Fitness |OT| A New Era Begins

Endymion · Nov 13, 2017

G Status Ray said:
I may be doing it wrong, but I've found that not having any bread is leaving me empty. It may be psychological though! Like instead of sandwiches, I make lettuce wraps and I hate them. Lol.

Bread is like the least filling thing in terms of actual satietty, maybe it's because you're drinking something with it that's causing some bloat that makes you full or something? Definitely make sure you're getting enough fiber in your diet too since that also contributes to fullness.

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Marmoka · Nov 13, 2017

Pre-workout caffeine/taurine pills are amazing. I was about to take a nap today after work. I took one 45 minutes before going to the gym, and I could do 7 different exercises of 3 sets each, and I felt like having enough strength and energy to do even more.

Until now I felt like I had enough by just doing 4 exercises, even with less weight than today. These pre-workout supplements were what I needed to move a step forward in my routine.

I don't know if they are as effective as placebos, but I have tried other pre-workout pills without stimulats before and they didn't give me the energy and motivation I needed. Whatever they are, or they do, I hope to continue with this motivation and energy everyday in the following weeks.

Mook1e · Nov 13, 2017

joecanada said:
I have done so. However I wasn't totally natural depending on your definition as I wasn't natural when I was young and dumber. I could probably answer your questions my coach was a national competitor. Also by natural would you take diuretics or nothing whatsoever? Ive thought of going again but I haven't had a window as just have a 4 month old

No diuretics or anything that can be tested. They may even do polys. I'm in Europe. I'm in pretty good shape for my height/weight/age, but i know it takes going to another level to cut down enough to compete. I feel like my legs and back need a bit more work before I'm ready to cut down, so I need to clean bulk for 8 to 12 weeks first. I'm currently 5'6 about 185 and 14 or so percent bf.

Tuorom · Nov 13, 2017

G Status Ray said:
I may be doing it wrong, but I've found that not having any bread is leaving me empty. It may be psychological though! Like instead of sandwiches, I make lettuce wraps and I hate them. Lol.

Are you eating enough?

Flow · Nov 13, 2017

Wally_Wall said:
Six weeks to the day that I decided to eat better and commit to lifting again. Pretty amazing what 42 days can do.

Lost 7 pounds
Squat up 50lbs
DL up 35
BP up 30
OHP up 20
Weight pu's up 40

aye that is wassup. I started back 6 weeks ago after a 3 month break. I can't really brag about anything yet because I am nowhere near lifting what I used to last year.

Dokkaebi G0SU · Nov 13, 2017

pre-workouts didn't work for me. when i used them years ago, i felt dependent on having them in order to go through all of my training. if i didnt have any pre-workout, i wouldnt go to the gym. fast forward to today and the past months, i dont use them. I just blast music and feel good!

only things i take is a protein mix with 8oz of cold water and bcca with 16oz of water. alternating between where i take my protien post work out. bcaa depending on wheni plan on working out. hours before or hours after. now they make me feel more complete than pre-workouts did for me. that's just me though.

Nome · Nov 13, 2017

I'd stay away from store-bought preworkouts supps. There's a lot of junk in "proprietary mixes" when the main active ingredient is caffeine, and a lot of supplement companies put illegal/unlabeled substances in their mixes. The FDA actually has a list here (CLICK ME), and you can see, there's a lot of stuff that shouldn't be abused hiding in your supps.

You can get better results running your own ECA (Ephedrine-Caffine-Aspirin) stack at a much lower price, with no surprises.

That said, if your body is able to handle it, and you're lifting for aesthetics, there's not much downside to having some caffeine prior to a workout, since the base metabolic rate increase helps with burning fat.

Wally_Wall · Nov 13, 2017

U-oh... 183 today boys and girls. We getting close.

joecanada · Nov 13, 2017

Mook1e said:
No diuretics or anything that can be tested. They may even do polys. I'm in Europe. I'm in pretty good shape for my height/weight/age, but i know it takes going to another level to cut down enough to compete. I feel like my legs and back need a bit more work before I'm ready to cut down, so I need to clean bulk for 8 to 12 weeks first. I'm currently 5'6 about 185 and 14 or so percent bf.

