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Deleted member 896

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I think ZattMurdock is trying to imply that Chobot is the person who helped sabotage Chloe's career, and because she retweeted an account that has been pro-GG before (even if..well, the account is 100% right on the specific topic that the tweets are about), that was supposed to be some kind of proof that Chobot was the person who helped Hardwick.

Wait, Ashley Esqueda is a pro-GG account, or just the MomBot account Ashley linked to clarify the situation of the flute player? This is really hard to follow. Maybe I'm just dumb.
 

okay

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Oct 25, 2017
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Internet detectives figured out who she was talking about. It's not Chobot.

Here is a reddit post from three months ago describing what happened in more detail:

I was dating a man who was not a nice man, but happened to be well-known in a certain niche industry- I met a woman during that relationship, on a job. She knew who I was dating. After I had to have "surprise surgery", she was the only one who came to the hospital, and dropped off a present for me. I fell in love- she became my sister. I got her repped at my agency, I was offered my dream job and took a huge paycut to get her hired on as well, and got her booked on two other jobs as well.

When I realized I was in an abusive relationship, I told her I was thinking of leaving. She told me "I love you, but think of your career"- Since he was well-known, in her eyes this meant he was helping me. He wasn't. I was baffled. The day I found the nerve to finally dump him, she screamed at me for ten minutes, saying "how am I supposed to work with him now?" She took my friends out to dinner and told them really weird, untrue stuff, made it her mission to wreck me. She somehow got me fired off of the jobs I got her hired on by telling them I was unstable. She even went to my agency (I was there for over 10 years) and tried to get them to drop me. I lost a lot of friends, and was generally blacklisted in our industry. Luckily, my friends eventually came back and apologized, but at that point the damage had kind of been done. That woman single-handedly ruined my life. Best part? She's still friends with my ex, and is now besties with his new wife, as well of the wives of several other well-known folks in our industry. I also found out she'd done it to 5 other women. I'm still in therapy for that dumb relationship and friendship break-up, and it was years ago.
 

element252

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Oct 30, 2017
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User banned (1 week): downplaying sexual assault, victim-blaming
So I guess Chris Hardwick has an unhealthy 1950's view on how a relationship with a man and woman should go. Nothing here indicates sexual abuse though, but psychological abuse and the emotional toll that takes on someone.
She should have dumped him when she saw signs that he was controlling.
 

Cybit

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait, Ashley Esqueda is a pro-GG account, or just the MomBot account Ashley linked to clarify the situation of the flute player? This is really hard to follow. Maybe I'm just dumb.

I think MomBot? I have no idea either. I think it's fishing too hard for other people to be angry against and whip up those dopamine hits of self-righteousness at this point.
 

Kaiterra

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think ZattMurdock is trying to imply that Chobot is the person who helped sabotage Chloe's career, and because she retweeted an account that has been pro-GG before (even if..well, the account is 100% right on the specific topic that the tweets are about), that was supposed to be some kind of proof that Chobot was the person who helped Hardwick.
Not just before. That account is still on their bullshit. I was on the receiving end of it just this week.


Wait, Ashley Esqueda is a pro-GG account, or just the MomBot account Ashley linked to clarify the situation of the flute player? This is really hard to follow. Maybe I'm just dumb.
Mombot

Probably nothing wrong with Ashley but blindly retweeting someone who shouldn't be RTed
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think ZattMurdock is trying to imply that Chobot is the person who helped sabotage Chloe's career, and because she retweeted an account that has been pro-GG before (even if..well, the account is 100% right on the specific topic that the tweets are about), that was supposed to be some kind of proof that Chobot was the person who helped Hardwick.

That is a crazy jump to make and not something we should be doing.

Let's stick to the facts: Chloe made a claim about Hardwick. We're now waiting on his response and the response from AMC. There is no need for Reddit-esque Internet detective nonsense.
 

Chumley

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Oct 26, 2017
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Not really damage control, but siding with Hardwick when she should be supporting Chloe, like literally all "Nerd twitter" is doing. I think it's understandable because we are talking about people she knows personally, but I'd argue that complete silence would be better than this. I truly want to be wrong about this and hence why I wasn't clear enough on my initial reaction.

You don't make any sense.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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That is a crazy jump to make and not something we should be doing.

Let's stick to the facts: Chloe made a claim about Hardwick. We're now waiting on his response and the response from AMC. There is no need for Reddit-esque Internet detective nonsense.

