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Pokémon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu (Switch) announced; coming Nov 16th 2018
- Thread starter Xavi
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Bol.com is pretty awful with game prices, I don't recall ordering a game there, ever. I expect it to be 49/50 elsewhere, same thing happened with Kirby.
Messaging about this game is a bit off. From the press release:
" Pokémon also announced that the next introduction to its popular core RPG series, which was teased last year at E3, will arrive in late 2019 on Nintendo Switch for the first time."
The popular core RPG series will arive on Switch in late 2019 for the first time. At the same time they also say that this is mainline.
" Pokémon also announced that the next introduction to its popular core RPG series, which was teased last year at E3, will arrive in late 2019 on Nintendo Switch for the first time."
The popular core RPG series will arive on Switch in late 2019 for the first time. At the same time they also say that this is mainline.
It is impressive that after all these years, the series is now growing again :
So 600k in France in relation with :
D/P was at 480k in day one shipment in France at the time (in a console that sold 10m units in France alone, the Switch is around 1.1m-1.2m today)
They are very confident
So 600k in France in relation with :
D/P was at 480k in day one shipment in France at the time (in a console that sold 10m units in France alone, the Switch is around 1.1m-1.2m today)
They are very confident
It was all but confirmed when we knew it would be let's go pikachu/let's go eevee. Trainer in the screenshot has an eevee on their head.
And yet, when GO released they didn't hesitate to spend 250$+ for a 3DS and games.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...ouble-in-us-retail-following-pokemon-go-craze
These are some pretty high expectations for the game regardless. It looked a bit shallow from the trailer - hoping to find that there's enough depth in there to warrant these numbers
That's reassuring and everything I wanted to hear.
I was worried this was going to be our Pokémon moving forward and it would have been sad for me to drop the franchise after keeping up with it for years, but as an adult I just cannot enjoy the go implementation and dumbed down mechanic and stripped down features. I expect more from Pokémon switch and not less.
As terrible as I know it is, I want this game to bomb, just so GF stick with how it always been and not start to cater to dumbed down and trendy mobile philosophy.
They're trying to have it both ways. If it was just a spin-off a lot of people would ignore it, but if they said it was a mainline game then more traditional fans would get angry at them. So they're trying to have it both ways by saying it's a mainline game, but it's not a mainline-mainline game.
It's pretty clear imo that this is what they are going for. I remember reading a quote in which they said that "Let's Go was a core RPG for everyone" while the 2019 titles was a "core RPG for the traditional fanbase." Which makes sense: this game is styled like a mainline pokémon game, made by Gamefreak, and features the traditional battle system. Little reason not to call it mainline at the risk of positioning it as just a spinoff.
According to marketing, yes (if they said that it was outright a spin off most people would ignore it). According to the information that can be read between lines, wait for the 2019 titles.
Gosh what is wrong with you people ?
They already said that the games next year won't be influenced by GO.
Is it impossible/unthinkable to have a more accessible game to help GO players, kids, lapsed players, family demographic to enjoy and discover the world of Pokemon ?
2D Mario didn't threaten 3D Mario despite selling way more during the Wii era. It is infuriating to read all these entitled comments knowing that a lot of new players are enthousiastic about the games and a craving to discover the franchise.
Call me st*pid but I don't know how to create a new thread (maybe I can´t), but I'm going to post here that new information, because of this new pokémon who is coming that we don't know.
I read a lot of people claming for Gorochu in LGP/LGE and we were happy when we discovered other designs. Now someone have hacked a special demo from Pokémon Gold and he discovered new Pokémon (and the most significant to me: some pokés had different designs).
Info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Bpw-SO76uZt6WNSl0UsD5yq_dI/htmlview?sle=true#
List of Pokés: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Bpw-SO76uZt6WNSl0UsD5yq_dI/htmlview?sle=true#
Could be any of these our new friend? I don't think so but it's curious.
I read a lot of people claming for Gorochu in LGP/LGE and we were happy when we discovered other designs. Now someone have hacked a special demo from Pokémon Gold and he discovered new Pokémon (and the most significant to me: some pokés had different designs).
Info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Bpw-SO76uZt6WNSl0UsD5yq_dI/htmlview?sle=true#
List of Pokés: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Bpw-SO76uZt6WNSl0UsD5yq_dI/htmlview?sle=true#
Could be any of these our new friend? I don't think so but it's curious.
https://i1.wp.com//wp-content/uploads/2018/05/pokemon-gold-silver-spaceworld-leak-full.jpg?resize=768%2C1451&ssl=1
Ok cool. This is not what I want the series to be. I don't care if it's a spin off but no wild Pokémon fights?
This potentially answers one of the questions I had, which was what Nintendo and TPC expected these games to sell. This implies that they're expecting it to sell similarly to recent mainline entries. It could gives us a rough idea of what success or failure looks like for these games.
You should note that Sun Moon shipped way more than X/Y did day one, while X/Y sold more than SunMoon worldwide, so it's not 1-to-1 comparable I feel.
I hope they keep some of the let's go changes for the 2019 game as they might actually be positive. I like the idea of wild pokemon roaming around.
