based on the Latin America leak from January I knew she had a diffrent song. Theory is pearl, topaz or pink sings it
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Steven Universe |OT| Diamonds are Unbreakable....I guess
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But I want to have my answers now! Great episodes today!
OH MY DIAMOOONDS! And it explains why Greg can charm blue diamond so easily. What a guy.
Alright
I think I might get back into SU
Both episodes were really good, and as I commented last episode batch on the app that so far I think Season 5 has been really good, I honestly believe Season 5 may end up being the best season of the show if this keeps up (which is good, since while Season 4 had some great episodes and I still liked it, I do think Season 4 was much weaker than Seasons 2 & 3).
The Lapis episode I think did good with some emotional depth (which hits close here since I have a really close friend who had to really struggle in the past with her own scars, anxiety, and running away issues), and Pearl's episode both deals with Pearl as a character and of course a really big lore drop.
The Lapis episode I think did good with some emotional depth (which hits close here since I have a really close friend who had to really struggle in the past with her own scars, anxiety, and running away issues), and Pearl's episode both deals with Pearl as a character and of course a really big lore drop.
I also will say the lore drop makes a lot of sense of what Steven's dreams keep showing him and why though.
One question I have...
So, was there ever a Rose Quartz? Was the "rebellion" always led by Pink Diamond in disguise?
Apparently. Shattering Pink Diamond is what really kicked off the rebellion after all.
nope, I mean the species is real and we have no idea what they do but pink got an entire race of gem imprisoned
Man we better see what an actual Rose Quartz looks like now.
Well, there were other Rose Quartzes, we've seen them bubbled in the zoo but the implication is that the rebellion was started by Pink Diamond disguised as a Rose Quartz, so the rebellious Rose never existed which is interesting because it means the Rose story Garnet told was just as wrong as the stories the off colors thought were true.
What I want to know is if Pink's gem looked like a rose quartz gem by chance and she used that as an opportunity or did she intentionally make the rose Quartzes to resemble her gem sideways? Blue said they were hers and that she made them so it is possible.
What I want to know is if Pink's gem looked like a rose quartz gem by chance and she used that as an opportunity or did she intentionally make the rose Quartzes to resemble her gem sideways? Blue said they were hers and that she made them so it is possible.
They'll look very similar to Pink Rose or the disguise wouldn't have worked, there's probably a variety in shades and hairstyles like we've seen with the Famethyst.
Not really.
I assume Rose was just a plan to get away from her duties and explore as a commoner but it got out of control.
How about the fact she literally got all her friends killed in a dumb rebellion.
Or that Pearl helped in all of it only for Rose to eventually fall in love with a human and give up existing as a Diamond. How about that fucking part?
Or that Pearl helped in all of it only for Rose to eventually fall in love with a human and give up existing as a Diamond. How about that fucking part?
That's still sorta unclear, as Pearl is wearing everyone's colors in the flashback and Pearls are supposed to have their gems placed according to the diamond they serve. Or so it's my understanding.
Instead of confronting the other diamonds with her desires (like she did before!!!) she staged an entire rebellion against herself with many casualities. Imagine if she also knew that the corruption attack was coming. She is one of only four diamonds after all and she knew them.
I think the rebellion was started by Pink disguised as a Rose Quartz. She took an interest in (and probably eventually fell in love with) her Pearl and realized how unfairly Pearl was treated. Maybe Pink shapeshifted into a Rose Quartz so she could experience how the gems she ruled over lived. She ended up falling in love with Earth and deciding that the current gem society was corrupt. What's a running theme of the show, and something that Rose herself would tell her allies? Earth is a place where you can be whatever you want to be...including a Diamond who decides to live a free life where she doesn't oppress her people and destroy organic life.
She probably tried to convince Blue and Yellow to leave Earth alone, but when they refused, she decided another route: use her Rose Quartz persona to lead a rebellion so everyone else could be free. She couldn't stop the colony as Pink, because Blue and Yellow would have stepped in. But if there was a "rebel" going against her, she could try and handle it herself. Eventually, she decided that Rose was who she really was and that she felt most like "herself" as Rose. So our Rose is Pink Diamond deciding to live a life free of the caste system where she can love Earth and others.
However, her plan to fake her death, live as Rose Quartz, and use Pink Diamond's death to end the rebellion backfired. Instead of Blue and Yellow just leaving, they and White took revenge and killed/corrupted nearly all of Rose's friends and allies as they left. Pink thought Blue and Yellow didn't care about her, so they wouldn't be that upset if she disappeared. It turns out they did love her very much...and their mournful rage cost thousands of lives.
