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mattysaurus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Thanks to you both. I'll see how things shake down comfort-wise with OG controllers...frankly I think they'll be the "best" solution for playability on action games.

Now, seeing all this info on the AVS has me exploring it, as well. Without seeing any "toe-to-toe" comparison, I *think* the Mini NT is the better machine performance wise, but I'll do my research.

Not sure what you mean by "performance," but the only benefit the mini has over the AVS is 1080p (which I don't use because I think 720p scales better) and core support (which is admittedly a nice addition, but not worth an extra $300 to me).

Latest AVS firmware also support H. Interpolation, which the mini physically can't. To me, the AVS is much more in line with the idea of the Super NT: a simple, relatively affordable system that looks a bit like the original system and plays games very well.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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that feeling when your Super Gameboy finally arrives! :D

Then you realize you have no idea where your gameboy games are stored... :(
 

GreenMonkey

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Oct 28, 2017
1,862
Michigan
Yes, but you can mitigate it by putting tape over the contacts to better match the original pad's (example - there are plenty more you can look up as well). It takes a bit of adjusting to get it right (if done incorrectly, which is pretty much unavoidable on your first go, it will either have no effect or lack sensitivity), but it's worth doing even if not a perfect solution.

Some people also suggest swapping the dpad with an original SNES one (or raising the SF30's slightly), but I can't speak to this fix. The original SNES controller was designed so that each cardinal direction had two tabs required for input. This cut down on erroneous diagonals. The SF30 just has one per cardinal direction, making it easier to trigger diagonals but leading to more frequent false responses. The Switch Pro controller had the same issue. Presumably, it's a mix of design problems causing the diagonal issue - PCB desgin, membrane design, d-pad height - and all you can do is experiment with fixing these until you get desired results.

I still haven't gotten mine quite right yet. I need to take it apart again and swap the electrical tape for scotch tape and see if that helps.
 

F34R

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Oct 27, 2017
12,002
I used scotch tape on my nes and super nes 8bitdo controllers and it has seemingly fixed the dpad issues completely for me. Proper placement of the tape helps a lot. It took me a few tries to get it right for me. Once it wasn't sensitive enough to properly make contact and I had to press harder. Then it wasn't enough to keep from diagonal mis-pressing. The third time was the charm lol.
 

SoH

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Oct 25, 2017
5,739
What is the thinking with scotch tape over electrical? Electrical too thick?
 

Krathoon

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Oct 27, 2017
482
In Japan now considering buying a Famicom and FDS because I'm having doubts about ever getting an Analogue NES System or Super Nt core. :(


I did however get a bunch of special chip games for cheap while I was here. I love Super Famicom game prices!
Got FFIV, Chrono Trigger, FFV, and Seiken Densetsu 3 for $10 in a bundle at the Super Potato in Nagoya.

Can't wait to get home and play them on a giant TV.

Yeah. North America kind of has high prices for SNES.
You have to dig around at flea markets and Goodwills to get better deals.
 

Dukes

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Oct 27, 2017
41
Yeah. North America kind of has high prices for SNES.
You have to dig around at flea markets and Goodwills to get better deals.

I don't understand the draw of buying SFC RPGs, can someone explain? Unless you can speak/read Japanese what is the point? Games that are more action oriented I get, the language barrier isn't that big of a deal however, not being able to parse (without a lot of work) an RPG would ruin the experience for me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Osaka, Osaka
I don't understand the draw of buying SFC RPGs, can someone explain? Unless you can speak/read Japanese what is the point? Games that are more action oriented I get, the language barrier isn't that big of a deal however, not being able to parse (without a lot of work) an RPG would ruin the experience for me.

I think you answered your own question. :)

That's basically it. Maybe and just maybe, someone purely wants to collect it.
 

Proteus

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Oct 25, 2017
7,984
Toronto
The only SFC RPG I plan to pickup eventually is FFVI because it's one of my favourite games of all time and it has my favourite boxart of all time.
 

fierrotlepou

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Oct 25, 2017
1,255
I'm a noob: do you still get the lag free SNES experience if you run games from an SD card or would you need the actual cartridge for that?
 

SoH

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm a noob: do you still get the lag free SNES experience if you run games from an SD card or would you need the actual cartridge for that?

I can't tell any difference in lag whether from a cart or from the SD card.
(Though I've wondered if the SD card speed has much to do with that.)

The ROM gets copied in its entirety so the SD card speed is completely irrelevant except for how long it takes to copy it when launched.

In every way I can think you would measure lag it will give identical results.
 

Morfid_Plays

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Oct 27, 2017
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We had any movement on the cores being implemented?

Alternatively what's the actual chances of a nt mini run in the future
 

F34R

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Oct 27, 2017
12,002
None .... you sure about that statement ?

They clearly just said we don't have time at the moment, not never gonna Happen
That's my take on it. You asked. It's a guessing game. No one here is actually going to know first hand. You know as much as everyone else at this point. So, my take is none.
 

Morfid_Plays

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nobody's sure about anything but until they say something we shouldn't hold our breath for more Nt minis.

I can see a easier to produce plastic shell model with just hdmi being the go to in the future, but I really hope someone manages to get a nes core functioning on the super
 

SoH

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can see a easier to produce plastic shell model with just hdmi being the go to in the future, but I really hope someone manages to get a nes core functioning on the super

My guess is they would rather get the SNT up to feature parity (or as close as possible) as the nt mini and then produce and sell a shitload of SNT's, so my money is still on the cores coming. kevtris has gone pretty quiet on all efforts so either he is deep into getting the DAC working (which he has said he can't discuss at all so the radio silence makes sense), or they have already started on the next thing.

I hope the former, personally, but who knows. All we can do is wait for news.
 

Morfid_Plays

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Oct 27, 2017
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If you watch the verge video interview you can see the nt In a plastic shell so I think the work is already done tbh

I can't see from a business sense then cutting off a potential source of revenue for no reason , if it is after the sega model even I can see them doing a small batch at least

As for cores , why isn't it possible another user can get the cores to run ?
 

Morfid_Plays

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Oct 27, 2017
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F34R

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Oct 27, 2017
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If you watch the verge video interview you can see the nt In a plastic shell so I think the work is already done tbh

I can't see from a business sense then cutting off a potential source of revenue for no reason , if it is after the sega model even I can see them doing a small batch at least

As for cores , why isn't it possible another user can get the cores to run ?
That's for the NT Mini as it is now, but in a different shell. They'll have to redesign the PCB to only include the HDMI.
 

Morfid_Plays

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Oct 27, 2017
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Have you ever at a retailer level comissioned a product ... I have several times

The Initial strife of product designs, testing , commercial release , adjustments
Getting quantities for future orders etc
Everything at the start is a nightmare

However once the molds are done
The systems are at there best
Everything is as it should be

There is no real man power needed, the issue solely becomes time management , delivering the product and commercially dealing with it as such

The self perpetuating re order systems only problem here is lack of cash injection or man power otherwise a company would not discountinue a product that has demand
 

F34R

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Oct 27, 2017
12,002
Have you ever at a retailer level comissioned a product ... I have several times

The Initial strife of product designs, testing , commercial release , adjustments
Getting quantities for future orders etc
Everything at the start is a nightmare

However once the molds are done
The systems are at there best
Everything is as it should be

There is no real man power needed, the issue solely becomes time management , delivering the product and commercially dealing with it as such

The self perpetuating re order systems only problem here is lack of cash injection or man power otherwise a company would not discountinue a product that has demand
They are a small outfit, and it took several months to sell out their last NT Mini stock. They aren't going there again.