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NPD May 2018: State of Decay 2 #1 software, PS4 tops hardware charts
- Thread starter ZhugeEX
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A very long time I think, MS and Sony make very different first party games. Sony concentrate on SP, people could get Game Pass for a month, play GOW, Horizon etc and be done with it. If they made MP focused games like MS, then I'm sure Sony would have a Game Pass like service going right now.
The number of subscriptions Sony would need to cover the cost of their first party, I don't think there is any world at the moment where Sony think day and date release of their first party in a subscription service makes any kind of sense. But yeah, I imagine they will start adding in PS4 games to PS Now which includes their first party games which are a few years old or MP focused.
Do you think Sony would put the likes of their first party in a subscription service? I find that incredibly hard to imagine, unless they charge stupid amounts like £25 a month or something silly like that.
Interesting. So Game Pass can be a way to accelerate the digital transition for microsoft.
I don't think SoD2 is seen so much as a live service. It will have at least 2 expansions, but beyond that we don't know much more. GoW could have expansions too without changing much the kind of game it is.
Yep I would agree with all of this.
General exposure is just so high being on GP that we are seeing that play out through the very things you mentioned. Its creating a scenario where games are getting marketed simply through their ease of access to consumers then spreading that message to friends / stream followers instead of traditional marketing means
Well PS4 downloads coming to PS Now has already leaked via a bug and Kotaku, the only question is how long it will take for Sony published games to appear on the service.
And if the posters on neogaf from 2013 are right, it's really hard to believe that this will be the last generation of consoles :(
Ori 2 isn't announced for GamePass, it seems like MS doesn't think so.
Game Pass might not boost sales of God of War but God of War would boost subscriptions for Game Pass... the ultimate end goal for all of this.
Dying Light had 13 million 'players'.
The Last of Us had 17 million units sold.
AAA Zombie games do sell.
Games are just hard to make.
Told people State of Decay was gonna surprise. It was doing really strong on the Xbox store. Even the 50 bucks Ultimate Edition
https://www.resetera.com/threads/st...p-paid-games-on-xbox-games-store.43553/page-4
https://www.resetera.com/threads/st...p-paid-games-on-xbox-games-store.43553/page-4
So I guess Sony will follow suit all the way then?
Still seems like it might hurt single player focused games like TLOU2.
Time to put that stupid "game pass trials!!!!" argument where it belongs, the garbage bin. Did not expect SoD2 to even chart to be honest.
No wonder MS was feeling so generous with their pocketbook. Looks like all 3 companies are doing well at the moment, that's a pretty nice variety for the top 20.
Edit: Don't know if it was mentioned, but did SOD2 open better than Gears 4 and Forza 7 in the US?
Edit: Don't know if it was mentioned, but did SOD2 open better than Gears 4 and Forza 7 in the US?
I am expecting this... but then again I'm expecting a strong June all around for HW.
Do MS published games appear instantly on release for game pass?
Honestly no I'm not expecting Sony to follow suit anytime soon. It just doesn't seem to follow the typical line of thinking that Sony pursues which is typically more traditional.
I think it's something that Sony are noticing and looking at but I doubt you'll see the next Gof of War or Horizon available in any type of subscription model from them.
Yeah so what do you think will be the PS4 games available for download on PSNow? Older stuff? Services games like GTS?
I think they should just roll it all into PS+ myself...just have tiers
Zombie fatigue will settle a day before Days Gone comes out
This is wrong. Thomas said this was simply because the deal for Ori 2 was made before Game Pass first-party launches were a thing. It simply isn't negotiated yet (and it's unclear if it will).
I think we have to wait for the game to near it's launch for it to be confirmed for GamePass. I doubt that Ori 2 won't be included in it since it's a first party game.
That sort of "critical mass" is likely, but I'm under the impression that FH3 already outsold GT Sport (both in total sales and also relative sales since launch). I'm trying to think who would be best to ping for a data point on that. Did you mean the franchise cumulatively (all-gen)?
It may hurt single player games short term but the gains they would make from subscriptions would be massive.
You get people in the door with a big hitter like TLOU2 and hope they stay with all the other content you are offering. That being said, I don't expect Sony to do this any time soon as they are doing fine with the current model. MS kinda has free reign for the next year or so and are going to be way ahead of the game when Sony finally jumps in.
