She was grating in every single moment, and poor John Boyega relegated to clunky side character.
Of course it was a movie, the whole insults on Instagram fiasco was terrible and uncalled for.
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Fans offer to cover budget to redo Star Wars: The Last Jedi
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Of course it was a movie, the whole insults on Instagram fiasco was terrible and uncalled for.
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He didn't write it alone if I remember correctly so hopefully someone gave his story a pass through and gave it more weight where needed
Women did things. There was some B plot on a casino planet. Luke isn't son goku. That's about it.
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Leia used the force by instinct to save herself from the void of space
I think the problem here is that you wrote "Asian woman" instead of, you know, her name.
I think it comes down to hardcore fans wanting Star Wars to be like the expanded universe: hardcore 70s sci-fi with extreme violence, dark and edgy villains, badass babes, and men at the forefront.
Instead we got a diverse, family friendly movie that subverts expectations. The women aren't portrayed as sexy, the violence is PG, and most of the men are incompetent. Fans hated it.
That and the Auralnauts vids redeem them. I don't get worked up about the prequels but they condense the timeline too much and don't tell a compelling story for Darth Vader. We can do better.
It's a shame that the casino planet plot barely tied in to the rest of the movie, but that's my only problem with it. Otherwise, I consider it perhaps the most necessary Star Wars movie of the Disney era.
This is honestly really sad. I honestly pity anyone who is involved in this. If you didn't like TLJ, that's fine, but you have to accept it just like we all had to accept the prequels. There have been bad Star Wars movies before.
I can just imagine them "re-doing" the scene on Crait and having Luke do some Goku shit against the walkers. Luke Skywalker is just a man.
I can just imagine them "re-doing" the scene on Crait and having Luke do some Goku shit against the walkers. Luke Skywalker is just a man.
Oh, sorry I honestly don't remember either her name or her character's. My bad!
they should just save their money and just stop caring about Star Wars.
IMO, TLJ is an awful pointless movie that contradicted everything from the Force Awakens and then ended with a "okay, --- what now? what's the point leading into the final movie of the trilogy in 2 years"
and it's exactly that. TLJ has sabotaged the new trilogy to the point that there is no point to the new STORY line. Any Director can just enter any episode and just turn it on its head negating the trilogy.
IMO, TLJ is an awful pointless movie that contradicted everything from the Force Awakens and then ended with a "okay, --- what now? what's the point leading into the final movie of the trilogy in 2 years"
and it's exactly that. TLJ has sabotaged the new trilogy to the point that there is no point to the new STORY line. Any Director can just enter any episode and just turn it on its head negating the trilogy.
Worth noting that the B plot was actually the heart of the movie, but it didn't have laser sword fights, so it totally sucked.
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People felt that Luke isn't who he should be and is too radically different (it's been 30 fucking years and a lot has happened I think his change is ok)
Too much diversity
Lack of lightsaber fights
Snoke isn't actually anyone specific, he's just a guy. People expected him to be a previously established character which is fine but... can new characters not be super powerful too? Why does everyone have to be someone? Same goes for Rey, everyone expected her parents to be somebody and when it turned out they were nobodies, people got upset.
Sum it all up, it wasn't what people expected so it's bad. When you pick it apart, it's not all that ridiculous. I did an editorial on why Luke's evolution isn't bad writing, it's just not what hardcore fans seemed to want. Got a lot of flack for that one from those fans!
Some people have too much free time. Imagining spending so much time and energy stewing in anger over a movie.
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Kylo Ren stabs a lightsaber through a guy's face and Rey slices a guy in half. I'd say when the lightsabers come out, they don't fuck around.
Rose is one of only a handful of people in the entire SW universe to have a normal name to boot.
My only issue with the casino planet was the overly long chase scene with the animals. The rest of it (including the excursion basically being a giant failure and setting up the betrayal on the Supremecy) worked fine for me as a character/world building.
These are the typical reasons given:
-Canto Bight subplot is boring, unnecessary, drags on. DJ is introduced like a deus ex machina. "Marvel humor"
-Finn and Poe do nothing worthwhile
-Rose is "annoying" and had a stupid line toward the end
-They hyperspace ram "breaks the internal consistency of the universe"
-Admiral Holdo has purple hair
-Why didn't Holdo tell Poe the plan?
