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Easy Allies |OT| The New Era
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Lmao I was hoping someone replied with this
Ehhhh.........
A thread pretty much saying "hey, eza needs more money" probably wouldn't go down to well.
Maybe a thread when they go live announcing the huge live stream would be ok. Let people discover the fundraiser on their own?
Nice, you guys are the best place to go for E3. Hands down. Just hours upon hours of coverage. Keeps me going for days. So I'm saving up some money that I would spend on breakfast, games, etc., and I'll put it towards what you guys need.
EZA Best E3 Coverage indeed.
And will reach even greater heights when everything is put on Podcast services...please...call the feed EZA Events or something and have it for other events throughout the year
I love EZA as much as the next guy but don't take away from your food budget lol
And will reach even greater heights when everything is put on Podcast services...please...call the feed EZA Events or something and have it for other events throughout the year
Woah woah woah
I love EZA as much as the next guy but don't take away from your food budget lol
Lol, thanks guys.
Don't worry. Its fast food garbage, like Mcdonalds and crap like that. I should start making my own coffee and breakfast in the morning. I should have clarified, haha.
They need better cameras to properly capture Huber's energy while he is attacking people at the E3 floor with pure hype beams and shouts.
Lmaooo
Oh gotcha. Yeah that's better then. But do indulge from time to time if your heart so desires
New 50k goal: Huber will physically tackle Reggie Fils-Aime on the show floor.
"NO BODY IS READIER THAN MINE"
*spears Reggie through the Ratchet and Clank stand*
*VanderBerghe silently watches from afar*
*spears Reggie through the Ratchet and Clank stand*
*VanderBerghe silently watches from afar*
Nice idea on the fundraiser, hope it's a big success.
What's wrong with this dude, does he not want to see.
When Giantbomb did their big annual fundraisers they had their own threads, so I don't see why not.
What's wrong with this dude, does he not want to see.
When Giantbomb did their big annual fundraisers they had their own threads, so I don't see why not.
/shrug
Dunno, up to you guys. I'm not inherently against it, I could just see how it could kinda go wrong, thats all.
Giant bomb have a free that's called giant bomb presents that they use for interviews and other weird shit. Eza could use a secondary feed as well of they are worried about clogging people's feeds with content but they really shouldn't be worried about that. I would consume way more of there E3 coverage if I could listen to it in audio form.
Sorry everyone but... uh...why do they need a fundraiser for their equipment?
They get more than $40.000 a month. They are 9 allies. I don't know how this stuff gets taxed but let's say they get $3000 after taxes or something for their part time job (afaik noone of them works fulltime at EZA), then there would be a considerable amount monthly to fund this stuff on their own?
Don't get me wrong, they can earn as much as they want, but I have zero clue why a fundraiser is needed.
They get more than $40.000 a month. They are 9 allies. I don't know how this stuff gets taxed but let's say they get $3000 after taxes or something for their part time job (afaik noone of them works fulltime at EZA), then there would be a considerable amount monthly to fund this stuff on their own?
Don't get me wrong, they can earn as much as they want, but I have zero clue why a fundraiser is needed.
That's not including all of their taxes, fees that Patreon takes, maintenance, Jones' mortgage so they have somewhere to shoot, etc. Even then, 3k per month per ally is a really, really meager amount of money.
Ok? So $5000 a month or so isn't enough for better equipment? Hiring somebody who is good handling said equipment would be the better investment anyway.
No they are not. No, $3000+ for a part time job isn't really low. Again, I don't care how much they earn, but they don't need fundraisers.
I considered taxes and fees. Without those everyone of them would get $4400 a month. I just went with $3000 instead. Again, none of them are there full time. They have more than that.
I like Jones but he would have to pay his mortgage one or the other way privately. The fact they are filming there adds nothing to their expenses. That's a ridiculous argument. A good argument would be a studio.
I want to live in a world where $3000 for a part time job is a meager amount of money. Can you invite me to that fairyland?
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The cost of living in the L.A. area means they probably live just comfortably enough to not be constantly struggling at that level of income. I have no idea how they handle splitting their Patreon funds, but it's probably not as easy as it seems to have extra funds to pay for equipment.
No idea how much but I know that Patreon takes a big chunk off. Also, dont forget taxes, they work legally so all their income has to be declared, thats another chunk off.
The thing is, the fundraiser is not for their usual equipment. Its for extra stuff to make E3 better. For now we dont know what that means... what if they need money cause they wanna have a live E3 booth or something. Thats easily 20k or something. I honestly dont think its gonna br something that cool & crazy but what i mean is, we dont know yet what they will ask for.
Ps: In Europe in my country if my pay is 4000, my actual salary will be around 2300..
You're wrong. The only one where it's not a part time job is Don. Everyone else this patreon is their primary source of income. This isn't some side hobby for them and the content they've provided is almost at the level they were when all of them were full time. So doing one time surges on equipment so It doesn't come out of their take home money is not an unreasonable ask.
We spend weeks on this thread asking EZA to grow and now we got people showing up saying they don't need fundraising? How do you think these things grow? Fundraising campaigns is part of that
That's another thing though, why don't they just tell us now. Ian said under a random youtube comment they will tell people on the day of streaming or maybe one day before that. Some people are confused why the need the money, so explaining what for now what would be the smart thing to do no?
I look forward to their E3 coverage either way, it's just that this is a bit fishy to me. I don't like that feeling in regards to EZA. :/
There are several allies that are full time. Whenever they do have extra money it is set aside for something to reinvest in the company. This has happened several times with things like a new camera and lights. As well as paying for events like the concert and the easy livin stream.
Luckily, we'll find out on stream just what kind of crazy equipment they're gunning for to make E3 coverage expert tier.