Just wait and see how Game Pass subs jump with a new Halo and new, hyped single player games available on Game Pass day one. It's gonna be nuts.
I really wish they'd stop posting this. It means basically nothing. Sony is selling the PS4 split between 6-7 SKUs and and same with XB1. With the Switch only having two, it really doesn't mean much.
I can totally see them introducing something similar, or transitioning PS Now into their own Game Pass equivalent for the start of next gen. Like you said, MS generally take the lead when it comes to the services part of gaming (PS+ free games being a notable exception) and Sony see what works and then introduce it themselves later on.
I would have thought this a few months ago but although State of Decay 2 will have expansions it's really what we'd think of as GaaS. It's a fairly traditional game model unlike Sea of Thieves which has constant content dropping every couple of weeks and is the kind of game that will keep people subbed to a service.
Seeing SoD 2 do so well despite being on Game Pass shows that 'normal' games might also get a big boost to sales via Game Pass and there's no reason that wouldn't transfer over to games like TLOU 2, Days Gone, Death Stranding etc.
Like I said I don't think they'll introduce it this gen but I can see it happening at the start of next gen.
MS will be launching their next console and advertising the shit out of Game Pass and backwards compatibility as a means of increasing the launch library, providing added value and being able to keep hold of your current digital (and physical) library. PlayStation 5 having PS Now/Game Pass provides that same added value to people that are weighing up whether to spent $400 on a launch console.
The really interesting thing is going to be the fighting over which third party games get to launch on which platform's subscription service.
SoD 2 was pretty terrible for how long it took to come out so it'll be interesting to see how the sales are in the 2nd month after everyone got to see first hand all the problems it has. Sea of Thieves' 2nd month was so bad that a yakuza game outsold it and now it's not even in the top 20.
Kind of surprised Detroit sold as high as it did although without actual numbers I can't say exactly how impressive it is. Sony did market it surprisingly hard with lots of TV commercials including some during the NBA conference finals and on espn. I kind of expected them to do what they sometimes do with their smaller exclusives and "forget" that it came out and rely on word of mouth or their youtube page to sell it.
Kind of surprised Detroit sold as high as it did although without actual numbers I can't say exactly how impressive it is. Sony did market it surprisingly hard with lots of TV commercials including some during the NBA conference finals and on espn. I kind of expected them to do what they sometimes do with their smaller exclusives and "forget" that it came out and rely on word of mouth or their youtube page to sell it.
It means it's the best selling SKU so yes, it does mean something. There is no single Xbox or ps4 SKU that sold more. If a PS4 bundle was super popular it could be the best selling SKU but it seems sales are more evenly split for Xbox and PS4 amongst their myriad of skus
I wouldn't say State of Decay 2 is any more of a live game than something like Horizon Zero Dawn or The Last of Us or maybe even God of War? It's a really traditional game release. It will have two expansions. It doesn't have live gameplay updates or microtransactions or anything like that. I'd really struggle to call it a live service.
Forza Horizon 3 is way ahead of Gran Turismo Sports. It's "not even close".
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5201132/
And everything points to Forza Horizon 4 only becoming even bigger.
For context, were these other analysts, wholesale buyers, retail execs, etc? A lot of posters keep making the argument that retailers won't order more cause stock is sitting on shelves, but I imagine shipping those boxes is expensive so you'd want to make fewer orders.
"They" think it states what the best-selling SKU in the market is, which is quite meaningful, especially for those looking at velocities and optimization.
Sure, reorders will be made as stock sells through. I don't get the shipping argument. Labo in the context of a big box retailer isn't more expensive to ship or move than the average product. That seems... oddly specific a complaint.
Not anecdotes, more like a fact as stated by Phil Spencer. He said Game Pass players end up playing and buying more games.
GTAV will be on the NPD when Red Dead Redemption 2 comes out6. Grand Theft Auto V
SKU breakdowns can also tell us what consumers are prioritizing. If the PS4 Pro or a white Xbox One or a particular game bundle was selling 60% of the monthly total, it would give information on how attractive those features/games are vs a "vanilla" box.
But those 2 Wii U ports are outselling a bunch of games, not only Labo
Because a lot of people own a Wii U.....
And most of the games a year old are evergreen titles that outsells a lot of supposed high profiled AAA titles.