Dark Souls: Remastered |OT| The Dark Souls of remasters

Guppeth said:

I just killed Quelaag and I haven't raised my shield since that arrow blocking tutorial in Undead Asylum. I think it's because my last game was Monster Hunter: World and the only From game I've played is Bloodborne. Is it feasible to clear the whole game like this, or is there an upcoming boss who'll force me to learn to block?

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Dark Souls has gotten a weird reputation that shield and sword is the only viable way to beat the game, but it couldn't be farther from the truth.
If you aren't using a shield you can just unequip it to lessen your equip load, or equip something like the grass crest shield that boosts stamina regen, and just two hand your weapon all the time.

Sooo beat Prepare to Die edition as a strong fat faith boi heavy shield Divine Mace / Dragon's Tooth. Loved it, this is my second time completing it and man what a ride. Couldn't get the remaster cause I work on a ship and pay for meager amount of data.

But...today I got off the ship and hit up a restaurant and downloaded the remaster and my copy of Pillars 2. Place had 200Mbs connection bloodly lovely.

Now trying to decide do i finish Pillars 1, or jump into the Remaster for at least Undead Burg. Thinking a magic/dex user this time I've only done magic once during my current Dark Souls 2 run where I'm going magic/strength two handed ultra great sword glass cannon style and enjoying that.

Desicions desicions....

Many years after I first started it I finally finished this game including the DLC. Dropped the original game first at Capra Demon and a while later on another attempt at O&S.

Game still holds up very well after all this time. Only aspect From definitely improved are the bosses. DS1 bosses are still mostly good with a few standouts (O&S, Artorias, Manus, Gwyn) but I think the overall boss quality is higher and more consistent in BB and DS3.

Now I have beaten every Soulsborne content except Demons Souls (Bluepoint remake pls) and the DS2 DLC.

iRAWRasaurus said:

Yeah I just got kicked from PSN. Eastern USA btw.

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Ferrs said:

Keep getting kicked from DS servers every time I try to play.

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Same here, everytime I play after around a minute. So frustrating.

London UK, app v1.2 reg v1.3

Just got to the bit with the archers in Anor Londo. I gave it a fair shake but it's clear to me that Miyazaki doesn't intend for me to go any further so I have now uninstalled the game and will forever vehemently attack any fool that ever claims it's better than Bloodborne.

Netherlands here, no problems with PSN so far.

Guppeth said:

I just killed Quelaag and I haven't raised my shield since that arrow blocking tutorial in Undead Asylum. I think it's because my last game was Monster Hunter: World and the only From game I've played is Bloodborne. Is it feasible to clear the whole game like this, or is there an upcoming boss who'll force me to learn to block?

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On the contrary. I have played most of the game blocking things and the bosses have forced me to work on my dodge roll game. That's because basic enemies (usually) deal standard damage, which can be blocked 100% even with the humble heater shield. With a bit of stamina management, you can easily run through levels with your shield up constantly.

But bosses hit a lot harder and often add magic/elemental damage to the mix. I don't think there are shield that 100% block magic/elemental damge. So first you lose a lot of stamina on hit, leading to shield breaks and an opening for the boss to deal major damage. And second, even if you succesfully block, there will always be bleed damage. So you're forced to dodge and learn positioning if you want to get through fights unscathed.

Ironically Quelaag was the first boss that forced me to drop the shield and time my rolls.

Red Liquorice said:

Nope, blocking not needed. Dodging only is totally viable. There is at least one boss who is very susceptable to parrying, but it's not an absolute must.

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I should probably practice parrying. I haven't done it, nor have I been circling for backstabs. I'm just the One Who Rolls.

Parsnip said:

Dark Souls has gotten a weird reputation that shield and sword is the only viable way to beat the game, but it couldn't be farther from the truth.
If you aren't using a shield you can just unequip it to lessen your equip load, or equip something like the grass crest shield that boosts stamina regen, and just two hand your weapon all the time.

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Yeah, I thought I'd struggle to adapt to the slower, more deliberate combat but I just opted out instead.

I'm using that shield but I feel kinda silly rolling and diving with cloth gear and a huge, redundant steel plate on my back. I'm having a great time though.

