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Deleted member 5549

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I was interested in going to see that Game of Thrones Orchestra thingy until I saw the ticket price. and they had a special edition version (250 bucks), where some college student greets you and escorts you to your seat, which also includes a goodie bag containing a poster and other shit you'll keep in a box in your basement.

so, yeah, they probably gonna do that.
 

Pilgore

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Oct 29, 2017
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Yes go on, keep pushing those alt-right anti-disney TLJ hate mob buttons RLM. They've gone from criticism to hyperbole disguised behind thinly veiled satire. They're not even trying anymore.
 

BassForever

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RLM has made too many comments that make it clear they don't agree with most alt right or white spremacist views, they're just not as "woke" as some people here wish they were.
 

firehawk12

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RLM has made too many comments that make it clear they don't agree with most alt right or white spremacist views, they're just not as "woke" as some people here wish they were.
They're the classic variety of "we just want movies/games to be fun" GG-type, as opposed to the ones who feel the need to harass actors off of Instagram. :p
 

jviggy43

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Oct 28, 2017
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Some people in this community really still refusing to just accept that rlm have some pretty deplorable views.
 

lacer

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Oct 25, 2017
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i see it's time for this weeks round of 'are rlm bad or good'
 

Ether_Snake

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The "what about SJW" thing was making FUN of alt-right, you dummies. They were essentially saying "who cares about that shit".
 

BassForever

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And i suppose all the other times when they brought up SJWs and made diet racist comments, that was just jokes too ?

I'm pretty sure rlm was being 100% serious when they made comments about fucking and eatings cats, or murdering hookers they kidnap and chain to their basement.
 

firehawk12

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They've like continuously moved away from reddit bro humor over the past few years.

"Deblorable", what on earth are you guys talking about? Besides Rich's edgy jokes the only really dumb thing they said in a video in the last couple years was about diversity in the force awakens review. They've always had an abraisive and offensive brand of humor and they've been better and better about not being edgelords or pandering to toxic whiteboy fans (their full ghostbusters review had none of that notably)

I liked The Last Jedi a lot but the idea that not liking it makes you an alt righter is a perfect microcosm of how stupid online discourse has become
There's basically two sides to this - those who have watched Rich on Twitch and those who haven't. That's fine, but if you listen to him speak on Twitch you know he actually dislikes "SJWs" and wants everything to be apolitical.
 

Shy

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Oct 25, 2017
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They've like continuously moved away from reddit bro humor over the past few years.

"Deblorable", what on earth are you guys talking about? Besides Rich's edgy jokes the only really dumb thing they said in a video in the last couple years was about diversity in the force awakens review. They've always had an abraisive and offensive brand of humor and they've been better and better about not being edgelords or pandering to toxic whiteboy fans (their full ghostbusters review had none of that notably)
Both of those things aren't true. And if anything it's actually the complete opposite.
I liked The Last Jedi a lot but the idea that not liking it makes you an alt righter is a perfect microcosm of how stupid online discourse has become
Who the fuck said that ?
 

jviggy43

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Oct 28, 2017
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They've like continuously moved away from reddit bro humor over the past few years.

"Deblorable", what on earth are you guys talking about? Besides Rich's edgy jokes the only really dumb thing they said in a video in the last couple years was about diversity in the force awakens review. They've always had an abraisive and offensive brand of humor and they've been better and better about not being edgelords or pandering to toxic whiteboy fans (their full ghostbusters review had none of that notably)

I liked The Last Jedi a lot but the idea that not liking it makes you an alt righter is a perfect microcosm of how stupid online discourse has become
I hate the last jedi. Where do you see me saying them not liking TLJ makes them an alt righter? Hyperbolic misquoting and flat out lack of reading comprehension is far more of a perfect of a microcosm for how stupid online discourse has become. The fact that they continue to make their diet racist jabs every other video and people want to pretend like theres nothing wrong with it is foolish. I love their channel and a lot of their content but its pretty easy to just say they have stupid opinions on the whole SJW schtick.
 

jviggy43

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What is an example of a recent diet racist jab?
"the movies need to market to china so they make all the characters chinese" is a regular thing they spout off about when who the fuck cares? Are they upset about all the ways movies market to white audiences which are far more egregious than adding in one or two Asian characters? Like you could basically pick almost any other video they make and point out the diet racist jokes they make on the norm and yet people here still wanna sit here and pretend like they don't do it.
 

