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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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The vertical banding is the only thing keeping me from loving the C7. Color banding can be annoying (especially on 1080p and lesser content) and motion isn't wonderful (at least not coming from a Kuro), but the vertical banding on 5% gray drives me nuts. It wouldn't be as big an issue if it was just when the screen was all dark-ish black, but I notice it in some scenes/games when there are numerous dark colors/shades and the camera pans.
Also I can't get my PC to connect wirelessly using LG's app, but that's not a huge deal since I have spare HDMI's.
Also I can't get my PC to connect wirelessly using LG's app, but that's not a huge deal since I have spare HDMI's.
I sit about 8 feet back, went from 55 to 65, and thought it was huge at first but adjusted quickly. It's possible you might think it's too big but at only 5 inch difference I would assume your eyes would adjust too.
So, was shocked by the amount of grain/noise I got from UHD content on Netflix and after investigating further I found out that it was hideous (a bit hyperbolic I know) by design. What in the actual F*** ? Some of the good ones (Okja, Frontier, Mindhunter) doesn't look better than good Blu-rays.
Is there any way to enjoy good UHD fiction movie without paying a new subscription fee to an other app nor buying a pricey Apple TV ?
Is there any way to enjoy good UHD fiction movie without paying a new subscription fee to an other app nor buying a pricey Apple TV ?
UHD content streamed is only ever going to look as good as blu-rays no matter which service you try. There is only so much bandwidth your network can handle. Also grain will only be emphasised more with 4K material.
That isn't true of Apple TV though, it's very close to 4K discs.
I actually got burn in on my Galaxy S8. Which is kind of making me hesitant to buy an OLED TV.
Luckily I'm trying to tell myself I don't need a new TV right now anyway.
Luckily I'm trying to tell myself I don't need a new TV right now anyway.
Are you saying Apple TV's are better at reproducing streamed 4K on their sets than LG, Samsung, Sony etc. Or does it somehow produce better quality from streamed sources? Or is it the Apple TV box you can get as I have considered getting one.
I'm not sure if they're really comparable as it's not exactly the same technology. If OLED tv's had a serious issue with burn in they would not be as popular as they are. That said I quite understand people being cautious and essentially having to be mindful of potentially damaging a product seems off putting. I have a C8 ready to get installed later today but I am going to be cautious with content. Should I have to be? Well, if you had a car you'd try and not damage it wouldn't you? I look at it in the same way.
It's a combination of bitrate and Apple's proprietary video container used (which alludes me at present) that they use on their store films, doesn't affect Netflix or other streaming services BTW, but I'm very impressed with the quality! Vincent Teoh was hard pressed to tell the difference, between ATV to disc.
My car doesn't get damaged from driving on the same road everyday.
The bit-rate is the same between Apple streams and Blu-ray. There isn't a quality leap from BD to 4K stream, but there is from BD to UHD disc.
It comes down to compression then, because there is barely a divide in quality, I mean I've done A-B comparisons myself, and I can't see a difference, and other outlets can't either.
If your use case is mainly static news channels (see: CNN) or the same videogame for hundreds / thousands of hours (assuming that game has bright, static HUD elements) you'd be best off not getting an OLED. If not, get it and enjoy it and treat it well but don't baby it.
There is information in the OP and rtings is running a fantastic burn in test right now, which I advise you to check out. Otherwise, this question does come up every couple of pages so do some skimming and you should find some answers.
Don't get me wrong, I have an ATV 4K and love it, and would settle for Apple's 4K content for convenience sake alone, but I do notice the difference. For the cost and convenience alone though I will definitely be sticking to digital when it comes to my 4K content. The slight improvement in quality visually (although there is massive improvement in audio quality on disc it must be said) is not enough to justify the major inconvenience that physical disc collections amount to today.
I sold a ton of my discs and bought the ATV versions for sometimes half the price, wish they'd add Atmos though, but it's definitely a great service.
Apologies if this question has been asked before (254 pages long thread so it probably has), but how much better is Sony's X900E over the TCL P607? Is the $350 difference worth getting the Sony instead? I know there's new TCL models coming out next month and I won't be buying a new TV till June when I visit the US, but was just curious about these two specifically as they seem to be the ones that are the most recommended "budget" sets. Having said that, will there be any other new budget (as in the $1000 range) sets coming by June so I can keep an eye out when I do buy a set then? Primary usage will be 50/50 between gaming (PS4 Pro, Switch, PC) and video content (Netflix, Blu-rays etc).
Same. A HDMI 2.1 LG OLED with all the gaming perks ready to go sounds perfect. The C8 already appears to deal with my main annoyances with the 7 series. I'm guessing the 9 series will be around the 1000 dollar/euro mark in about two years. That's good enough for me to return to OLED :)
I bought bias lighting for my 930e too, but found the tv to be so bright that it didn't work/help.
I'd buy two two sets of lights, I plan on getting another strip too.
You're still missing out on Dolby Vision though. I'd say that's a meaningful difference between regular bd and Apple streams.
