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Mhj · Jun 14, 2018

"How long to beat" puts this game at around 20 hours for a normal play through. That's quite a commitment on my part. Does those 20 hours involve lots of random being lost, or is it reasonably stream lined to allow 30 min play sessions and always feeling some progress was made?

Deleted member 2834 · Jun 14, 2018

DekuBleep said:
How long is this game?

~30h for a nigh complete playthrough. High variance due to optional content and difficult navigation which could get you lost for shorter or longer spans.

Deleted member 10737 · Jun 14, 2018

compared to the first two areas, the third area i got to (fungal area) is much more complex, took me a while to find cornifer, and the basic map is less than half of what there actually is.
also yay

wall jump

MonkeySleeve · Jun 14, 2018

DekuBleep said:
How long is this game?

Around 30 hours to complete, 40-50 hours to 100% it. And then there are still some optional parts (DLC and stuff) that add a whole other couple of hours.

Kiro · Jun 14, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
Around 30 hours to complete, 40-50 hours to 100% it. And then there are still some optional parts (DLC and stuff) that add a whole other couple of hours.

I have difficulty fathoming this. I've explored a fair bit of areas, and it's been about 5 or 6 hours. Is the map really THAT big to give me 5x more content at minimum? Dang.

Deleted member 29682 · Jun 14, 2018

Kiro said:
I have difficulty fathoming this. I've explored a fair bit of areas, and it's been about 5 or 6 hours. Is the map really THAT big to give me 5x more content at minimum? Dang.

Which areas have you been to? Some areas you pass through early on have parts you come back to properly later.

Kain-Nosgoth · Jun 14, 2018

Kiro said:
I have difficulty fathoming this. I've explored a fair bit of areas, and it's been about 5 or 6 hours. Is the map really THAT big to give me 5x more content at minimum? Dang.

really depends on the player, i 100% the game in 32 hours, add like 3-4 hours for the DLC available right now

the game has tons of secrets so it will depend on you if you find them or not

GwyndolinCinder · Jun 14, 2018

Kiro said:
I have difficulty fathoming this. I've explored a fair bit of areas, and it's been about 5 or 6 hours. Is the map really THAT big to give me 5x more content at minimum? Dang.

Took me around 30 hours to 100%, mileage will probably vary due to difficulty and the openness of the game.

MonkeySleeve · Jun 14, 2018

Kiro said:
I have difficulty fathoming this. I've explored a fair bit of areas, and it's been about 5 or 6 hours. Is the map really THAT big to give me 5x more content at minimum? Dang.

It's pretty amazing right? I was blown away when I kept finding new areas and stuff to do. There are a few parts that will consume a lot of time but since these are optional it's still pretty amazing that it provides this much content.

Kiro · Jun 14, 2018

Brian Damage said:
Which areas have you been to? Some areas you pass through early on have parts you come back to properly later.

I've done a loop east through city of tears. Then detoured to crystal caves and got super boost. Jumped over to wailing mountain in the west and found spin slash.
But I think I missed a big boss back in the city or queens palace or something. I don't want tips though :) just sharing.

Bushido · Jun 14, 2018

I've been waiting for so long and was tempted so many times to buy it on PC, but now I'm glad I saw it through and can devour it on my Switch. This game is even better than I expected, I LOVE the sound design, how great and responsive everything feels, the atmosphere, level design, mechanics, level of detail and feedback...everything about it is amazing. Only 2-3 hours in but I can already tell that it's one of my favorite Metroidvanias and highlights of the year. Can't wait to jump back in tonight.

NediarPT88 · Jun 14, 2018

Nickerous said:
I have upgraded my nail once, but want to upgrade one more before trying the bosses again, if I can...no extra masks or vessels. I can equip 3 charms and I stick to the one that shows me on the map, the one that lowers the amount of spirit needed to cast spells, and I can't remember the other one...maybe the one that lets me dash more often? Or either I removed that one to add the spirit discount one...I have wall jump and dash and the spell to throw spirit using the a or r button[\spoiler]

Yeah upgrading the nail helps a lot. In Greenpath there's a charm you can find that I used pretty much for the whole game (careful with the thorns lol). Finding those green grubs also gives you some pretty good stuff. Finding the NPC I mentioned before can help you a lot if you have the currency for it. In my first playthrough I usually left the bosses for last, and only tackled them when I felt I had nothing more to discover in all areas with the abilities that I had. I know that some people don't like to backtrack but I'm one of those that whenever sees a area out of reach it stays in my head and when I think I finally have what I need to get to it I go there immediately. Doing that in this game is very rewarding.

Kiro said:
I have difficulty fathoming this. I've explored a fair bit of areas, and it's been about 5 or 6 hours. Is the map really THAT big to give me 5x more content at minimum? Dang.

Don't know how many areas you've explored but the map is pretty damn big.

Jaded Alyx · Jun 14, 2018

Hmm... Beat two bosses and now I can't see where to go. Everything seems inaccessible except one place which is dark as hell but the light costs a lot of money.

