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Kevers

The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
14,578
Syracuse, NY
People in show business are creeps, go figure. Hardwick was good at projecting the image of Mr nice nerd guy who made it. My boyfriend was starting to even look up to him, because he really did give good advice on his podcast and social media. Either he's a massive pretender, or the guy just has some dual personality problems.

I know of another case that might, in a couple of years time, hit too close to home for many of us... Related to a beloved showbiz person.

Dude had a lot of great advice, I read his The Nerdist Way book in 2012 and there's tons of actual helpful advice in there. I'm not defending him because of this at all btw, just at the time in my life when I read that book it certainly helped me out a lot.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,900
Dude had a lot of great advice, I read his The Nerdist Way book in 2012 and there's tons of actual helpful advice in there. I'm not defending him because of this at all btw, just at the time in my life when I read that book it certainly helped me out a lot.

Yeah. I'm personally really, really furious about this because it was a conversation I had with Chris that put me on the path I've been on for the past decade. He's literally the reason I am who I am today, and I don't know how to reconcile that right now. I'm so angry.
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,738
Brought up the topic with a few people (one who was in an abusive relationship) and they wondered why she didn't just leave him. So I'm not sure what the general opinion on this story will be outside of the #MeToo people.

I hate that type of thinking. There's plenty of people. Men and women. Who are in/stay in toxic relationships for a whole host of reasons. She even goes into a big in the article.
 

ProbablyRobbie

Alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
524
Damn I have followed her for years. I have always loved her stuff. I thought she was a fun cool nerdy funny girl. Fuck this just breaks my heart and makes me so mad all at the same time.

Fuck Chris Hardwick. I hope he loses fucking everything.
 

HP_Wuvcraft

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,267
South of San Francisco
Brought up the topic with a few people (one who was in an abusive relationship) and they wondered why she didn't just leave him. So I'm not sure what the general opinion on this story will be outside of the #MeToo people.
I've had (ex-)friends who, to the faces of my other friends, told them that they were either lying about their abuse or actually liked it.

These people exist.
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,738
Yeah. I'm personally really, really furious about this because it was a conversation I had with Chris that put me on the path I've been on for the past decade. He's literally the reason I am who I am today, and I don't know how to reconcile that right now. I'm so angry.

You can accept the fact he gave you good advice and you use it and apply it on your current path.

You can also recognize he's a manipulative control freak and leave it at that. You're not wrong for taking his advice or having said advice help you.
 

Proteus

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,984
Toronto
Yeah. I'm personally really, really furious about this because it was a conversation I had with Chris that put me on the path I've been on for the past decade. He's literally the reason I am who I am today, and I don't know how to reconcile that right now. I'm so angry.
Bad people can still give good advice.

Also, the reason you are who you are today probably has a lot more to do with your own actions. He may have put you on the path but you had to walk it.
 

JigglesBunny

Prophet of Truth
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
31,161
Chicago
I have always had an irrational hatred for this guy. Turns out I'm just insightful.
Oddly enough, so did I. He really plays the "charismatic nerd" role poorly and it was always abundantly clear that it's all a facade. I never expected him to be this vile but still, at least I know I could trust my instincts on this one.

Hope his career ends swiftly.
 

TheCthultist

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,450
New York
God damn it... he was one of the few celebrities I actually enjoyed listening to on a regular basis. Guess as long as Kevin Smith doeesn't get revealed to be a monster, I'm good; but still...

Brave of her to come out and make this all public; especially considering what a huge, obsessive following his Nerdist/AMC stuff has.
 

Nephtis

Banned
Dec 27, 2017
679
The OP is pretty misleading if you read only it. It makes him seem like a dick, but nothing too terrible. The entire piece is another thing altogether, damn. It sucks, I liked him quite a bit. I don't think she stands a chance legally, but she doesn't need to - the damage from this will be incredible. Hopefully she will get closure out of this, because man, what a terrible thing to live through.
 

Rogote

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,606
You can accept the fact he gave you good advice and you use it and apply it on your current path.

You can also recognize he's a manipulative control freak and leave it at that. You're not wrong for taking his advice or having said advice help you.

Exactly. Like, if a person that gets found out as a really bad person saved you from getting under a car in the past, you don't have to start quessing the meaning of your survival etc. As bad as these people are, they can and do normal and even helpful things as well, and you shouldn't feel an existential crisis because you gained something positive from it. Bad people usually aren't in their evil lairs laughing villainously about how evil they are and how they have everyone fooled.
 

Evil Calvin

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
649
St. Louis
Too bad. I remember him from"Singled Out". He flirted with Jenny McCarthy. But...look at this...


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kris.

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,248
I don't remember specifically because the episode came out like 4ish? years ago, but it was just the entire atmosphere of the episode. Hardwick was geeking the fuck out over just being in the presence of Harrison and Harrison acted like uhh... Harrison Ford. Old and crotchety and not having any of it. Like he really didn't want to be there. It made for a very uncomfortable listen.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
I mean, the Harrison Ford thing was just Harrison being Harrison. Part of it is an act, as shown in interviews with Conan and other places.