I'll consider getting one then as I've never been happy with the quality of so-called 4K streaming that I've seen via my PC. However it wouldn't replace my disc collection if Atmos isn't present nor the the extras that come with multiple discs (though does Apple TV films come with the extras like commentary etc?).
You do get extras. Never seen a commentary track though.
Apple have said Atmos is coming, but we'll see.
From what I've seen, you don't really get the extra stuff, maybe commentary though.
My wife just bought The Greatest Showman on our AppleTV iTunes, it has all the extras: commentaries, deleted scenes, musical sections, etc. So I'm not sure that's true.
I'll hop in on ATV as soon as there's Atmos, like many above. Even then, it'll likely be for rentals I don't really care about (at least from an audio perspective), as it will still be DD+ core, not True HD core, like UHD discs.
I wasn't sure, all the stuff I've seen has been pretty bare.
Yup just checked some of my films and they have commentaries too. Didn't notice before.
Yeah, my plan is to get enough strip to cover all 4 corners.
Hmm the C8 rtings review says no active hdr in hdr game mode? I thought that was already demoed? Turning on dc low in hdr game mode turns on active hdr and makes hdr game mode brighter?
It has an 'dynamic tone mapping' toggle, guess it's a mistake.
I grabbed one for $100 yesterday. I felt like at that price it's a no brainer, especially given the fact that you can get digital movies for cheeeeeeap.
Edit: there are numerous sites where you can purchase 4K codes for $3-5. Having the ability to watch these movies on the 4K TV or an iPad is sweet.
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Today i realised i have horizontal band running down the middle of my 940E. Local dimming hides most of it but In a dark scene it looks like there is a lighter patch in the middle of the screen.
Is there a way to rid of it or should i look at a repair or return?
Is there a way to rid of it or should i look at a repair or return?
Seems like such an stupid thing to cheap out in with such an expensive TV. Would USB 2.0 ports still power a portable hard drive? More importantly, now that UHD backups are becoming possible for more releases would USB 2.0 provide enough bandwidth to stream them from a portable drive?
https://www.apple.com/ca/apple-tv-4k/
A ton of quality Apps, including games, and if you're an iPhone user, a shit ton of useful iOS integration like Airplay, iCloud Photos, Homekit, etc.
Sorry, I more meant are there any benefits against existing apps. For example, will Netflix look better than the LG app?
It does not benefit third party apps as far as PQ goes. I have a c8 and ATV 4k. In fact there is a bug in hdr content via all external devices to the LG oleds that makes them look too dark (not sure if this is now firmware patched). The one other nice thing about ATV is the ability to pick up shows and movies across streaming services, so you have a single streaming interface. Like on the home page it will say "Resume Orville E7" (Hulu), "Resume Stranger Things E3" (Netflix) etc. which I do like. The ATV store also has more streaming apps than the LG store (Starz etc.)
Just bought the Zelda DLCs and I plan to play the game on the OLED.
I'm very anxious about burning in the heart containers but I shouldn't avoid playing a game because of this.
I will keep you all updated with settings and hours consecutively played.
I'm very anxious about burning in the heart containers but I shouldn't avoid playing a game because of this.
I will keep you all updated with settings and hours consecutively played.
Cool, thank you. It's worth it just to play digital movies but it's nice to know there are a couple other benefits. Oh, and it's portable which is cool.
So for me it now comes down to b7 or c8. I read the rtings review of the c8 and it doesn't really detail what it's fancy new processor over the b7/c7/b8 is really doing.
It can't be worth a $1000 premium, right?
It can't be worth a $1000 premium, right?
How does OLED burn-in compare to plasma burn-in? I've had my plasma for years and never even worried about the potential for burn-in. I played games to my hearts content and typically have MSNBC on for hours at a time. I can absolutely see the MSNBC logo in the lower left corner of my screen but I think it's only temporary image retention. I don't think it stays there permanently but I could be wrong. Either way, I don't find it distracting during normal use or when I switch to another program or movie.
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Right. From the rtings c8 review:
Owned a plasma for 9 years and the IR and burn in never bothered me. I got some, but it would not show in content or be distracting enough.
Got a C7 since November and never experienced IR or burn in.
Bright red is the main culprit of burn in issues on OLED, BOTW will be the ultimate test regarding burn in issues.
The Phillips Hue ones are super expensive because they tie into the whole Hue ecosystem, are controlled by WiFi, etc. If you have any of that stuff set up, it miiiiight be worth it.
I got the largest-sized Luminoodle, which works well on the X930E... except that the TV puts power to the USB ports (sporadically) even when the set power is off. I bought a cheap USB power switch, and turn the bias lighting on and off that way.
I've noticed bright red is the biggest culprit for ir on my 9 year old plasma.
Yea, if OLED is an improvement on plasma in this regard and ultimately I do end up buying an OLED, I'm not going to worry about it. I hardly game like I used to anymore anyway.
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