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Fans offer to cover budget to redo Star Wars: The Last Jedi
- Thread starter ASleepingMonkey
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The same people still melt down about it every opportunity, half a year later. It really is the Obama of Star Wars movies.
The funny thing is that TLJ is all about being able to let go of something so that it can become something new
I was listening to the Full Of Sith podcast the other day when the topic of fans came up. I had never been able to put into words what it is about Star Wars fandom and criticism that I really dislike - and more broadly internet reception - until I heard the host, Holly, explain it.
What Holly essentially said was that it is infuriating for an artist to get feedback from "fans" telling them how they should make their art. She wasn't dismissive of complaints and actual criticisms people have but she was very critical of people who constantly want to take over the artist's work. For a moment I sat back and wondered how that would feel as an artist and ultimately concluded that I agree with her. I'm all for critique and feedback but Star Wars fans and the like take it to an entirely new level. They want to be fans and have creative control of something they have no right to. If you don't like where Star Wars is going now, that's perfectly fine, but you aren't entitled to creative control of the franchise.
For every person who likes The Last Jedi, someone else dislikes it, but it's the latter camp who thinks they're owed something when the story doesn't go their way. Not everyone will enjoy everything, and the same thing applies here. Move on.
What Holly essentially said was that it is infuriating for an artist to get feedback from "fans" telling them how they should make their art. She wasn't dismissive of complaints and actual criticisms people have but she was very critical of people who constantly want to take over the artist's work. For a moment I sat back and wondered how that would feel as an artist and ultimately concluded that I agree with her. I'm all for critique and feedback but Star Wars fans and the like take it to an entirely new level. They want to be fans and have creative control of something they have no right to. If you don't like where Star Wars is going now, that's perfectly fine, but you aren't entitled to creative control of the franchise.
For every person who likes The Last Jedi, someone else dislikes it, but it's the latter camp who thinks they're owed something when the story doesn't go their way. Not everyone will enjoy everything, and the same thing applies here. Move on.
I honestly think that's such a great move on Rian's part. It makes Kylo's proposition even more powerful.
imo if people are mad about Space Bombs they're gonna be furious when they find out about Space Magic, which can lead to virgin births and let you choke people from across the room.
If you had a ship with artificial gravity and dropped bombs out of the bottom of it in space, they'd behave exactly like they do in The Last Jedi. They'd continue travelling in the direction of whatever the last force to act on them was, i.e. the gravity from the ship.
Hell, if you had a similar ship in the real world, where we don't have artificial gravity, if you propelled them out of the bottom of your ship by another means (conveyor, magnets, etc) they'd 'fall' like that.
I was just assuming that putting a metal object like the bombs in the presence of a large magnetic field like a rail gun would cause the bombs to become magnetized themselves. Either way though that doesn't matter since if you look at the area on the bomber where the bombs are dropped from they are just sitting there and then they fall out. There is no current going around them or anything like that, clearly they are not in some railgun or anything like that. I am honestly surprised so many people are trying to explain that scene. It was dumb just like the Kessel Run line, or the Tie Bombers dropping bombs in space. It almost seems like that since a group of nuts went so over the top in criticizing the movie initially that a different group goes way over the top trying to defend it.
You're cool with people being able to magically bring things from across rooms to their hands, but bombs falling in space is no good?
You know what really irked me about that character? The fact that I thought the filmmakers were pandering to the chinese cinema moviegoers just like Transformers 4 (i actually enjoyed some of that film).
You know, how for the last couple of years recent blockbuster films would insert pop music icons or product placement their films with popular chinese products because the growing movie market over has been tremendousely booming.
So while I enjoyed pretty much everything about TLJ, in the back of my mind I was pondering, "Is Rose a genuine character, or was Disney linking up with China like Paramount/Transformers?" I'm really mad I thought that. Dumbest part is she's not even chinese but her fam is from Vietnam.
Someone needs to have a Good Will Hunting moment with these nerds but instead of "It's not your fault" it should be
" it's ok not to like star wars" so they can move on with their lives. Maybe find something else
" it's ok not to like star wars" so they can move on with their lives. Maybe find something else
I mean I have a hard time imagining it will be worse than what we got.
It's really very simple: stuff falls down in the presence of artificial gravity, and in the absence of that gravity, will continue to move unless acted upon by an outside force.
The problem here is not the movie.
The idiots drown out and provide cover for the real glaring issues the film has.
Like re-make the movie shot for shot, or just re-edit the film?
Jesus Christ - how about putting that money and energy into something worthwhile?
Jesus Christ - how about putting that money and energy into something worthwhile?
This keeps going on and on. It's so pathetic.
Geeks need to realize Star Wars movies are not FOR geeks. They don't have to and shouldn't pander to geeks. That was the EU, and the EU was a mistake.
Geeks need to realize Star Wars movies are not FOR geeks. They don't have to and shouldn't pander to geeks. That was the EU, and the EU was a mistake.
If you watch a lot of movies and have a hard time imagining a fanfic film with fake pledge money being worse than The Last Jedi, a movie written by people still truly upset six months after release, I don't know what to tell you.
FADE IN:
INT. JABBA'S PALACE, NIGHT
A charred and blackened creature crawls into what was once the throne room of the galaxy's most feared gangster. Formerly a symbol of unassailable power, the once opulent palace is now abandoned, trashed and covered with alien graffiti. Breathing heavily, the wounded thing throws itself onto Jabba's old seat and smiles.
SALACIOUS CRUMB
(Deep, booming voice)
(Deep, booming voice)
Finally.
Crumb's laughter echoes throughout the palace.
I had no idea her hair was this hated either. Well now I have even more of a desire to cosplay as the character and dye my normal hair this color. BRING ON THE HATERS.
I'm laughing to myself just trying to imagine what this would even look like. Like how desperate would Disney have to be, when TLJ made a billion dollars, to say "Hey, random Twitter idiot, please collect writers and filmmakers to remake a movie that is six months old that made a crazy profit for a franchise that's we paid 4 billion for." What is the realistic end goal for these people?
I think with this we can officially declare that the Star Wars Super Fan might just be the scariest fan in existence.
Who knows what they could come up, maybe theyre very creative.
I mean yes I was being slightly hyperbolic here.
Why don't these guys go make their own series? It's okay to let go of something you used to live.
It's a great twist in that it perfectly mirrors the plot twist of Empire Strikes Back