Well everyone uses say caffeine/ephedrine stacks even in natural shows so best is to find the rules for whatever show you're doing or organization. But whatever you are doing you'll need to do a water load / deload .(carefully).. Sounds like you have decent amount of mass so you'll want to get as cut as possible for an amateur show. Bulk won't usually win you the day. Europe may have different learning.... Best of course is to hit top of lightweight class but if you can't make it don't kill yourself and just do middleweight. Say you compete at 5% you'll be about what 168 and then dump say 5+ lb water .... Gives you an idea. I had no idea at the time I went from 205 to 171.... It's quite a shock when cutting water. In retrospect though losing less is easier so I like your starting point. You likely only need help with finishing touches I highly recommend getting a coach for your final 12 weeks ... Most are reasonable and you can just email pics and they'll give you advice. If you don't need help training and stuff they'll just monitor your final progress and that's quite a bit cheaper. The only thing to do prior to 12 weeks is pack on as much mass as possible and stay lean enough to go down reasonably... Not over 15% I'd say. 2lbs a week is most you can do on 12 weeks to lose without losing too much muscle.

Bumrush · Nov 13, 2017

Wally_Wall said:
U-oh... 183 today boys and girls. We getting close.

Only 183 BW pull ups?

Amateur.

Jk, congrats bud. What's the goal? 175?

Wally_Wall · Nov 13, 2017

Bumrush said:
Only 183 BW pull ups?

Amateur.

Jk, congrats bud. What's the goal? 175?

One arm pull ups though :-|

Don't really have a specific goal. Somewhere around 180 has always been a comfortable place for me. When I dip to 175 I'm guessing I hit sub 10% but that's just the eyeball test.

Bumrush · Nov 13, 2017

Wally_Wall said:
One armed pull ups though. :|

Don't really have a specific goal. Somewhere around 180 has always been a comfortable place for me. When I dip to 175 I'm guessing I hit sub 10% but that's just the eyeball test.

170 is a cozy little spot for me. I'm right around there but my bf% is a disaster so I have some work to do there

Wally_Wall · Nov 13, 2017

Bumrush said:
170 is a cozy little spot for me. I'm right around there but my bf% is a disaster so I have some work to do there

We anxiously await the wife drooling Bum shirtless pic...
It's crazy because you look way bigger than 170 when you get lean. You're my height (5'10) right?

Bumrush · Nov 13, 2017

Wally_Wall said:
We anxiously await the wife drooling Bum shirtless pic...
It's crazy because you look way bigger than 170 when you get lean. You're my height (5'10) right?

I'm 5'9" but (you're right) my ideal / old weight is probably 180 but filled to the brim with muscle. I let a lot of that muscle go and don't see myself getting it back for a while due to how much dedication that was (I was lifting for like 90 minutes 6-7 days a week with additional HIIT 4-5).

170 with BF% around 11-12 is my end of spring goal.

EssBeeVee · Nov 13, 2017

i had a gas buildup at around 4pm. so i went in to do squats trying to not squeeze a few out. RIP. i managed to survive.

Front squat needs more work right now but it totally not that weak than i thought.

MrToughPants · Nov 13, 2017

Bumrush said:
170 with BF% around 11-12 is my end of spring goal.

Damn I feel fat now...I'm still around 215lbs 100% bodyfat :(

Wally_Wall · Nov 13, 2017

Your traps are straight out of a comic book.

MrToughPants · Nov 13, 2017

Wally_Wall said:
Your traps are straight out of a comic book.

Diverts the attention from my love handles.

Pic is over a month old. I added heavy BB shrugs and I think they've grown since :(

Flow · Nov 13, 2017

Trained with a bench today. taught me a few things. I knew this cat was strong when he was smaller than me but reppted 205x20 like it was nothing. Dude taught me some stuff about power.

I then went and hit a new pr of 205x2. this was my 4th set. I then did two drop sets right after.

solid chest/back day overall. My gf says that I don't really have boobs anymore. they seem to be tightening up

Bumrush · Nov 13, 2017

MrToughPants said:
Damn I feel fat now...I'm still around 215lbs 100% bodyfat :(

Lol. You could firm up in NO time dude.

Flow · Nov 13, 2017

Mr toughpants we are legit around the same weight and body type lol. 5'10? or taller?

KillerBEA · Nov 14, 2017

Nome said:
I'd stay away from store-bought preworkouts supps. There's a lot of junk in "proprietary mixes" when the main active ingredient is caffeine, and a lot of supplement companies put illegal/unlabeled substances in their mixes. The FDA actually has a list here (CLICK ME), and you can see, there's a lot of stuff that shouldn't be abused hiding in your supps.