I beat my first playthrough with a dex build and uchigatana. just two handed it the whole time. Just get to fast roll status and you good. I think I only parried a certain someone because it's so easy. Now I'm full on magic which feels real good.

Going through the DLC right now, it's definitely a step up in difficulty but overall Havel's Set, Ring, and a +15 Zwei is easymode for a lot of bosses. Even Knight Artorias I was able to just smack the shit out of before he burned through my health. That much physical def, poise, AND midroll with the ring is too damn good

Man this remaster is a fucking mess.


He grabbed me and then bugged into the ceiling. While I posted this he eventually died by himself for some reason.

Environment-boxes just seem messed up in many, many places. I got stuck 5 times already in 3 different places. Many paths you could walk up before, you now are forced down.

Guppeth said:

I just killed Quelaag and I haven't raised my shield since that arrow blocking tutorial in Undead Asylum. I think it's because my last game was Monster Hunter: World and the only From game I've played is Bloodborne. Is it feasible to clear the whole game like this, or is there an upcoming boss who'll force me to learn to block?

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Nah. You can play the entire game without a shield. It's harder though, especially for new players, but if you're a BB and MonHun vet you'll be OK.

Red Liquorice said:

Nope, blocking not needed. Dodging only is totally viable. There is at least one boss who is very susceptable to parrying, but it's not an absolute must.

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He could also just use a parrying dagger or even his bare hand to parry. Though I've always found the latter to be really silly. Parrying an incoming sword or spear attack with your hand, really now?

Markitron said:

Just got to the bit with the archers in Anor Londo. I gave it a fair shake but it's clear to me that Miyazaki doesn't intend for me to go any further so I have now uninstalled the game and will forever vehemently attack any fool that ever claims it's better than Bloodborne.

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FWIW, that's an iconic bit of design that, though frustrating is also beautiful in it's own way. It is just very memorable.

OT, it's very doable with a bit of focus and practice. Run straight up the walkway and turn the corner. Don't put up your shield until you round the bend. Once you are there the other archer can't hit you and you can kill the silver knight.

I don't miss the shield when playing BB, but in Dark Souls (all of them) I really like keeping a 100 physical shield up just for safety. I think it's a lingering habit from the first time I did Blighttown and Sen's, which - if you don't know what's next, like I do this time - really encourages moving with your shield raised. Against bosses it's also a nice layer of safety if you miss a roll.

Markitron said:

Just got to the bit with the archers in Anor Londo. I gave it a fair shake but it's clear to me that Miyazaki doesn't intend for me to go any further so I have now uninstalled the game and will forever vehemently attack any fool that ever claims it's better than Bloodborne.

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If I told you it was as simple as running up the archways, charging the knight of the right (roll if he fires an arrow), and parrying him when he pulls out his sword to attack, would you install it again.

The shit used to kill me all of the time to no end until, well, I learned. I learned how the enemies acted and I took advantage of it. Now it's as simple as what I described above. Hell, after I kill the knight on the right, I go back and kill the knight on the left. Because I don't like silver knights. I killed them all in DS3. And not just the men, but the women. And the children too. They're like animals, so I slaughtered them likes animals. I hate them.

So Manus is pretty hard...

Morrigan said:

Nah. You can play the entire game without a shield. It's harder though, especially for new players, but if you're a BB and MonHun vet you'll be OK.

He could also just use a parrying dagger or even his bare hand to parry. Though I've always found the latter to be really silly. Parrying an incoming sword or spear attack with your hand, really now?

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Yeah that's some Jedi shit. A wee dagger sounds cool though.

Van Bur3n said:

If I told you it was as simple as running up the archways, charging the knight of the right (roll if he fires an arrow), and parrying him when he pulls out his sword to attack, would you install it again.

The shit used to kill me all of the time to no end until, well, I learned. I learned how the enemies acted and I took advantage of it. Now it's as simple as what I described above. Hell, after I kill the knight on the right, I go back and kill the knight on the left. Because I don't like silver knights. I killed them all in DS3. And not just the men, but the women. And the children too. They're like animals, so I slaughtered them likes animals. I hate them.

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On the plus side, there's very little sand in this game so far.

lol ^

Spinky said:

So Manus is pretty hard...

