Next seasons should be interesting on how they set Quake as the de facto main character.
Would love for Hunter and Mockingbird to come back.
Would love for Hunter and Mockingbird to come back.
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Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 |OT| Six Seasons and a Seventh
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I think I need their dynamic back if Coulson and May are both gone for the majority of the season.
We knew that back when he called Yo-Yo "Speedy Gonzales" lol
#NeverForget
Frozen Fitz is out there hanging out in space, waiting to wake up.
The one that froze himself in time to see them in the future to begin with.
Since the team went back in time, Fitz is still in space.
And since time changed, he's basically up there for nothing.
Got it. Damn, that's great.
The Fitz who experienced the second half of the season died, but in the show's present there's the frozen Fitz in space who doesn't know about Deke or the wedding or any of it yet.
Now that they know time can be changed, they can pull him out of it, since the world didn't blow up. I think the logic is that they had to leave him on ice until after the future changed.
I get it now, thanks for the explanation everyone, much appreciated.
So Fitz slept through 100 years, woke up in the future, went back in time with the group, and since they are back in present day, there's still frozen Fitz out there going to the future. So if we say hypothetically Fitz went back to present day through another 100 years, there wouldn't be another Fitz, since the one who slept through a 100 years in the first place went back in time. But because he went back in time through the monolith there's still a frozen Fitz out in space.
They broke the loop, so Jemma pretty much said fuck it, might as well try, it'll correct itself somehow, etc. etc.
They broke the loop, the world didn't get destroyed, so Frozen Fitz doesn't need to wake up in 2090 to then go back in time to help break the loop.
Now, if they didn't break the loop, Dead Fitz survives Chicago, dies at some point before 2090 at which point Frozen Fitz wakes up again and on and on.
But time travel is weird.
Yeah and even if it's a causal loop, as long as they don't break the hibernation chamber to do it, they can fix it even more efficiently now by waking fitz and telling him everything clearly and, for example, not letting Talbot get activated by Hydra.
It's not speed force bad but yeah its definitely weird.
I'm surprised Enoch hasn't been helping them out already this whole time.
That future ceased to exists anyway when they managed to prevent the world from shattering by defeating Graviton in the end, so pulling Fitz out of the stasis pod won't be a problem
Was pretty disappointed with the final fight with talbot, quite underwhelming! I know they don't have a lot of budget, but still!
Otherwise the episode was nice, wish we would have an other reference to avengers
Otherwise the episode was nice, wish we would have an other reference to avengers
For real. This whole Fitz replacement thing is Rick and Morty levels of dark.
S6 being in the summer might be an indication that they can sidestep the events of IW and A4. Which is probably for the best.
Finding Fitz shouldn't be easy, since Enoch had to hide him somewhere no one would find him for 90 years. I doubt he is just floating in Earth's orbit. Enoch could be in "sleep" mode and not know that the time loop was broken.
They actually established in the show that Enoch is awake and making sure that Fitz' reputation is strong when he awakens so he can get into Kasius' inner circle.
I mean, they could. Nothing stops them from doing that. But the impact is lessened a bit, to me, personally.
We'll already know exactly how it ends up being resolved in A4. While we know it will be resolved, we don't know how until Avengers 4.
I wouldn't be angry but it makes more sense if they line up together.
My main point against that is that I think, and this is having not read any Avengers 4 spoilers yet, is that Avengers 4 may feature some radical things possibly even with SHIELD immediately following Avengers 3 and that having Agents of SHIELD air before Avengers 4 is out may "spoil" what happens to the world after.
Unlikely we'll get Mockingbird back since The Orville is getting a second season.
Forgot about that. In that case, it does make sense for him to just bring him back or they'll have to come up with a reason for Enoch to not know or someone else find them first, if they want a "search for Fitz" episode or arc.
I was just re-watching this, and noticed a particular part of the episode that kinda explains what was different with this timeline. I know some have had a difficult time trying to decipher what exactly changed the events in time.
During the scene where Daisy gives off control of Shield to Mack, Coulson makes an appearance and states that Yo-Yo "didn't go through that for nothing", which confirms that Yo-Yo debating about letting Coulson die is the reason that he sneaks the centipede serum into Daisy's gauntlets instead of taking it himself. He even hands Daisy the gauntlets right after saying that. So the difference is that Yo-Yo convinced Coulson to not take it because he believes it'll doom humanity, so he hides them on Daisy with the expectation that she uses it. It was not because a character injected it into him when he was unconscious or anything like that.
Also, while Mack really ticked me off this season with how he behaved with the whole Ruby situation, his actor (Henry Simmons) killed it in the scene where Fitz dies. Of course he plays second fiddle to Ian (the best actor on the show bar none), but it's not easy to portray the level of sadness that Mack had during that moment, while simultaneously acting as if nothing is wrong as to not worry Fitz. It's a fine line and Henry played it perfectly.
I'm going to miss this show a hell of a lot for the next year, but look forward to being a part of the re-watch group here. I also have a couple groups on Youtube who I've been watching react to season 1, and it's nice to re-live it a bit through their eyes.
During the scene where Daisy gives off control of Shield to Mack, Coulson makes an appearance and states that Yo-Yo "didn't go through that for nothing", which confirms that Yo-Yo debating about letting Coulson die is the reason that he sneaks the centipede serum into Daisy's gauntlets instead of taking it himself. He even hands Daisy the gauntlets right after saying that. So the difference is that Yo-Yo convinced Coulson to not take it because he believes it'll doom humanity, so he hides them on Daisy with the expectation that she uses it. It was not because a character injected it into him when he was unconscious or anything like that.
Also, while Mack really ticked me off this season with how he behaved with the whole Ruby situation, his actor (Henry Simmons) killed it in the scene where Fitz dies. Of course he plays second fiddle to Ian (the best actor on the show bar none), but it's not easy to portray the level of sadness that Mack had during that moment, while simultaneously acting as if nothing is wrong as to not worry Fitz. It's a fine line and Henry played it perfectly.
I'm going to miss this show a hell of a lot for the next year, but look forward to being a part of the re-watch group here. I also have a couple groups on Youtube who I've been watching react to season 1, and it's nice to re-live it a bit through their eyes.
Rewatch thread is up.
I'm horrible at titles and just about everything is subject to change if you think something should be handled differently!
I'm horrible at titles and just about everything is subject to change if you think something should be handled differently!
It felt more anime than Matrix - but the best parts of the Matrix were influenced by anime I guess. Launching Talbot into space of a Vegeta move.
I think I'd trust this VFX team and writers with live-action Dragonball (with a big budget - x10 what we have now probably). They would do good work.
Unless I'm horribly behind on timeline theory, Daredevil is years behind on the MCU timeline. It could still happen.