I'd rather not dig through 20+ pages. What is this about Chris having proof what she said was false and was it legit/verified?
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Chloe Dykstra Posts About Domestic/Sexual Abuse at the hands of Chris Hardwick
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He has texts suggesting he was the one that broke up with her and that she wanted to reconcile after their relationship ended. This is in no way disputes the abuse claims though.
I skimmed Anne Wheaton's twitter account and I'm not seeing this endorsement you speak of. The only thing on her account about this story is a like for the TMZ article, which doesn't actually tell you enough.
Like PlanetSmasher said, better wait for what people actually say before theorizing and coming up with conclusions.
Go to her likes. Let's not be naive here, we are all savvy enough to understand how things like this matter to fans. Meaning, if the TMZ "leak" matters, Chloe is the "crazy ex-gf" trying to ruin her ex-boyfriend's livelihood and marriage. Context matters, and no, I'm not waiting for Anne Wheaton's statement. People speaking up against stuff like this matters, especially at a time like this.
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I did, like I said, just the TMZ article. And pictures of dogs. The rest, which I thought might cause the confusion, are comments of support over Wil's depression... I don't remember what it was because I've seen links but didn't click, but I think he did something very recently where he talked about it, so...
I see you've edited now...
Of course people speaking up matters. And, sure, let's not be naive. But let's also not pretend we know these people and overanalyze everything.
Also, I just wanna say, the way you phrased it, "while Wheaton stays quiet, his wife is siding with Lydia on endorsing stuff like the TMZ 'leak'", that gives the impression she came out and actually said something about it when she didn't.
You might not care to wait for a statement, but at least don't paint anyone for readers here with anything until they actually said something.
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Due process? No one is demanding he go to jail. He is however, human garbage. That doesn't need a trial.
Because that's exactly what it is. The text is like five paragraphs about how her cheating hurt him and all we get from her texts are single sentences or words. They're deliberately meant to paint him as the victim in their relationship.
The fact that he ran to TMZ with these texts and his wife went to People also kinda feels like they're trying to shout her down from these big publications, it feels super gross.
Wow, this is getting ugly. It's really hard to call those texts "irrelevant" when she clearly stated she left him and he was begging her to stay.
Not saying it discredits her because it doesn't. It actually supports her claims being mentally abused. I've seen it first hand.
At the end of the day, it's best everyone just moves on. They both did what they needed to do to for closure. No one else really needs to get involved. Hopefully her career gets back on track and her message gets across.
Not saying it discredits her because it doesn't. It actually supports her claims being mentally abused. I've seen it first hand.
At the end of the day, it's best everyone just moves on. They both did what they needed to do to for closure. No one else really needs to get involved. Hopefully her career gets back on track and her message gets across.
Those texts seem like post breakup they were still friendly, then he found out she cheated, and decided to send her that lame wall of text.
Now Patty Hearst's daughter is involved blathering on about her truth and the thing's a complete shitshow.
Now Patty Hearst's daughter is involved blathering on about her truth and the thing's a complete shitshow.
She left him. Read the text carefully, he states that SHE LEFT HIM. That's after the break up, and they were on the "on again, off again" phase of the relationship. Don't let him conduct the narrative via TMZ, People and bullshit like that.
That text includes Hardwick saying that she left him and that he had begged her to stay. It doesn't bring those claims into question at all, and in fact confirms them
Sorry, i guess i confused both their stories. When she said he immediately got engaged after, i read it as she left him, he got clingy but she held her ground and stayed away.
this is some "reverse racism is the real racism" shit. like her taking comfort in the arms of someone who wasn't "starfishing" and demeaning her is even remotely equatable.
good riddance foh
"Chris Hardwick Dropped From Moderating WB/DC Comic-Con 2018 Panel"
Chloe's testimony is some pretty heinous shit and not to make light of that or anything, but... the whole Patty Hearst connection here is wild, man. Like what are the odds?
Chloe said he pressured her into working for him even though she was uncomfortable with it, since she's apparently all about not shitting where you eat. Seems like another control tactic by Hardwick.
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Should of left her for being a strumpet instead of abusing her.
I know it sounds terrible from thos of us supporting #metoo and Time's Up, but it should come as a shock to no one that a man's spouse and family are going to believe him over his ex girlfriend. Believe me, I wish they would, but it doesn't make them terrible, it just means they're listening to their biases.