lacer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hate the last jedi. Where do you see me saying them not liking TLJ makes them an alt righter? Hyperbolic misquoting and flat out lack of reading comprehension is far more of a perfect of a microcosm for how stupid online discourse has become. The fact that they continue to make their diet racist jabs every other video and people want to pretend like theres nothing wrong with it is foolish. I love their channel and a lot of their content but its pretty easy to just say they have stupid opinions on the whole SJW schtick.
i get what you mean and don't really disagree but you're exaggerating the issue when people ask for examples and you say "pick a video" as if this kind of thing is so prevalent and obvious that it permeates everything they do. they're a group of white dude film nerds in their 30s-40s who make some cringey, uninformed comments from time to time. they're certainly not a bunch of dudes who sit around jerking off to the latest jordan peterson video or whatever. i don't think there's any problem acknowledging that they're not as in tune to shit as some of us would prefer, but i don't think anyone is out here claiming they're perfect to begin with

i don't really think rehashing this discussion on a weekly basis has much of a point though tbh, so that's my thoughts on the topic for the time being
 

jviggy43

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Oct 28, 2017
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i get what you mean and don't really disagree but you're exaggerating the issue when people ask for examples and you say "pick a video" as if this kind of thing is so prevalent and obvious that it permeates everything they do. they're a group of white dude film nerds in their 30s-40s who make some cringey, uninformed comments from time to time. they're certainly not a bunch of dudes who sit around jerking off to the latest jordan peterson video or whatever. i don't think there's any problem acknowledging that they're not as in tune to shit as some of us would prefer, but i don't think anyone is out here claiming they're perfect to begin with

i don't really think rehashing this discussion on a weekly basis has much of a point though tbh, so that's my thoughts on the topic for the time being
Oh I totally agree I'm exaggerating when I say pick a video. Its not that bad. It feels like its every 3-4 videos they get cute with saying something stupid. I should have noted I was being rather hyperbolic with that specific point.
 

jviggy43

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A few years ago they were making videos asking why they can't tell rape jokes or whatever, yet when they made their ghostbusters review they actively defended the female cast and Leslie Jones, etc. I think they've gotten a lot better

Maybe you're just noticing their offensive humor more with changing sensibilities? I literally can't see how they've gotten worse with that stuff in any way. It's like night and day


What remotely alt righty thing have they said about TLJ?
Were asking you who said they were alt right because they dont like TLJ. Because thats what you stated. And no one has said that here.
 

Secret Fawful

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I don't see how you can ignore their constant jabs at SJWs and diversity. They strike me as libertarians or liberals, one of those two, because I have met people in both aisles who do this same snide jabs at SJWs and diversity shit like it's a joke.

They once commented in a video that toys being diverse doesn't matter and no one gives a shit. I don't remember which video, but I remember thinking at the time "black and brown kids give a shit you dumb fucks".
 

jviggy43

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Oct 28, 2017
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"Yes go on, keep pushing those alt-right anti-disney TLJ hate mob buttons RLM."
That quote does not in fact call them alt right for disliking the movie.


This is the only post by shy on that page thats showing up for me

You tricked me. I thought it was a new one.
 

firehawk12

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I don't see how you can ignore their constant jabs at SJWs and diversity. They strike me as libertarians or liberals, one of those two, because I have met people in both aisles who do this same snide jabs at SJWs and diversity shit like it's a joke.

They once commented in a video that toys being diverse doesn't matter and no one gives a shit. I don't remember which video, but I remember thinking at the time "black and brown kids give a shit you dumb fucks".
Rich is definitely a Libertarian. He doesn't like Trump, but I think he hates identity politics even more.
 

jviggy43

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There is absolutely implications of that all the time though, not even just for RLM

I have been an ardent defender of that movie since release but it's absolutely been some weird pseudo poltical divide, where you see pro-TLJ articles on gamerghazi and shit. It happened with shit like La La Land vs Moonlight during Oscar season too and it's always embarassing
There are and its ridiculous when someone accuses someone of being a sexist or alt righter for disliking TLJ (Ive been accused of that here myself so I know there are people who do that). I'm just saying Shy wasn't calling them alt righters for disliking the movie so much as they push the same hot button topics the actual alt righters use to criticize that movie IE forced diversity, attacking SJWS, making sexist comments, etc. Which RLM do in fact do with a lot of topics, they take a lot of talking points you'll see on those crazy alt right videos when they criticize a movie for using asian actors in roles to appeal to the chinese market, or that its absurd that WW is a role model for young girls despite the fact RLM very clearly grew up idolizing star trek and other fictional characters themselves.