Exactly. Leave the internet for the internet, folks.

Everyone: This is not the time or the place to jump to wild conclusions or paint people who weren't directly involved in this abuse as being supportive of it. Wait for Nerdist's statement.
 

Cybit

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not just before. That account is still on their bullshit. I was on the receiving end of it just this week.

Mombot

Ahh. Yeah I tend to try to stick to the cute puppy pictures part of Twitter. Rest of it seems like it feeds super unhealthy addictions to self-righteousness / anger / victimization / <insert dopamine hit here>. Lord knows it is easy for me to follow down that trail myself, so trying to get out of it.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't know who the woman who betrayed her (who Chloe thought of as a sister) was but I hope karma catches up with them aswell.
 

ZattMurdock

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Exactly. Leave the internet for the internet, folks.

Everyone: This is not the time or the place to jump to wild conclusions or paint people who weren't directly involved in this abuse as being supportive of it. Wait for Nerdist's statement.

I will drop it, I just think I need to explain what I actually meant and I take the blame because I did a poor job explaining what I meant:

I think ZattMurdock is trying to imply that Chobot is the person who helped sabotage Chloe's career, and because she retweeted an account that has been pro-GG before (even if..well, the account is 100% right on the specific topic that the tweets are about), that was supposed to be some kind of proof that Chobot was the person who helped Hardwick.
No, that's not what I meant. I don't think Chobot is the person that helped Hardwick sabotage Chloe's career that she described on her post. My point is that Chobot retweeted something about "not jumping to conclusions" right after this thing blew up and also liked a tweet from Hardwick's wife about not believing things said on social media - a tweet from months ago and not related to Chloe's situation. I was one of the few here bringing it up that it's fucked up that some are attacking Hardwick's wife over this, since she's potentially as much of a victim as Chloe, but I just wish that I saw equal support to Chloe from her.

I agree that waiting for Nerdist's official statement is the better approach to the situation, and sorry for derailing the thread.
 

Kaiterra

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Oct 25, 2017
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I will drop it, I just think I need to explain what I actually meant and I take the blame because I did a poor job explaining what I meant:


My point is that Chobot retweeted something about "not jumping to conclusions" right after this thing blew up and also liked a tweet from Hardwick's wife about not believing things said on social media - a tweet from months ago and not related to Chloe's situation.

I didn't see the latter thing in your post, maybe you forgot to include it and that led to some confusion? I kinda got what you were going for though. It's an awkward look for Chobot, but not really an indicator that she's in the tank for Hardwick.
 

Carlius

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Oct 27, 2017
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now lets create a little controversy...free kick wasnt a foul, second goal butterfingers degea who likes to talk but cant do much else...bring it.
 

Volimar

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This is mind blowing. I was a fan of both of them while they were together. She suffered a miscarriage and they both kind of had a weird nonchalant attitude about it. Not long after that they were broken up amid rumors of her cheating. Maybe this was the real reason.

They appeared together all the time and seemed very happy. A stark reminder that we never know what's going on below the surface.
 

ReconYoda

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Oct 27, 2017
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You need to pull back here.

You're seeking out additional drama. Focus on the situation at hand, don't try to find vague tweets that may or may not mean something and then post them here, especially when you clearly didn't even look into the tweet itself before posting it.

Yo, Zatt has a history of this. I remember a music thread with similar gossip.
 

Mr Clutch

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Oct 27, 2017
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I was following Jessica and Nerdist and opened my twitter. I did a search because I was weirded out by how Jessica reacted compared with others and linked this to the part of her post where she says that someone she considered a friend helped Hardwick on blacklisting her. My point is that it seems that Chloe has been trying to fix this thing for a while now. It seems to be more than the emotional and sexual abuse, but the very fact that Hardwick also screwed her over professionally.

Dude....its not even about the thread topic...she's reacting to the tweet she quoted who is in turn reacting to the Andy Dick lookalike playing the traditional Japanese flute at the Sony E3 event...this has NOTHING to do with the thread and its confusing people!
 

ZattMurdock

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Dude....its not even about the thread topic...she's reacting to the tweet she quoted who is in turn reacting to the Andy Dick lookalike playing the traditional Japanese flute at the Sony E3 event...this has NOTHING to do with the thread and its confusing people!