So Rose used to be Pink Diamond, but PD decided that Rose Quartz was who she really was. You might say.... a Rose by another name would smell just as sweet. (Oh god i'm sorry.)
She probably tried to convince Blue and Yellow to leave Earth alone, but when they refused, she decided another route: use her Rose Quartz persona to lead a rebellion so everyone else could be free. She couldn't stop the colony as Pink, because Blue and Yellow would have stepped in. But if there was a "rebel" going against her, she could try and handle it herself. Eventually, she decided that Rose was who she really was and that she felt most like "herself" as Rose. So our Rose is Pink Diamond deciding to live a life free of the caste system where she can love Earth and others.
However, her plan to fake her death, live as Rose Quartz, and use Pink Diamond's death to end the rebellion backfired. Instead of Blue and Yellow just leaving, they and White took revenge and killed/corrupted nearly all of Rose's friends and allies as they left. Pink thought Blue and Yellow didn't care about her, so they wouldn't be that upset if she disappeared. It turns out they did love her very much...and their mournful rage cost thousands of lives.
So Rose used to be Pink Diamond, but PD decided that Rose Quartz was who she really was. You might say.... a Rose by another name would smell just as sweet. (Oh god i'm sorry.)
They also might have let her safe earth if she had just told them that's what she wanted, Blue seemed to be upset with Pink making excuses, if she had been honest the reaction could have been different.
so if ruby and sapphire were far away and got corrupted leaving only pink and pearl (and eventually amethyst) would pearl still need to keep that secret.
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7 year old Steven breaks gets a full body x-ray for some reason, gems are there, garnet absorbs how weird that the gem is phoned downwards in a diamond shape.
Yeah, the different layers here are pretty staggering.
That said, as I have been saying for years, this sets up Jasper-demption in the ONLY way it could have possibly worked. Same with Bismuth-demption.
The promo video that aired immediately should make me sad and worried. It does, but considering some merch leaks, it makes me happy it's taking this route.
Ruby and Sapphire have a huge, massive fight and Sapphire runs away. They eventually make up....and decide to get "married" after Steven suggests it. That's where those Ruby in a wedding dress and Sapphire in a tux key chains were from! The marriage is them renewing their vows and we don't see Garnet again until Ruby and Sapphire say "I do."
Pink: "After all of this we can be together."
*Falls in love with a human a thousand years later*
Holy shit, this is even more insane levels of sadness for Pearl than we thought. Pearl REALLY struggled with a lot more then we realized. And her song "It's over isn't it" really takes on a more powerful meaning.
*Falls in love with a human a thousand years later*
Holy shit, this is even more insane levels of sadness for Pearl than we thought. Pearl REALLY struggled with a lot more then we realized. And her song "It's over isn't it" really takes on a more powerful meaning.
Was not expecting that reveal when I sat down for dinner and a DVR'd episode. Very surprised and pleased.
And the levels of tragedy that PD might have been able to find a better way to do her own thing instead of ending up with however many gems shattered and corrupted is indeed sad. Rose came off as a very impulsive gem who kind of let problems pile up to deal with later (or never), but I didn't think it was THIS bad.
Wow. Just fucking wow. O.O
I didn't realize until you all started talking about it how fucked up Rose's actions really are in the grander scheme. It was never simply about freeing the crystal gems from tyranny and keeping the people of earth safe. It was literally a teenager's rebellion against her family to have her own freedom. In the process of doing this, thousands of gems were taken out. Pearl, the person closest to her through it all and the only one willing to follow her no matter what gets pushed to the sideline when Greg shows up too.
Just....god damn.
Just....god damn.
Even worse when you consider she left her son to deal with the mess she left behind as a result of her impulsive desires. This twist really makes Rose/Pink out to be even more selfish than we possibly thought.
I wonder if Rose knew about the Cluster plans, or if those plans existed for other planets. Or were clusters made explicitly because of the rebellion.
Rose Quartz the war criminal.
Rose Quartz the war criminal.
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yeah that episodes gonna be fucking adorable and I can't wait
Hey, remember what Steven was crying out in Mindful Education as he was falling? "I never wanted to hurt anyone! I'm sorry!"