-Ackbar deserved a better death
-Leia flying was dumb
-Luke is depressed and not a super badass like in the old books, it's against his character to have contemplated killing Ben Solo, his death sequence is stupid
-First Order shouldn't be able to take over the galaxy so quickly. Lack of political element/galaxy feels small.
-Battle of Crait is a Hoth rehash
-No Knights if Ren
-Snoke didn't get a backstory
-Rey's parents should have been important
-Rian was obsessed with subversion to the point of ruining TFA retroactively
I think most of these are dumb points. Personally I think Canto Bight felt rushed and could have been fleshed out more, and I wish there was more about Snoke and the political situation in the galaxy, but otherwise it was a pretty good movie.
I mean the movie did make a huge mistake that absolutely ruined the film. I'd pitch in to fix that problem.
Change Luke's Lightsaber to the green one. Yeah, I get they wanted to give the viewers a clue that things weren't as they seemed and that the film makers thought the audience would be too stupid to pick up on the fact that Luke looks much younger, and doesn't leave footprints in the salt. But showing him with the Lightsaber we just saw get destroyed was a bit too much.
And the green saber is the GOAT saber and we need to see more of it.
Seriously though, I loved TLJ and things I would change are all pretty minor, like the thing above.
Change Luke's Lightsaber to the green one. Yeah, I get they wanted to give the viewers a clue that things weren't as they seemed and that the film makers thought the audience would be too stupid to pick up on the fact that Luke looks much younger, and doesn't leave footprints in the salt. But showing him with the Lightsaber we just saw get destroyed was a bit too much.
And the green saber is the GOAT saber and we need to see more of it.
Seriously though, I loved TLJ and things I would change are all pretty minor, like the thing above.
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Last Jedi was my favorite Star Wars in recent memory. Can't wait to see where it heads from here.
So. Shrug I guess.
So. Shrug I guess.
Really? There's nothing to redo with the movie, if anything i would add some of the deleted scenes back into the "main" movie.
TLJ is, for me, the best Star Wars movie to date ... don't get the hate for it, at all. If you want to see some bad Star Wars, go and check what Lucas had planned for a sequel trilogy. .... Midi-Chlorians ....
Also can't wait for whatever Johnson cooks up with his own trilogy.
TLJ is, for me, the best Star Wars movie to date ... don't get the hate for it, at all. If you want to see some bad Star Wars, go and check what Lucas had planned for a sequel trilogy. .... Midi-Chlorians ....
Also can't wait for whatever Johnson cooks up with his own trilogy.
No need to remake it.
Want a do-over that solves (nearly) everything, but going forward with ep IX?
Here's how:
Rapid montage (like flashes) of all the events of TLJ flowing backwards, and end on the frozen eye of Leia, floating in space.
She never flew back in. She died. What we saw from that point on was a mix of Force visions and hallucinations.
Now Leia being dead, Holdo actually tells the crew her plan (she still ends up ramming her ship in Snoke's dreadnought as a cover, but not using HS), Finn and Rose realizing their plan is stupid, Leia's last call to her brother with the Force to train Rei and help the resistance makes him decide to join in, the last stand on Crait they are actually helped by incoming ships including the Falcon, and Luke arrives on the planet with Rei to help evacuate, they make it out barely in time. Whether Luke dies in an epic fight vs Kylo or goes on being a mentor for Rei is up in the air, it can be good either way imo.
Done. Kinda wastes 20-30minutes to undo awful stuff from TLJ, but no need to remake the entire movie.
Want a do-over that solves (nearly) everything, but going forward with ep IX?
Here's how:
Rapid montage (like flashes) of all the events of TLJ flowing backwards, and end on the frozen eye of Leia, floating in space.
She never flew back in. She died. What we saw from that point on was a mix of Force visions and hallucinations.
Now Leia being dead, Holdo actually tells the crew her plan (she still ends up ramming her ship in Snoke's dreadnought as a cover, but not using HS), Finn and Rose realizing their plan is stupid, Leia's last call to her brother with the Force to train Rei and help the resistance makes him decide to join in, the last stand on Crait they are actually helped by incoming ships including the Falcon, and Luke arrives on the planet with Rei to help evacuate, they make it out barely in time. Whether Luke dies in an epic fight vs Kylo or goes on being a mentor for Rei is up in the air, it can be good either way imo.
Done. Kinda wastes 20-30minutes to undo awful stuff from TLJ, but no need to remake the entire movie.
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