Like I said, yes I did explain myself poorly. Let's wait for Nerdist's actual official statement.
 

hamboner

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Oct 30, 2017
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So I guess Chris Hardwick has an unhealthy 1950's view on how a relationship with a man and woman should go. Nothing here indicates sexual abuse though, but psychological abuse and the emotional toll that takes on someone.
She should have dumped him when she saw signs that he was controlling.
Did you bother reading the article? That bit about "starfishing" is plainly sexual assault.
But then you follow up that with a victim blaming comment... enjoy your no-doubt incoming ban.
 

NoRéN

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Oct 26, 2017
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So I guess Chris Hardwick has an unhealthy 1950's view on how a relationship with a man and woman should go. Nothing here indicates sexual abuse though, but psychological abuse and the emotional toll that takes on someone.
She should have dumped him when she saw signs that he was controlling.
Why would you chime in without reading? And victim blame?

…Including let him sexually assault me. Regularly. I was expected to be ready for him when he came home from work.

How did this happen? At the beginning of our relationship, I was quite ill often due to my diet, something I'll get to in a bit. One night he initiated, and I said, "I'm so sorry, can we not tonight? I'm feeling really sick." He responded, "I just want to remind you, the reason my last relationship didn't work out was because of the lack of sex." It was a veiled threat. I succumbed.

Every night, I laid there for him, occasionally in tears. He called it "starfishing". He thought the whole idea was funny. To be fair, I did go along with it out of fear of losing him. I'm still recovering from being sexually used (not in a super fun way) for three years.
 

Volimar

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Chris has talked on his podcast a lot about his personality issues. The perfectionism, workaholic, depression stuff. If you cobbled together all those bits of conversation you'd probably come up with all those things that Chloe is accusing him of.
 

Spartancarver

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  1. As he was sober, I was not to drink alcohol. Before we began dating he said, "I noticed you have a glass of wine with dinner. That's going to stop."
  2. I was not to speak in public places (elevators, cars with drivers, restaurants where tables were too close) as he believed that people recognized him and were listening to our conversations. Our dinners out were usually silent, him on his phone.

What the motherfuck
 

VeryHighlander

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Who ever liked this fucking guy anyway? He literally is just internet comments personified. I highly doubt he even carries opinions of his own yet he gets opportunity after opportunity. It's still shocking that he's this much of a scum fuck. Like he treated her less than human. That's a grown ass man. Like how??
 

NewDonkStrong

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From Nerdist twitter
 

Tagyhag

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Oct 27, 2017
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Goddamn, poor Chloe, she's such a nice woman too. I'm not surprised that she was afraid to speak up.
 

ZattMurdock

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Not to derail but good lord you were insane in that thread.

It's the closest I got from having someone that I looked up disappointing me. I have expressed why I felt personally about the subject very clearly on that thread. If you can't understand why, maybe the problem is you, not me. Sexually abusing children is fucking serious shit, not something to treat it nonchalantly like you are doing. But let's drop this right here.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Who ever liked this fucking guy anyway? He literally is just internet comments personified. I highly doubt he even carries opinions of his own yet he gets opportunity after opportunity. It's still shocking that he's this much of a scum fuck. Like he treated her less than human. That's a grown ass man. Like how??

Chris is pretty much the King of the Schmoozers. He managed to get where he is by being affable and friendly around everyone who could help him and cutting loose everyone who could potentially negatively impact his ascent. Chloe mentioned it in her letter, but I know a lot of people like him. The term "starfucker" is kind of uncouth, but in Chris' case it's pretty apt. He very clearly had one goal: to be famous and to be around famous people and once he got a taste of that the narcissism bloomed like a goddamn kudzu infestation.
 

Rvaan

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That *thud* you just heard was Hardwick's ass bouncing of the crub he just got dropped on.
 

Spartancarver

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Just read her entire post.

Fuck him. The thing I truly want to say about him will probably get me banned here, but fuck him. I hope losing his job is the best thing in a series of unfortunate events that come his way.
 

Terror-Billy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm just glad women are finally speaking about scumbags like Hardwick and many more. I hope he's fired from wherever he's working on.

All kinds of fucked up. Is Chloe Dykstra related at all to the old philles baseball player
She's the daughter of John Dykstra, the Oscar winning VFX supervisor of Spider-Man 2.
 

Skelepuzzle

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Wow, surprising to learn that he is so divested from Nerdist. The statement itself should come as no surprise though. Lot of good people over there.

There is some irony in him rebranding his podcast as "ID10T" and droning on and on about how he shifted away from being a nerd to being personally responsible as his justification for it.