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Try him at SL1. (Actually don't. I still have nightmares. My shaking hands...)

Dracul said:

Ash Lake really is one of the most haunting places i've ever visitef in a video game. The atmosphere, music all gives me the chills.

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Seconded.


I fucking love these games and will be incredibly sad when I get bored with them. They literally restarted my interest in gaming but that's a topic for another time.

Zukuu said:

Man this remaster is a fucking mess.

He grabbed me and then bugged into the ceiling. While I posted this he eventually died by himself for some reason.

Environment-boxes just seem messed up in many, many places. I got stuck 5 times already in 3 different places. Many paths you could walk up before, you now are forced down.

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The Black Knight in the Parish tried to path find his way down his tower and apparently spontaneously combusted at some point during the journey

That Naive Cube!! said:

Spoiler: Area Spoilers

And the fact that you can see it from the Tomb of the Giants is incredible. It's From's clever way of telling you "there is another area". Why? Because you can also see Lost Izalith which you can (must) go to. What's more it that you can also clearly see the Great Hollow too which serves as thefinal clue of how to get there.

From is the best at subtly hinting at shit. Like when you read the Darkmoon Seance ring description, it tells you that Gyndolin is the last remaining deity in Anor Londo. It's From hinting that something is up with the Gynevere you meet in the game

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Sigh

Just reading this makes me want to buy the remaster and play through Dark Souls again. I love the shit they do in this game

I started playing souls games with Bloodborne and got hooked, finished it first. Then finished 3 and the remaster a few days ago. now I am back playing the beginning of Dark Souls 2, but the atmosphere and animations of the main character are so different, you can really feel it is made by a different team. I made it through the beginning and now I am invested enough to keep playing, but I am wondering if the locations , enemy design and atmosphere ever reach the heights of the other three games... anyone care to motivate me without spoiling? thanks! :)

Sephzilla said:

Sigh

Just reading this makes me want to buy the remaster and play through Dark Souls again. I love the shit they do in this game

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I highly recommend watching the Youtube playthroughs of a guy called Aegon of Astora. He has lorethroughs of most of the souls games which really shows you how much goes into these games.

Spinky said:

So Manus is pretty hard...

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He is. Highest health boss in the game, and he is very aggressive. Take your time, come with 20 estus. I've only beaten him once in the 360 a few years ago. My most personally hated DS1 boss after Demon Firesage (I had more difficult on him than on Capra, O&S, Seath, Nito, and Bed of Chaos for some reason).

cyba89 said:

Now I have beaten every Soulsborne content except Demons Souls (Bluepoint remake pls) and the DS2 DLC.

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All the chalice bosses?

th1nk said:

I started playing souls games with Bloodborne and got hooked, finished it first. Then finished 3 and the remaster a few days ago. now I am back playing the beginning of Dark Souls 2, but the atmosphere and animations of the main character are so different, you can really feel it is made by a different team. I made it through the beginning and now I am invested enough to keep playing, but I am wondering if the locations , enemy design and atmosphere ever reach the heights of the other three games... anyone care to motivate me without spoiling? thanks! :)

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Play Dark Souls 2 for yourself. That's what I would recommend.

Play it (and any game for that matter) until you consistently stop having fun.

th1nk said:

I started playing souls games with Bloodborne and got hooked, finished it first. Then finished 3 and the remaster a few days ago. now I am back playing the beginning of Dark Souls 2, but the atmosphere and animations of the main character are so different, you can really feel it is made by a different team. I made it through the beginning and now I am invested enough to keep playing, but I am wondering if the locations , enemy design and atmosphere ever reach the heights of the other three games... anyone care to motivate me without spoiling? thanks! :)

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IMO it's a little worse in all of those things than the rest of the series, but still worth playing and a lot better than most other games tbh.

Spinky said:

So Manus is pretty hard...

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I thought so too at first.

Completely manageable even his magic attacks.

PM me if you need help. The key to this fight is knowing how close you can be to him.

Markitron said:

Just got to the bit with the archers in Anor Londo. I gave it a fair shake but it's clear to me that Miyazaki doesn't intend for me to go any further so I have now uninstalled the game and will forever vehemently attack any fool that ever claims it's better than Bloodborne.

