones? I'm stupid when it comes to TV's.
The 55" is set at the same price point as the p series; $650. It's the 65" price point that we're still waiting to hear.
I'm having a dumb loss of WiFi connection every time the tv has been off and turned on after a little bit of time passes. I have to go and join the WiFi network again (it has the password remembered in settings too which makes it dumber that I have to manually go in and hit join).
I don't use fast start up (but it was never an issue before) and it started happening only after I switched from WiFi to wired connection for one day then decided to go back to WiFi. Ever since now it fails to rejoin on its own after turning back on. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Gonna reboot router and tv and see if it helps. Anyone have this issue before?
I don't use fast start up (but it was never an issue before) and it started happening only after I switched from WiFi to wired connection for one day then decided to go back to WiFi. Ever since now it fails to rejoin on its own after turning back on. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Gonna reboot router and tv and see if it helps. Anyone have this issue before?
I've got on old TV going out at just the right time. I'm very anxious to see what the 65" will cost.
It will surely be under $1k, right?
It will surely be under $1k, right?
That would be pretty insane.
I'm expecting something around $1200-1400. Which is also pretty insane, just slightly more realistic.
Yeah, it's probably wishful thinking. $999 or even $1099 would be awesome though.
I haven't had any problem with WiFi before, I was having an issue with streaming an on demand episode of a show so I tried connecting wired to see if it was an issue with the WiFi but it wasn't, same happened when wired. Turned out to just be that episode I was trying to stream though, everything else worked flawlessly so I went back to WiFi. One less cable to worry about is one less cable to worry about for my neatness and cable management afterall hehe.
But yeah WiFi on 5GHz works flawlessly for me, I never get buffering or have any issue streaming full UHD content.
It's just this random disconnecting issue ever since going wired and back, but I think I fixed it by restarting everything now.
It's hard to say. The Vizio p series seems better in some ways but worse in others on paper. Less zones than the 2017 but higher peak brightness (1000 nits). M series doesn't sound like it changed much. Will have to wait to see reviews. Prices are higher though.
How did you find one? Just luck or is there a way to search for open box? Can't seem to find any through BB app. Thanks!
Isn't p better than m? Seems to me like tcl is better at the 6 level. If m is their budget competitor and it's not much changed...
Yeah. But it's like all just based on paper right now :]
They actually dropped the pricing on the Vizio website since I saw them last night. The old markup trick.
So at the very least the pricing looks good for 65 inch and bodes well for whatever the tcl ends up pricing at.
The 2017 models have an RF input right? Debating between one of these and the Vizio competitor.
I found one through a outlet warehouse on craigslist not best buy.
For 2017, one review said the motion and blur was awful. True? And expecting 2018 to be better?
This is my biggest concern regarding this years model. I want to get the 65" so as long as it stays the same I'm in. If it gets worse, I'll try to pick up a 2017 model and deal with the 55"
My cable company/cable box "universal" remote syncs up fine, but annoyingly while it will power the tv on/off, turn channels/volume up/down, and toggle inputs with the input button, it will not utilize the universal remotes up/down/left/right and enter keys, so I'm stuck keeping the tv remote around to navigate the tv interface/roku menus needed to watch any of the "smart tv" stuff.
Yea it's supposed to be May 1st. Hopefully Vizios announcement today, makes TCL give us some more details. I'm curious about the peak brightness for the 2018 model. What was the brightness for her rates at for the 2017?(that question is for anyone).
Is that good enough for Dolby Vision? I thought DV had much higher requirements than that.
I think Dolby Vision stuff is mastered at like 4,000 nits? Or was it 10,000?
Basically no TV currently out can reach Dolby Visions reference levels yet.
Dolby Vision is better though because it includes HDR meta info for more fine control over HDR mastering. Or something like that is how I understood it at least.
How does 1080p content look on this thing? That's my biggest concern when upgrading to a 4K display, as I still watch a ton of 1080p-only video.
One review mentioned 630 nits, but yeah, you don't get the full HDR effect with DV, as it requires 1000 nits. Hopefully, the 2018 model can hit 800-900 nits.
Just fine, don't notice a thing different, the tv is perfectly adept at displaying that resolution as well as any HDTV (other than the fact that when your eyes starts seeing 4k HDR content, 1080p starts looking terribly plain.)
dolby vision and in general any dynamic hdr/metadata stuff will help these lower nit sets.
one thing to keep in mind about the Vizio M series (both 2017-2018) is that they are still 60hz. we're still not sure about what the TCL 6 will be. :crosses fingers: another reason i'm leaving towards the vizio p at the moment as that one is 120.
one thing to keep in mind about the Vizio M series (both 2017-2018) is that they are still 60hz. we're still not sure about what the TCL 6 will be. :crosses fingers: another reason i'm leaving towards the vizio p at the moment as that one is 120.
i've read that dolby vision helps low peak brightness displays more than stuff with 1000+ nits
There's some discussion about this in the official TV technology thread, so I thought I'd ask here as well for answers from some more owners of these sets..
How is it for viewing sports? Is the dirty screen effect super noticeable and distracting?
How is it for viewing sports? Is the dirty screen effect super noticeable and distracting?
I'm sorry but what's 2 and a half weeks away? The release of the 2018 model?
Oooh, the TCL website has finally been updated with the new 6 series as separate from the P series. May 1st, still no pricing.
Oh wow! Yeah I definitely agree that we should have more info by now. I'm considering selling my 605 and buying this year's model if the improvements are big enough.
Yea I was hoping that Vizio would make them counter with more information regarding the 6 series, maybe we'll get more information on their website/press release within the coming week or so. I've been saving up for the 55inch for the game room, I just hope I can get one easy enough come the first of May if that's when we'll actually see them haha.