I mean, who of us would react any differently? If you are currently in a great relationship with a person who you feel has never abused anyone before and then an allegation like this comes out, are you going to immediately turn on your SO? I mean really put yourself in that position.
Edit to add: I don't personally doubt Hardwick is an abuser from the evidence, to be clear. I just really feel these threads often hold friends and family who may not see the full picture to way too high a standard of dumping the accused in a flash.
I agree, but sometimes we get blinded by our anger and kind of lack perspective when it comes to judging people.
So you can't hold people close to you accountable? You don't need to "turn on your SO", but don't try to undermine the accuser. Especially after people have come forward supporting many parts of the accusations.
I don't even expect the family members of the Original Night Stalker to drop their family member unless he abused them somehow, and he's a legit evil monster. I would, but what I'm saying is it's not my place as a spectator to judge his family for their actions. So when people say Hardwick's wife supports him, I don't think that should be surprising, and I don't think that deserves criticism.
Depends on the type of support. If it's the "I stand by my SO through these hard times" type support, that's nothing too horrible. Supporting the SO by undermining the accuser and spreading the "lying, cheating, crazy bitch of an ex" narrative is not.
You should see other sites. Even when they were dating, Chloe was slagged left and right by goons and 4chan because she dated some minorly famous internet celebrity and he had shared her nude pics with the boards. So naturally for the longest time any Nerdist chat devolved into her being a "ditzy, attention seeking offensive-word-for-females-of-their-choice".
I don't visit those boards anymore and because of this story I won't. I don't know the truth more than anyone and I've listened to his podcasts since the second or third Nerdist, yet i won't defend him and especially insult her out of some loyalty. Fuck him.
I'm just saddened by the whole thing because I genuinely liked his content. Especially the podcast. But no more. Assholes don't get my support.
Didn't Weinsteins wife leave him after things came out?
What throws me off about this case is that no one else has come me out against Chris. He has had a number of past relationships but as far as I know, his exes haven't said anything at all. With most of these Hollywood scandals, once the first accuser comes out, others usually follow days later.
Just because he's possibly not a serial abuser doesn't mean he didn't abuse Chloe.
Edit: My iPad is acting up.
There are producers coming out saying that Chloe got blacklisted because she was his ex. This is about emotional abuse in long term relationships and how we normalize sexual abuse like the "starfishing" thing. Not all #MeToo cases will be like Weinstein's, but that doesn't make Chloe's abuse story less damaging to her. Not sure what is so hard to understand here.
All it says to me is that they don't want to be the next target of the social media mob. I'd certainly stay out of it even if I believed him...
Stands by him in a "she hasn't divorced him and plans to stick with him through this hard time" way or stands by him in a "she's going around bad-mouthing everyone who accused her husband of raping them" way? If the former, I guess more power to her if she can somehow justify being with a convicted serial rapist. I'm not sure if it says anything too good about her in such a clear cut and extreme case of, what, dozens of rapes? It doesn't necessarily make her a bad person but I'd personally not want to be assossiated with people who continue relationships with serial rapists. If it's the latter, then she's a pretty shitty person altogether.
Don't know what that has anything to do with my post, though.
Usually family members circle the wagons with loved ones especially if they've only seen the good side.
Not saying it's right, just that happens
The latter. Point being, a significant other standing by their partner while they're being accused of harrassment or impropriety is not at all evidence that they are innocent.
Yeah, she was dating Lemon Demon for a while. He leaked her nude pics and then said later he didn't actually do it and everyone needed to remove them because she may have been underage when she sent them to him - because apparently that wasn't as bad...? It was Serious Internet Drama on Something Awful like 10 years ago. It was like the douchiest soap opera for a while.
I'm so glad I stopped visiting those sites.
The apparent real story is otherwise in all aspects.
Check out the thread on SA by Lowtax. It's currently not pay walled.
Chloe herself posted a blog about it refuting those claims.
https://bedizen.livejournal.com/
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See, this is why I hate small communities online full of assholes. They skew the narrative.
And? How is that related to anything I said?
Someone said "of course SOs stand by their partner" and I just pointed out that there's a difference between standing by their SOs and going around bad-mouthing the accuser(s) even with people starting to corroborate the accuser's story. It's ok to do the former, it's not ok to do the latter.
I said nothing about SOs standing by their partner saying anything about their innocence.