Clearly I must be missing a thing or two.

NediarPT88 · Jun 14, 2018

Kiro said:
I've done a loop east through city of tears. Then detoured to crystal caves and got super boost. Jumped over to wailing mountain in the west and found spin slash.
But I think I missed a big boss back in the city or queens palace or something. I don't want tips though :) just sharing.

Getting the super boost in just 6 hours sounds really fast, I can't remember how much time I took in the first areas but that strikes me as impressive.

Nickerous · Jun 14, 2018

I'm at a point where I won't lose much money so, I'm spamming the Mantis lords. Three times this morning and no luck. I can get to the second phase, but have never taken out a second lord. The other charm was the money collecting one. I removed that and now have the spirit discount and the rage one that activates when I'm down to one health. I see the pattern, but I get nervous when I start to do good. And I feel like I don't have time to heal between attacks[\spoiler]

ElGoldur · Jun 14, 2018

Jaded Alyx said:
Hmm... Beat two bosses and now I can't see where to go. Everything seems inaccessible except one place which is dark as hell but the light costs a lot of money.

Clearly I must be missing a thing or two.

I am not sure where you are but this might be handy ... you can bounce off mushrooms by attacking down in the air.

Deleted member 29682 · Jun 14, 2018

Nickerous said:
I'm at a point where I won't lose much money so, I'm spamming the Mantis lords. Three times this morning and no luck. I can get to the second phase, but have never taken out a second lord. The other charm was the money collecting one. I removed that and now have the spirit discount and the rage one that activates when I'm down to one health. I see the pattern, but I get nervous when I start to do good. And I feel like I don't have time to heal between attacks[\spoiler]

If you want a tip about when to heal for that...

When they do the simultaneous blade throw that mostly stays in the middle of the arena, stay right in the middle and you'll have time to heal 1 or 2 masks. If you're properly positioned you don't even have to dodge them.

Yuuber · Jun 14, 2018

Guys, where do I find the Green Path's map?

MonkeySleeve · Jun 14, 2018

Double post oops

MonkeySleeve · Jun 14, 2018

Nvm :P

Jaded Alyx · Jun 14, 2018

ElGoldur said:
I am not sure where you are but this might be handy ... you can bounce off mushrooms by attacking down in the air.

I don't even recall seeing any.

Deleted member 29682 · Jun 14, 2018

Jaded Alyx said:
I don't even recall seeing any.

The bouncy things in the Fungal Wastes. You can downslash to bounce off them much higher.

Kiro · Jun 14, 2018

NediarPT88 said:
Getting the super boost in just 6 hours sounds really fast, I can't remember how much time I took in the first areas but that strikes me as impressive.

Heh thanks. I know I've missed stuff but I usually explore most rooms that I can. I haven't died to any bosses yet, just about 4 deaths to multiple big enemies that trapped me.

Jaded Alyx · Jun 14, 2018

Brian Damage said:
The bouncy things in the Fungal Wastes. You can downslash to bounce off them much higher.

...k... Well I... Haven't been there....

Seems I have some work to do.

Kazaam · Jun 14, 2018

Creamium said:
Oh, enemies too? Figured only the shrooms. Hmm I saw a big armored one in the forest I was sure could double as a lift/platform, guess he could.

Spikes as well (not thorns though). And yes, there are certain enemies in certain areas that basically serve as some sort of "platforms" for this.

Deleted member 10737 · Jun 14, 2018

so the boss of the fungal area is way too much for me, decided to backtrack a little and

there's a whole new area if you return to where you start the game with wall jump. should i do this one or go back into the well?
i found a power up for my needle here

IamPeacock · Jun 14, 2018

Any news on the physical release? Want to buy, but probalby wait then.

Kazaam · Jun 14, 2018

mazi said:
so the boss of the fungal area is way too much for me, decided to backtrack a little and

there's a whole new area if you return to where you start the game with wall jump. should i do this one or go back into the well?
i found a power up for my needle here

You can definitely go there. It's not challenging and there are some cool stuff to be found there.

Dancrane212 · Jun 14, 2018

IamPeacock said:
Any news on the physical release? Want to buy, but probalby wait then.

Team Cherry implied they were taking meetings about that at E3 this week.

Deleted member 10737 · Jun 14, 2018

Kazaam said:
You can definitely go there. It's not challenging and there are some cool stuff to be found there.

thanks, i found the map, it doesn't seem to be a big are

Aurongel · Jun 14, 2018

is a super annoying fight and is giving me a pretty rough go of things. I do love the way they stash secrets like this away in areas you've already explored in the early game. I just wish some of the more minor fights like this were a little more creative either visually or in their move sets.

MiTYH · Jun 14, 2018

Got the game after release and really enjoying it. I went in basically blind only seeing a trailer and quick gameplay. Made my way to the second boss and it took a few tries. It's tough, for sure, but really beautiful game and the soundtrack is amazing. Starting to get the hang of it and can't wait to get deeper into it

Kazaam · Jun 14, 2018

There are so many heartbreaking moments in this game and within the story/lore of Hollow Knight, but Myla's end still leaves me devastated. For those that know what I'm talking about, what did you do?