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Right. Made myself some tea, calmed down a bit popped the disc back to reinstall and had another go. Got it the first time. Then I went thru the cathedral and beat the double boss on my first try. The fat one was slower so I left him till last. We killed each other at the same time. Woke up at the bonfire and got a message saying victory achieved.

Best game ever.

Edit: incase that sounded braggy, after leaving the bonfire I was killed by the knight at the bottom of the stairs and lost 60k souls

Manus sniffs his own farts.

th1nk said:

I started playing souls games with Bloodborne and got hooked, finished it first. Then finished 3 and the remaster a few days ago. now I am back playing the beginning of Dark Souls 2, but the atmosphere and animations of the main character are so different, you can really feel it is made by a different team. I made it through the beginning and now I am invested enough to keep playing, but I am wondering if the locations , enemy design and atmosphere ever reach the heights of the other three games... anyone care to motivate me without spoiling? thanks! :)

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While I generally agree with the common criticisms of Dark Souls 2 (weakest soulsborne game, easiest, etc.) it still has plenty of memorable fights, some very cool areas (the docks in particular is a standout, like a maritime Blighttown without the toxic blowpipes and random framerate drops), and some clever tricks up its sleeve. Its world design isn't as put together as 1, because it's structured more like a hub that branches into a set of non-interconnected arms, but it harkens back to Demon's Souls in a way. It's also the game that makes the most out of the series coop system. As long as the game is populated, try to summon and be summoned at every boss.

Art direction-wise it deserves some credit for being willing to utilize sunlight. It means you can't have the dramatic tonal shift of Dark Souls 1 when you arrive in Anor Londo after spending hours under an overcast sky or underground, but it allows for more variation in how areas are illuminated, and makes the difference between outside, inside and underground feel a lot more tangible.

Going Dragon Bone Fist with tons of STR build. Just fought Hydra and ripped all his fuckin heads off with UPPERCUTS. Im cool

I was also fighting super smough and uppercutted right into his fat bhole as he was trying to lightning sit on my face with his lightning smash. I somehow survived.

Feels great to relive DS1 again!

Markitron said:

Right. Made myself some tea, calmed down a bit popped the disc back to reinstall and had another go. Got it the first time. Then I went thru the cathedral and beat the double boss on my first try. The fat one was slower so I left him till last. We killed each other at the same time. Woke up at the bonfire and got a message saying victory achieved.

Best game ever.

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That is amazing and congratulations!

Also just reminded me of how I had my first ever similar experience of dying to a boss just as I killed it.

Planned on joining the Darkwraith Covenant from the start so I had to fight the Four Kings relatively underleveled. First run was bad with how low my dps was. Got surrounded and destroyed. Tried using a gold pine resin on the next run to see if that would be better. It was but I fucked up the timing of dodging the grab attacks. Was down to one last resin and remembered I had Power Within.

So I used both on the next run and did way better. But as I got to the last king, a delivery I was expecting came, so I had to get the door! Since I was close to winning, I just started mashing R1 even though I had like a fourth of my lifebar left and my stamina was draining quick. Got the last couple of hits in and initiated the cutscene of it dying just as it swung at me. I got up the moment the cinematic started to answer the door.

Came back to my PS4 to see my character back at Firelink. Panicked for a bit, but was soon relieved upon checking my inventory for the Lord Soul. Still had to be careful running back to the abyss to get my souls and talk to Kaathe! Thankfully, nothing screwy happened.

Played all the Soulsborne games multiple times over and I don't recall having that happen to me before. Fun times.

th1nk said:

I started playing souls games with Bloodborne and got hooked, finished it first. Then finished 3 and the remaster a few days ago. now I am back playing the beginning of Dark Souls 2, but the atmosphere and animations of the main character are so different, you can really feel it is made by a different team. I made it through the beginning and now I am invested enough to keep playing, but I am wondering if the locations , enemy design and atmosphere ever reach the heights of the other three games... anyone care to motivate me without spoiling? thanks! :)

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You are in Majoras Mask

Thanks a lot guys! Sorry for the short Dark Souls 2 off-topic, haha! I guess I will try and read the Dark Souls 2 OT from release day as some sort of time capsule to get into the mood! Back to the remaster, I was genuinely surprised how well it holds up from a graphical point of view (especially after playing DS2 before DS1), the art design really shines. I expected a much more basic game, it being the first game. It was a lot of fun seeing AL in Dark Souls 3 first and then getting to it in DS remaster! Put a smile on my face, it works both ways I guess! Praise the sun! :) can't wait for E3...