It isn't so frequent as to turn me completely off of their content, but it is stupid that they take some of these points because when it comes down to it I feel, at least for mike jay and jack, that theyre smarter than this. Like yes, movie studios appeal to their audiences, its a business, why is it such a big deal for you guys when they do it with asian actors who barely have any representation in the industry vs when they do it for everyone else? Its stuff like that which is what most of us are referring to when we criticize them for this, not just for disliking a movie. I also don't think theyve backed off of comments like that either even if they showed restraint in the ghostbusters review (which like, good job for meeting the bare minimum requirement there guys!)
 

Shy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Identity politics is a bullshit term.
A few years ago they were making videos asking why they can't tell rape jokes or whatever, yet when they made their ghostbusters review they actively defended the female cast and Leslie Jones, etc. I think they've gotten a lot better

Maybe you're just noticing their offensive humor more with changing sensibilities? I literally can't see how they've gotten worse with that stuff in any way. It's like night and day
They haven't gotten better, because they consistently make little jabs here and there. Just because they aren't always big statements. Doesn't mean they haven't moved away from that stuff.

And my sensibilities haven't changed, in that regard.
What remotely alt righty thing have they said about TLJ?
Again. When did i say that (or anyone else) That's my question.
Do. not. put. words. in. my mouth.
 

Shy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Regardless of the term being good or not, I've seen tons of leftists be critical of certain forms of "identity politics" that are myopic, empty and/or performative. It's less a "why are oppressed people complaining" but more a "people take the personal = political in some wacky, misguided ways sometimes"
Except every time RLM have brought it up it's been along the lines of "why are oppressed people complaining"
Agree to disagree I guess, I think they've been so much better about it this year in particular, seemed to really calm down after the Plinkett Ghostbusters review. Since then a lot of their diversity jabs have been about tokenism and making fun of corporate speak. Also jabs are a lot more distracting to me than big statements as someone who goes to them for laughs and sideyes when rich is being an edgelord, and once again he's often terrible with his anti "sjw" shit in ways jay and jack definitely aren't and mike only dabbles in on occasion
But they haven't though, As has been brought up for example with their WW review.

If they had gotten better, than that shit wouldn't have happened.
I also think there's a big gap between them being ignorant liberal nerd bros and them agreeing with most alt-right views or whatever. I guess Rich is pretty much reddit-tier politics without the overt hatred but I've always disliked that about him
Again. Their ignorance isn't an excuse.

Rich need to drop that nerd persecution complex he has.
GRRR! whatcha mean then
I think i've been making that clear for a long time now.
 

BassForever

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Me reading this thread like

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firehawk12

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I mean, honestly, for me I look at RLM like I watched Roseanne. As long as Rich doesn't have a racist meltdown on Twitter or something, I can at least live with the fact/pretend that Jack is there and hopefully he's some kind of positive influence on the group.
 

lacer

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Oct 25, 2017
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How about i do neither.
wow what a constructive, informative reply. i totally get your point now and don't think you were very clearly implying that rlm are as bad as alt right white supremecists, even though you seem to be doing exactly that
 

Shy

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Oct 25, 2017
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wow what a constructive, informative reply. i totally get your point now and don't think you were very clearly implying that rlm are as bad as alt right white supremecists, even though you seem to be doing exactly that
You mean any more constructive than you posts to me ?

I have made my position abundantly clear from as far back as the old gaf thread. So either you're very new here. Or you're being obtuse at best, and disingenuous at worst.
 

lacer

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Oct 25, 2017
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look, i went back through the last couple pages and nothing sticks out that clarifies what you meant with that post. i'm not gonna do homework on your post history on gaf dude. i'm really not sure what else someone is supposed to take away from that post, but i'm guessing you won't deign this worthy of a brief clarification since you're already throwing around the ol 'disingenuous' chestnut dismissal folks seem to have become so fond of recently, so i'm done with this little back and forth
 

Khezu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ya, I don't think they really changed that much, just got better at reading the room and realizing they shouldn't poke a hornets nest.
Mike and Jay generally seem like decent people.
Rich seems like hes gonna pull a Pewdiepie on twitch any day now.
Jack is probably a racist monster who eats babies.