His mom did the exact same fucking thing, but on a cosmic and millennial scale. She tried to do what she thought was best and kind for those in need and those oppressed. She was right to recognize injustice, but her actions made it all blow up in her face. She had good intentions, but immature and blinded by her love for Earth, Pearl, and others. She also valued herself so little as a Diamond that she though Blue and Yellow wouldn't care if she was gone. She ended up hurting whom she loved by doing an action that she thought was the best route. Just like how Connie was hurt that Steven would just give himself up to Aquamarine and Topaz.
I wonder how bad they will make ... look now. There are several directions that can be taken here.
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I'm hoping she didn't know about that, and the Diamonds only did it to be rid of the Earth which was nothing but bad memories at that point. If she knew about the Cluster or the corruption beam, it makes it even worse that she started the rebellion the way she did. I could see her being out of the loop due to being the baby/immature one.
Clusters were probably used as a tactic before Earth since the other diamonds had multiple colonies before Pink.
I honestly think on Rose,
Just my thoughts.
and I've thought this for a while, she's essentially the image of an activist peace-bringer. She is 'selfish', but in a selfless way... If that makes sense. Probably her biggest issue is her need for secrecy, often secrets can lead to others assuming the worst about a person when it's discovered. The reason she hid all of this from the Crystal Gems, the Diamonds, etc., all makes sense. Of course also how she's dumped all of this responsibility onto Steven himself (and onto Pearl). Steven has been struggling with the thought of his mom being less than perfect. And there's so many ways it can make her look bad.
But in the end, I think Rose made the right choice on nearly every front to the best that she could do. 'Destroying' Pink Diamond was important for both Gems and the planet Earth. She wanted to create a world where gems could live as themselves rather than hierarchy, and that Earth shown as a light for how life can blossom, the good and bad of it all, but how beautiful it was. She wanted to send a message of peace during an era of war, a war that was in many ways her own design, but was the only answer to what may eventually lead to peace. Steven she didn't mean to leave him with these huge responsibilities, but she fell in love with Greg and they wanted to have a child and this was the only way to accomplish that.
I think Rose was just a woman who actively did what was necessary to bring love and life to existence. It's very easy for the other characters to blame her. Her secrecy and hiding so many things, and the exacts of what she's hiding, is so easy to read into as maliciousness. People often can get suspicious of big acts of supposed kindness sprinkled with self-gain and darker methods. But I do fully believe all of it was done with the best intentions, was the best choice she could make from her positions, and ultimately did all of this for love and life.
I do look forward to the Crystal Gems and the Diamonds settling with this news, which sure is going to lead to a lot of things.
But in the end, I think Rose made the right choice on nearly every front to the best that she could do. 'Destroying' Pink Diamond was important for both Gems and the planet Earth. She wanted to create a world where gems could live as themselves rather than hierarchy, and that Earth shown as a light for how life can blossom, the good and bad of it all, but how beautiful it was. She wanted to send a message of peace during an era of war, a war that was in many ways her own design, but was the only answer to what may eventually lead to peace. Steven she didn't mean to leave him with these huge responsibilities, but she fell in love with Greg and they wanted to have a child and this was the only way to accomplish that.
I think Rose was just a woman who actively did what was necessary to bring love and life to existence. It's very easy for the other characters to blame her. Her secrecy and hiding so many things, and the exacts of what she's hiding, is so easy to read into as maliciousness. People often can get suspicious of big acts of supposed kindness sprinkled with self-gain and darker methods. But I do fully believe all of it was done with the best intentions, was the best choice she could make from her positions, and ultimately did all of this for love and life.
I do look forward to the Crystal Gems and the Diamonds settling with this news, which sure is going to lead to a lot of things.
Just my thoughts.
Just checked it out and DAYUM
Funniliy enough it keeps her in line of what we thought of Pink after her reveal (bratty, seemingly impulsive) but it brought down Rose quartz by a bunch as a result. Now i get why Pearl was the way she was especially in Rose's Scabbard, but then when you think about it did she almost let her diamond die :O
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Oh shit, remember when Pearl flipped out in Rose's Scabbard when she found out Lion belonged to Rose. Garnet said Rose kept secrets from everyone, and Pearl replied "But not from me!"
Turns out she had a very good freaking reason to think Rose would never keep anything from her. She's the only one who knew Rose's biggest secret: that she was Pink Diamond.
But if Rose trusted Pearl with her biggest secret, then why did she keep Lion secret? Was it a way to store Bismuth? Was it to store the chest?
What's in the chest?! What's in the fuckingbox chest?!
But if Rose trusted Pearl with her biggest secret, then why did she keep Lion secret? Was it a way to store Bismuth? Was it to store the chest?
What's in the chest?! What's in the fucking
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