The Depths is depressing as shit isn't it.

Just a maze of floating turds, rats and bloated frog-flies. It's fucking gross. Can almost smell it.

Markitron said:

Right. Made myself some tea, calmed down a bit popped the disc back to reinstall and had another go. Got it the first time.

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Awesome!

Markitron said:

Then I went thru the cathedral and beat the double boss on my first try. The fat one was slower so I left him till last. We killed each other at the same time. Woke up at the bonfire and got a message saying victory achieved.

Best game ever.

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AWESOME!

Markitron said:

Edit: incase that sounded braggy, after leaving the bonfire I was killed by the knight at the bottom of the stairs and lost 60k souls

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*Evil grin*

Awesome

Bumhead said:

The Depths is depressing as shit isn't it.

Just a maze of floating turds, rats and bloated frog-flies. It's fucking gross. Can almost smell it.

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Wait till you see the statues area

Sephzilla said:

Awesome!



AWESOME!



*Evil grin*

Awesome

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Yea it was a bit of an up and down evening.

Seathe is dead! The first lord I killed.

First tries I stuck to his side, trying to hit the small tails (tentacles?). But eventually he would rampage with them and I couldn't dodge them. What ultimately worked was going full curse resistance and sticking to his stomach (?) area. He could only hit me with the crystals on the ground, but those did almost no damage, allowing me to cut him down with my trusty Iaito.

ClearMetal said:

Seathe is dead! The first lord I killed.

First tries I stuck to his side, trying to hit the small tails (tentacles?). But eventually he would rampage with them and I couldn't dodge them. What ultimately worked was going full curse resistance and sticking to his stomach (?) area. He could only hit me with the crystals on the ground, but those did almost no damage, allowing me to cut him down with my trusty Iaito.

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Well done! His melee attacks can really wreck you. One down three to go...

th1nk said:

I started playing souls games with Bloodborne and got hooked, finished it first. Then finished 3 and the remaster a few days ago. now I am back playing the beginning of Dark Souls 2, but the atmosphere and animations of the main character are so different, you can really feel it is made by a different team. I made it through the beginning and now I am invested enough to keep playing, but I am wondering if the locations , enemy design and atmosphere ever reach the heights of the other three games... anyone care to motivate me without spoiling? thanks! :)

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Having finished DkS2 (except the DLC, which is supposedly superior to the base game), I honestly really liked it. There are valid criticisms and areas and concepts that obviously come up short of what was intended (this criticism applies to a lesser degree to DkS1 as well mind you), but in hindsight I remember a lot of areas in DkS 2 with the same fondness as areas in DkS. Hell, playing the remaster actually is making me consider playing it back through (to do the DLC and because I played it on PS3 originally). I'd say keep an open mind and see what you think. It's a quaint little fucker.

Killed Sif, first try. I took no pleasure in that.

I consider myself lucky she didn't start limping when she was near death.

JMY86 said:

Well done! His melee attacks can really wreck you. One down three to go...

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At first it was the other way around: steer clear of the crystal spikes/laser beam and try to roll through the melee. Funny how the game throws curveballs at you like that.

Then again, I was only wearing the Dusk armor. Maybe you could've survived the melee with a set like Havel's. But then you'd have a hard time outrunning the spikes. I should try that out on a next playthrough...

cyba89 said:

Many years after I first started it I finally finished this game including the DLC. Dropped the original game first at Capra Demon and a while later on another attempt at O&S.

Game still holds up very well after all this time. Only aspect From definitely improved are the bosses. DS1 bosses are still mostly good with a few standouts (O&S, Artorias, Manus, Gwyn) but I think the overall boss quality is higher and more consistent in BB and DS3.

Now I have beaten every Soulsborne content except Demons Souls (Bluepoint remake pls) and the DS2 DLC.