Wasn't it also rumoured that the battle system would be revamped and potentially be real time? I can't see that being the case in Let's go, perhaps its the case for the 2019 game?
You call it dumbed down I call it trimming the fat. GF is closely going to follow the perception of this game, and of people react positively to no random battles and the Go capturing mechanic, you can bet on it that those things are going to be in the 2019 title.
GF is testing the waters with this game.
It is not a spin-off, it is a mainline game (a remake but not a new gen).
You still have the same fighting system, you can trade and battle locally and online. There is an evil team : team Rocket.
The change of the classic formula are the following :
- Wild Pokemon are now visible in the overworld. By touching them, you can catch them by throwing a ball without weakening them beforehead (a la Safari).
- Local Co-op. Some one can join you and you'll face the trainers in double battles.
- Ridable Pokemon/following Pokemon are back. You can mount an Onyx/Charizard in the overworld or have smaller Pokemon like Gengar follow you.
Worth noting, they're expecting it to sell similarly to recent mainline series but much earlier in the system's lifecycle.
It'd be more interesting to see comparison to how much X/Y shipped than Sun/Moon.
That's why I was careful to not state anything definite. It's one thing that could or could not be suggestive of what Nintendo expects. And what Nintendo expects may not be what happens. I was just really curious as to what the expectation for these games were and this is the first thing that could give us an idea of what that is.
Removing gameplay elements without a sufficient replacement isn't trimming the fat. It is dumbing down.
X/Y shipped 4m WW at launch (2 days).
It sold 125k in France in a week. S/M sold 425k in its first week with the same shipment as LGP/LGE.
Cutting things out without replacing them is literally what trimming the fat means dude. They don't call it "replacing the fat"
It's marketed as one, but competitive scene will stay on US/UM and they already announced "the first core RPG game on Switch" for next year.
Interpret it as you wish.
Lies. Mega Evos would be great, especially if they all were technically available at the start. Why? Mega Evos would actually make using stuff like Beedrill viable. Beedrill is completely garbage, but having Mega Beedrill available? That would give it an actual shot. And the best thing is, crazy as it would be, it would probably actually be fairly balanced if it were available. Because on the one hand, yeah, it would be a lot stronger and faster than pretty much everything else available. But it would also still very much be a glass-cannon. And it's typing is still bad both defensively and offensively. And it's movepool is incredibly shallow. and it's a terrible matchup for Brock in particular. So it has all that standing against it. But having its Mega Form available would balance that out just enough for you to be able to use it against Brock and beat the odds if you really want to, and that would be cool, in my mind. And not having that option at all, and just being stuck with normal, wimpy Beedrill instead makes me a sad panda. :(
A core gameplay element isn't "trimming the fat".
Removing redundant items is trimming the fat. Removing useless elements is trimming the fat
No Mega Evolutions, but Regional Forms seem to live on, I like it
Personally I always found It tedious and annoying, yeah I know there's repel, but I don't always want to use repel, and I don't want to see zubats and pidgeys every 3 seconds. It's also tedious to try and not kill a pokemon so you can catch it.
I also don't think that you're going to catch every pokemon like this, you're definitely going to battle Mewtwo going by the dramatic scenes in the trailer.
They might do something with trainers to make up for the wild battles being gone, maybe there will be more of them, rebattling them would be nice too.
I'm curious to see more.
Was Pokemon capturing before basically Quina FF9's Eat but for the entire game? Because if so, that can be dumbed down and fat reduced to the maximum.
Not everything needs to be awesome endgame badasses. Beedrill has a lower level requirement to evolve so it has its uses just like Butterfree. Besides, you can beat the game with any Pokemon. I beat the E4 with Butterfree in the original games and bugs were terrible back then.
There are no evolutions of gen 1 pokemon from other gens. Which means no Crobat or Espeon for instance.
But they still squeezed Alolan Forms in there, I like it
Yea yea, I know it was probably just so they could say there's at least one Dark type Pokemon in the game.
You are free to your opinion and I am free to mine, it's not entitlement to want improvements and more features from a next generation game and not less, else I won't buy as simple as that, I am free to be disappointed and if you are excited about it, good for you I don't have to feel or react the same way you do. Crazy concept, I know.
It's naive to think that if this versions is a huge success they won't follow the same formula in the future, maybe not for the next year one (after all this game is testing the water) but perhaps for what's yet to come. Corporate follows money it's as simple as that and thus my comment (which regardless I knew it wasn't nice and I said as much) but I feel what I feel and again I am free to do so and express it.
The argument for kids accessibility is laughable, I played Pokémon as a kid and as of now my nieces who are 6 years old and are playing just fine as well. And so far from the sales on all of these years kids all over the world were playing Pokémon with no issues. Pokémon has always been accessible and family friendly, removing features doesn't make it more so. No reasons to remove Pokémon battles and breeding, they are rooted in the concept of the game.
Anyhow, removing features that have been part of the franchise from the beginning is reason enough for me to worry for the future as well as following a more mobile phone games formula and be disappointed, so get off your high horses please and drop the unnecessary name calling and higher than thou attitude.
I guess it then becomes subjective. Some may find the random encounters and wild battles redundant, some obviously don't.