Reading into it as if he thought Hardwick was a douche is a bit of a stretch.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
This is incredibly fucked up thing to do to a person and while I feel bad for Chloe, I'm glad that she has step forward to tell her story and break free from the circle of abuse she was locked in. I think I saw her on some podcast stuff and she seems a genuine good person and know her videogame stuff. I hope the industry come around with this blacklisting her bullshit and she gets to work with the stuff she wants to.

With that all said, and prefacing that I don't know who the fuck Hardwick was let alone that he created Nerdist before this - all I knew is that he was this weird dude that I kept seeing on Comic-Con panels - I notice that he's married and I'm seeing a lot of vitriol thrown at his wife because she comes from a rich family or something like that. She doesn't deserve the abuse either, neither from Hardwick or social media. This is such a clusterfuck of situation to be, but I hope that whoever felt abused by Hardwick or anyone find strength to survive and move forward.

Chloe, you are a fucking hero.

Yeah, we still haven't had anything really come out of those initial vague allegations.

They aren't vague. Victims don't own the public opinion to tell their stories if they don't feel comfortable doing so. I was a fan of Landis work and I think the dude is/was a great screenwriter, but he reportedly acted like an abusive scumbag to people that know him very well and called him out on it. Does he deserve a death sentence? No. Was him a sexual/emotional abuser with people that he had relationships with? Yes. Most of the survivors of sexual abuse aren't asking for the death of their abusers, what they want is like what Chloe said, closure. If that closure comes from a public confrontation or private apology, that's none of our business. What we need to learn is to not idolize people. At all. Humans are flawed and will disappoint, at some point or another.

Yeah. I'm personally really, really furious about this because it was a conversation I had with Chris that put me on the path I've been on for the past decade. He's literally the reason I am who I am today, and I don't know how to reconcile that right now. I'm so angry.

Be thankful then. Be proud of where you are now and be thankful to him and everyone that set you on the path that you are right now. I've been extremely lucky with "idols" so far to the point that I didn't have to face the whole "separate art from the artist" question as much as others, but I feel that you shouldn't beat yourself up for this. Understand that who brought you to where you are now wasn't him or the conversation that you had with him. It wasn't just you, either. It was mostly you, but also all of those around you. People you love, people you hate. Be thankful to that. Strive to be better than you were back then and better than you are today. That doesn't mean that you are forgiving what he did, neither that you shouldn't be angry now. Be angry. Then let it go. And then keep moving forward.
 

Luke_wal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,257
They should do what they've been afraid to do for years and replace Hardwick with Greg Miller on Talking Dead.

I used to like Hardwick, but HATED the book he put out in 2012 and stopped paying attention. I hope Chloe is able to get the help she needs.
 

Border

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,859
They should get Yvette Nicole Brown (the black lady from Community) to host Talking Dead. She's always been a mega-fan who kept tight notes on the show. I don't know if she still follows it though since whenever I heard her talk about it I presumed that Glenn's death would devastate her.
 

hydruxo

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,450
Good riddance. Never did like the guy, he always seemed so full of himself.
 

D i Z

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,085
Where X marks the spot.
I know that people have grown to admire Chris over his career, but dude has always been a creep. He would in his earlier years be easy to bait, and you'd see his real nature poke through.
I've never liked the guy, and quit everything that he's been on years ago no matter who else was guesting.
 

Amiablepercy

Banned
Nov 4, 2017
3,587
California
Yeah. I'm personally really, really furious about this because it was a conversation I had with Chris that put me on the path I've been on for the past decade. He's literally the reason I am who I am today, and I don't know how to reconcile that right now. I'm so angry.

Put your anger to use and continue the path you are on. It's disillusioning but a match doesn't have to define the fire. Keep practicing ethical/compassionate business and keep supporting the vulnerable the minute you see something untoward going on around you do your best to stamp it down. Keep your head up. :)
 

Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
6,119
Yeah. I'm personally really, really furious about this because it was a conversation I had with Chris that put me on the path I've been on for the past decade. He's literally the reason I am who I am today, and I don't know how to reconcile that right now. I'm so angry.

Advice is what you interpret it to be. You don't owe who you are to anyone beyond the people who support you daily. Keep on keeping on.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,900
Advice is what you interpret it to be. You don't owe who you are to anyone beyond the people who support you daily. Keep on keeping on.

Thanks. It's alright, this thread isn't about me, I don't really need anybody's support or anything. I'm just trying to work through this anger. But I appreciate the sentiment.

I just really hope now that all of this is out in the open, Chloe can get back into the industry and have her blacklisting removed. I haven't seen her guest on anything in a long time.
 

Cybit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,327
Yeah. I'm personally really, really furious about this because it was a conversation I had with Chris that put me on the path I've been on for the past decade. He's literally the reason I am who I am today, and I don't know how to reconcile that right now. I'm so angry.

People are good and bad, and capable of extremes on both ends. Especially as someone in recovery (been in it myself for about 15 months) - him being able to go between doing genuinely awesome / nice / selfless / good things and then be (allegedly) a controlling abusive freakazoid (I don't even know how to begin to describe him based on that blog post) is surprisingly common, and well, sadly human.

I'll reiterate the post earlier about people not talking about how they "knew it from the beginning" / etc - that just shits on those hurt by him in order to puff up one's ego.