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IMO, the DkS2 DLC contains some of the series' best content. Some of the most infuriating too, but overall it's stuff you don't want to miss.

i think for this next playthrough i'm gonna use the winged spear and put all my points into vitality

Bumhead said:

The Depths is depressing as shit isn't it.

Just a maze of floating turds, rats and bloated frog-flies. It's fucking gross. Can almost smell it.

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Here's an anecdote: back when I first played through DS in 2012, the street I lived on was getting its sewage system renovated. So they basically tore up the street to replace the pipes and all that and, well, it smelled like shit. For days. As I was going through the Depths.

It was very atmospheric. The future of games. Fuck VR, Smellovision is where it is at.

Also, you ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to poison shitholes in this game.

BUST OUT THE GODDAMN CAKE AND CHAMPAGNE, SON

MANUS IS FUCKIN DEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAD

...It took me like three hours...

But holy shit. Holy SHIT. That was so absurdly close. I equipped a ring that gave me a little more HP, can't remember the name of it but it saved my ass. That was fucking WILD.

I literally shouted "OH MY GOD YES" and jumped for fucking joy just now. My hands are shaking, man. A few bosses in Bloodborne did this to me, but this is the only one in DS1 so far. Holy God, these freaking games are something else sometimes.

...Anyway.

Spinky said:

BUST OUT THE GODDAMN CAKE AND CHAMPAGNE, SON

MANUS IS FUCKIN DEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAD

...It took me like three hours...

But holy shit. Holy SHIT. That was so absurdly close. I equipped a ring that gave me a little more HP, can't remember the name of it but it saved my ass. That was fucking WILD.

I literally shouted "OH MY GOD YES" and jumped for fucking joy just now. My hands are shaking, man. A few bosses in Bloodborne did this to me, but this is the only one in DS1 so far. Holy God, these freaking games are something else sometimes.

...Anyway.

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Good job!

th1nk said:

I started playing souls games with Bloodborne and got hooked, finished it first. Then finished 3 and the remaster a few days ago. now I am back playing the beginning of Dark Souls 2, but the atmosphere and animations of the main character are so different, you can really feel it is made by a different team. I made it through the beginning and now I am invested enough to keep playing, but I am wondering if the locations , enemy design and atmosphere ever reach the heights of the other three games... anyone care to motivate me without spoiling? thanks! :)

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DS2 has it's moments, some areas and enemies are just as good as the other games. But as you said, the animations and movement of your character are very much different. That certainly never changes and is a constant hassle throughout, but it's still worth playing and has many great points as its own game.

Red Liquorice said:

DS2 has it's moments, some areas and enemies are just as good as the other games. But as you said, the animations and movement of your character are very much different. That certainly never changes and is a constant hassle throughout, but it's still worth playing and has many great points as its own game.

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For all its problems I still enjoyed DS2 and would wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone new to the series who is enjoying DS1.

ghibli99 said:

IMO, the DkS2 DLC contains some of the series' best content. Some of the most infuriating too, but overall it's stuff you don't want to miss.

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Crown of the Iron King is fantastic and IMO it is the best area in the game with the best bosses as well. Just avoid the Iron Passage.

Spinky said:

BUST OUT THE GODDAMN CAKE AND CHAMPAGNE, SON

MANUS IS FUCKIN DEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAD

...It took me like three hours...

But holy shit. Holy SHIT. That was so absurdly close. I equipped a ring that gave me a little more HP, can't remember the name of it but it saved my ass. That was fucking WILD.

I literally shouted "OH MY GOD YES" and jumped for fucking joy just now. My hands are shaking, man. A few bosses in Bloodborne did this to me, but this is the only one in DS1 so far. Holy God, these freaking games are something else sometimes.

...Anyway.

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That feel when you kill a Souls boss that's been giving you trouble. Nothing in gaming compares. Makes me feel so warm and fuzzy.

Finally Four Kings beaten. It didn't take long only 4 tries including my infamous death without ring 1 death by Darkwraith who backstabbed me trough fog and 1 death to boss itself. To be honest I've got more problems getting to Abyss than fighting the boss.

Another thing. Chaos Servant covenant reward for Rank 2+ is Pyromancy and it's opening shortcut. Where the hell is that shortcut i was sure that the stone wall to the left of that Spider Lady would open or will be there a hidden passage but nope :/