It's also a good opportunity for some Patreon growth via fundraising streams (as it's been suggested by the community) before they unveil the new Patreon stuff during THAT stream.
Come on now. They just want to make better content for their paying audience.
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I never was one of the people that said they need to grow. I mean obviously that would be nice for them, just saying I never stated that.
I know this isn't some sort of hobby for them ffs. I'm pretty sure they do other stuff as well though, at least I've read that somewhere not too long ago. Not all of them, but some.
And I'm really curios what that equipment entails. If it's some special stuff like Stinkinmushroom suggest then ok, but if it's just the usual stuff like newer cameras and sound equipment I really wonder what's going on. Again, they should rather hire someone who's in charge of all the tech things.
As stated earlier it would've been wiser of them to just say what they plan now instead of doing that meme video.
But yeah, we will see.
Another thing I just realized is that for some regions the stream will be crossing with God of Wars release...why not make it a day earlier EZA...
It's not fishy at all, you need more income to grow a business.
Last I heard, Jones, Ben and Damiani all work full time at EZA, while Blood and Huber basically work full time. Though that was a while ago and things might've changed since then, cause it sure seems like Brad's doing a lot of reviews and Kyle's putting a LOT of time into Box Peek. They also live in a very expensive city and the Patreon has dropped a couple thousand dollars over the last few months.
I always hated when the thread on the old forums got into its armchair accounting mode, so can we please not do that? I don't think it should surprise anyone that buying expensive new equipment might need more money than they have budgeted out right now.
Sure. I just think 40k (yeah, yeah taxes and fees), + sponsoring + merch would be enough. But we will see what they actually want to buy with the fundraiser (which is timed badly.)
Ok then. Going to sleep now. Have fun.
Brandon, Ben, and Damiani are officially full time. We don't exactly have a breakdown of how they all spend their time but I'm willing to bet at least Blood and Kyle put in close to if not more than full time hours. Thinking this is fishy or unreasonable is ridiculous.
Edit: Too slow
How exactly? By going against God of War?
I'm not sure I follow, because it'd be around the same start time if it was any other day of the week.
Yes, some equipment with Huber Dynamic Range (HDR) support would be great.
Yes, by going against GoW. People who will get this digitally sure as hell won't watch the EZA stream as soon this drops.
Some timezones don't work well with the game release and EZA stream at all.
People are too picky about this. On tuesday they have cup of jones and group stream on Tuesday where they will be working until atleast midnight (there time) between doing the stream, recording the podcast and probably finalizing plans for Thursday.
On wednesday they will be releasing a new episode of tabletop as well as the the early release of the podcast. So they would be counterprograming themselves.
Thursday they don't have anything going on. God of war will be released digitally for the last two hours of the stream. However, god of war will be released to the world on Friday and a lot more people will be preoccupied with that then the much smaller group of people accessing it early Thursday night. Not to mention that labo releases on Friday as well.
So it seems to me that Thursday is the only day that would work well for them.
Gow is Friday.
This is all day Thursday.
If anything, this is the best time. I can fill a whole day with EZA.
I don't see the problem as it will be on youtube later. I don't buy/play GoW, but I will not watch the stream live either (maybe a small part, but probably not), but most likely during the following weekend. I don't see a problem with that.
Yakuza 6 is also coming out, I am sure that the people who want to watch the stream will find a way to watch it. I know I will.
If you have the amount of fans they have, you start to get to a point that there is always a decision which people don't agree with.
It's unfortunate you don't agree with it, but I think it is a good idea.
Btw, I am not convinced most of them do other things next to EZA and (like people said before), they live in LA which is notorious for being very expensive to live in (also, professional equipment can get very expensive). Ian and Don do edit stuff for other companies as far as I know. I don't know about the rest.
Jones, Ben and Damiani are full time the last time I heard, but I guess Blood can give more info about that (if he/EZA wants).
If you don't want to pay extra, don't. You don't have to. I am not sure yet if I am going to either (not that I don't want them to get the equipment, but I am not sure if I can).
Hopefully they can get some new patrons out of this (and we will get an entertaining stream for sure).
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There was also a moment when it said "BEEFIER STUFF BEEFORE E3 - STILL MOOIN' AL". Love little things like that =)
EDIT: Regarding cost for equipment, Linus Tech Tips really put in perspective for me how ridiculously expensive the gear is to produce high quality content for YouTube. Couple of office tours here where Linus talks about camera and accessory costs. He's referring to Canadian dollars I'm sure:
https://youtu.be/_EMhR6cUN8Y?t=2m42s
https://youtu.be/dWKSSGfjlIk?t=14m32s
Now these are from a few years ago, and they've definitely upgraded their whole operation, but it puts things in perspective. That FS700 was something they bought when they were still working out of Linus's garage IIRC...there's actually a similar history to his company, including getting crowdfunding through donations to eventually be able to afford a proper studio space.
I'd actually love it if Jones had an opportunity to talk to Linus. Their business models are different, with Linus directly selling ad space for videos, but I think there's a lot to learn there about the business/management side of things.
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They're in LA. This has benefits (easier access to industry events!). And its negatives (cost of living is terribad).
$40k a month would go further in the midwest, but EZA isn't in the midwest
Also, quality equipment costs more than you think it does.
Ian answered it in the comment section
Thrill seeker 1 - Gustavsson & Sandberg
In other news GOW review is over 200k views. So that's cool
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Thanks!
And yeah, the gow video is incredible.
I think it might be second highest gow viewed review on youtube? I cant imagine anyone higher than ign and gamespot.
edit: Nevermind, gamespot somehow just blasted away. Kinda crazy how popular IGN is. Like, you get a good score on there, you are set, haha. 10 from IGN will probably go a long way.
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