Feral · Jun 14, 2018

everyone asking what to do and where to go after the second boss is sort of missing the point. You're kinda supposed to get lost and discover new things yourself

Kazaam · Jun 14, 2018

Kazaam said:
Spikes as well (not thorns though). And yes, there are certain enemies in certain areas that basically serve as some sort of "platforms" for this.

This is what I mean:

.exe · Jun 14, 2018

Kazaam said:
This is what I mean:

I was having the damndest time pulling this one off yesterday. The joycon sticks are incredibly fickle!

Menace said:
everyone asking what to do and where to go after the second boss is sort of missing the point. You're kinda supposed to get lost and discover new things yourself

Yeah, this is what I like most about this genre, but I can see how it can be a bit frustrating if you somehow miss that one critical spot on the map you're supposed to go.

MonkeySleeve · Jun 14, 2018

Menace said:
everyone asking what to do and where to go after the second boss is sort of missing the point. You're kinda supposed to get lost and discover new things yourself

Yea wouldn't really suggest checking this topic. Just go and play, figure stuff out for your self. Hell, it took me damn long to figure out that you can use downward slash on spikes!

Feral · Jun 14, 2018

daxy said:
I was having the damndest time pulling this one off yesterday. The joycon sticks are incredibly fickle!

Yeah, this is what I like most about this genre, but I can see how it can be a bit frustrating if you somehow miss that one critical spot on the map you're supposed to go.

that's one of the cool things about HK, though, it opens up in a way where you can tackle multiple different routes up until the end of the game. There isn't really a critical path, just an "ideal" path perhaps, but you're not supposed to know it on the first playthrough. And running into the NPCs again the most random places was one of the most enjoyable experiences for me

Kyra · Jun 14, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
Yea wouldn't really suggest checking this topic. Just go and play, figure stuff out for your self. Hell, it took me damn long to figure out that you can use downward slash on spikes!

What's amazing is that isn't the only way to get that grub. You don't have to know about the downward slash to even beat this game.

Elshoelace · Jun 14, 2018

Gonna pick this up finally. I know it comes with all the DLC, is that a postgame thing or is it encountered normally through a playthrough?

GwyndolinCinder · Jun 14, 2018

Aurongel said:
is a super annoying fight and is giving me a pretty rough go of things. I do love the way they stash secrets like this away in areas you've already explored in the early game. I just wish some of the more minor fights like this were a little more creative either visually or in their move sets.

Theres 150 > enemies so i'm sure youll find some you like

MonkeySleeve · Jun 14, 2018

Elshoelace said:
Gonna pick this up finally. I know it comes with all the DLC, is that a postgame thing or is it encountered normally through a playthrough?

Just normally through a play through. Some are a bit hidden tho.

Hybris · Jun 14, 2018

This thread is a fun read. I'm holding off for their final DLC to do a replay + the new stuff, and I'm seriously looking forward to that. This game is really something special!

Bushido · Jun 14, 2018

Kazaam said:
This is what I mean:

Mind = blown. I figured out that I can downward slash and bounce off enemies within the first 5 minutes of the game, but it didn't cross my mind I could do the same with spikes and thought I'd get a special skill for sections like these later on. Damn...

Elshoelace · Jun 14, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
Just normally through a play through. Some are a bit hidden tho.

Sounds good, thanks!

Wamb0wneD · Jun 14, 2018

Kazaam said:
This is what I mean:

Holy shit. This is in the crossroads right? Could you tell me where? I don't remember at all lol.

Morrigan · Jun 14, 2018

Mhj said:
"How long to beat" puts this game at around 20 hours for a normal play through. That's quite a commitment on my part. Does those 20 hours involve lots of random being lost, or is it reasonably stream lined to allow 30 min play sessions and always feeling some progress was made?

The game is huuuuuge. If you take your time and explore you will take a hell of a lot more than 20-30 hours tbh.

Kazaam · Jun 14, 2018

Bushido said:
Mind = blown. I figured out that I can downward slash and bounce off enemies within the first 5 minutes of the game, but it didn't cross my mind I could do the same with spikes and thought I'd get a special skill for sections like these later on. Damn...

As someone mentioned earlier, you can go through the entire game without using this skill. You can get to areas like this one using other means. That's the beauty of the game really.. you could wait until later when you get some skills that make reaching similar areas really easy, or if you want the rewards early on you can use methods that are more difficult.

Wamb0wneD said:
Holy shit. This is in the crossroads right? Could you tell me where? I don't remember at all lol.

Should be somewhere close to the tram.

ginnokane · Jun 14, 2018

This may be a silly question, but I bought everything from the map vendor in Dirtmouth, and have no idea how to use the red and blue map markers I bought (the explanation seemed to suggest you can put them on the map yourself). Can someone explain how to use them?

Meffer · Jun 14, 2018

LabouredSubterfuge said:
Is this 60fps on Switch?

Mhmm, docked and handheld.

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