You can get better results running your own ECA (Ephedrine-Caffine-Aspirin) stack at a much lower price, with no surprises.

That said, if your body is able to handle it, and you're lifting for aesthetics, there's not much downside to having some caffeine prior to a workout, since the base metabolic rate increase helps with burning fat.

Looks like my pre workout is in the clear.

Morzak · Nov 14, 2017

titch said:
I get regular coached swimming so happy to chip in based on my own experiences if there are any specific questions - also looking to become a level 1 tri coach so have done some reading up on the subject.

Nice I swam competetively until 15 I think, and then I did Waterpolo shortly and for a time underwater-rugby. After that I just did it recreationaly. When I get back into the pool I will have to find a group to train with. Even if you have a lot of experience, it's hard to really evaluate your form without decent external inputs. Ah well next year the local pool closes for 1.5 years anyway.....

Psychotext · Nov 14, 2017

Bleh, I'm going in the wrong direction at the moment and I can't seem to stop it. Oddly, I've been spot on with my calories, but a level that would normally mean I'm cutting is currently resulting in barely staying at the same weight.

Ugh... time to eat stupidly clean I guess. :(

Marmoka · Nov 14, 2017

Nome said:
I'd stay away from store-bought preworkouts supps. There's a lot of junk in "proprietary mixes" when the main active ingredient is caffeine, and a lot of supplement companies put illegal/unlabeled substances in their mixes. The FDA actually has a list here (CLICK ME), and you can see, there's a lot of stuff that shouldn't be abused hiding in your supps.

You can get better results running your own ECA (Ephedrine-Caffine-Aspirin) stack at a much lower price, with no surprises.

That said, if your body is able to handle it, and you're lifting for aesthetics, there's not much downside to having some caffeine prior to a workout, since the base metabolic rate increase helps with burning fat.

Fortunately the ones I'm taking are not in that list, and I hope they are completely clean. I will be aware of this situation next time. Thanks!!

MrToughPants · Nov 14, 2017

Flow said:
Mr toughpants we are legit around the same weight and body type lol. 5'10? or taller?

5'9"

titch · Nov 14, 2017

Morzak said:
Nice I swam competetively until 15 I think, and then I did Waterpolo shortly and for a time underwater-rugby. After that I just did it recreationaly. When I get back into the pool I will have to find a group to train with. Even if you have a lot of experience, it's hard to really evaluate your form without decent external inputs. Ah well next year the local pool closes for 1.5 years anyway.....

Apart from the odd time in the pool with friends i didnt really start to swim until i joined my local tri club 3 years ago. We get regular coached sessions and when i say coached its more of a this is what i want you to swim today including drills/endurance/speed/technique - we dont really get individual feedback and the coaching is a show and copy scenario which doesnt really help as you cant really see what is going on and it is all done by the feel of the water and your swim times against effort.

We were in the same situation where our pool was getting closed for 18month(its now way over that now btw) but we were lucky to get a temporary pool created - the facilities are not as good and you can taste it when someone users the shower but at least its a 25m pool you can do lane lengths in. It really does help to swim with others though - even if its just for some cheeky drafting when tiredness sets in.

EssBeeVee · Nov 14, 2017

Nome said:
I'd stay away from store-bought preworkouts supps. There's a lot of junk in "proprietary mixes" when the main active ingredient is caffeine, and a lot of supplement companies put illegal/unlabeled substances in their mixes. The FDA actually has a list here (CLICK ME), and you can see, there's a lot of stuff that shouldn't be abused hiding in your supps.

You can get better results running your own ECA (Ephedrine-Caffine-Aspirin) stack at a much lower price, with no surprises.

That said, if your body is able to handle it, and you're lifting for aesthetics, there's not much downside to having some caffeine prior to a workout, since the base metabolic rate increase helps with burning fat.

sexual enhancement you say.

Flow · Nov 14, 2017

MrToughPants said:
5'9"

Ah gotcha

SnakeyHips · Nov 14, 2017

Dead Prince said:
sexual enhancement you say.

I'll take ten.

EssBeeVee · Nov 14, 2017

i decide to go back to what work which was work on my own "program" and work around what equipments i have and when i'll be able to do certain things .because some of the program im doing i have to sub stuff because not everyone gym seem to have what i need and i would still have to sub and do alternative of it.

fallingedge · Nov 14, 2017

when the lighting is on point

http://i.imgur.com/KJneyKq.jpg

MrToughPants said:
Damn I feel fat now...I'm still around 215lbs 100% bodyfat :(

meaty af

Bumrush · Nov 14, 2017

fallingedge said:
when the lighting is on point

https://i.imgur.com/KJneyKq.jpg

Link is broken for me

Nome · Nov 14, 2017

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/14/bodyb...rted-workout-powder-cause-of-death-uncertain/

I know it's bad taste to make fun of the dead, but whatever it takes, right babe?

fallingedge · Nov 14, 2017

Bumrush said:
Link is broken for me

hmm changed it to http as opposed to https

lmk if that works

Bumrush · Nov 14, 2017

fallingedge said:
hmm changed it to http as opposed to https

lmk if that works

Yessir...fucking SHRED CITY!

Blazo · Nov 14, 2017

Marmoka said:
Yesterday was shoulders only day. I need to get them bigger and started doing some intensity rutines for them.

And no soreness. I have a huge motivation for the next time, and training my shoulders was supposed to be my least favorite exercise.

I just saw this post now, i did them also today and had like 5 most exercises for them. Some of them are from https://musclewiki.org

Can you tell me what exactly you do for them?

EssBeeVee · Nov 14, 2017

Nome said:
http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/14/bodyb...rted-workout-powder-cause-of-death-uncertain/

I know it's bad taste to make fun of the dead, but whatever it takes, right babe?

are they about to blame everything but the obvious.

Wally_Wall · Nov 14, 2017

FE beastin!

EssBeeVee · Nov 14, 2017

i wasn't paying attention to where i was walking and my foot slipped off a tool on the ground. my left foot bent and all i hear are some little cracking sounds. at this point i was like fuck. did i just twist my ankle.

so i started walking. but you know. my foot feels great. you guys ever been to a chiropractor and ask for a foot adjustment? i think that's what it would feel like.

Marmoka · Nov 14, 2017

Blazo said:
I just saw this post now, i did them also today and had like 5 most exercises for them. Some of them are from https://musclewiki.org

Can you tell me what exactly you do for them?

Here are the names and links to bodybuilding.com for each exercise I did last week, and this thursday I'm doing it again (any order):

I did 3 sets per exercise. My shoulders aren't big, so I didn't use too much weight. Don't take this too seriously, probably these are not the appropriate exercises to train shoulders.

fallingedge · Nov 14, 2017

thanks guys, those comments keep me going on days like this lol

EssBeeVee · Nov 14, 2017

This will be interesting today. have bench and gonna follow my own program.

pray for me.

Wally_Wall · Nov 14, 2017

You'll be good Prince. I'v been doing my own thing for 20 years.

Flow · Nov 14, 2017

my strength and explosiveness is starting to match my weight. am close to curling 100 lbs for reps, and 140 for seated shoulder press. back in September I was struggling with 60 pounds curling, and 100 seated.

Wally_Wall · Nov 14, 2017

Flow said:
my strength and explosiveness is starting to match my weight. am close to curling 100 lbs for reps, and 140 for seated shoulder press. back in September I was struggling with 60 pounds curling, and 100 seated.

I love how you throw out curls as a barometer of your strength. You're one of us!

Endymion · Nov 14, 2017

FE's pants: "Oh shit the camera's out, better drop."

Blazo · Nov 14, 2017

Marmoka said:
Here are the names and links to bodybuilding.com for each exercise I did last week, and this thursday I'm doing it again (any order):

Side Lateral Raise

Front Dumbbell Raise

Standing Military Press

External Rotation with Cable

Cable Rear Delt Fly

Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise

Dumbbell Shrug

I did 3 sets per exercise. My shoulders aren't big, so I didn't use too much weight. Don't take this too seriously, probably these are not the appropriate exercises to train shoulders.

Thank you! Also this website is really helpful.

fallingedge · Nov 14, 2017

Endymion said:
FE's pants: "Oh shit the camera's out, better drop."

MTP did it first!

EssBeeVee · Nov 14, 2017

Success bench day. Feeling better doing bench press.

EDIT:

also.

just bought a 12 pack. idk why. should have went to the store and picked one bar up and see. if i don't like i'll just hand it out to my friends lol.

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