I'd rather not dig through 20+ pages. What is this about Chris having proof what she said was false and was it legit/verified?
He has texts suggesting he was the one that broke up with her and that she wanted to reconcile after their relationship ended. This is in no way disputes the abuse claims though.I'd rather not dig through 20+ pages. What is this about Chris having proof what she said was false and was it legit/verified?
I skimmed Anne Wheaton's twitter account and I'm not seeing this endorsement you speak of. The only thing on her account about this story is a like for the TMZ article, which doesn't actually tell you enough.But I'm not judging Wheaton or anyone. What I'm saying is that while Wheaton stays quiet, his wife is siding with Lydia on endorsing stuff like the TMZ "leak". I see people urging others to call out him and others that are staying quiet as a necessary evil, but not something I'd do.
I skimmed Anne Wheaton's twitter account and I'm not seeing this endorsement you speak of. The only thing on her account about this story is a like for the TMZ article, which doesn't actually tell you enough.
Like PlanetSmasher said, better wait for what people actually say before theorizing and coming up with conclusions.
I did, like I said, just the TMZ article. And pictures of dogs. The rest, which I thought might cause the confusion, are comments of support over Wil's depression... I don't remember what it was because I've seen links but didn't click, but I think he did something very recently where he talked about it, so...
Of course people speaking up matters. And, sure, let's not be naive. But let's also not pretend we know these people and overanalyze everything.Let's not be naive here, we are all savvy enough to understand how things like this matter to fans. Meaning, if the TMZ "leak" matters, Chloe is the "crazy ex-gf" trying to ruin her ex-boyfriend's livelihood and marriage. Context matters, and no, I'm not waiting for Anne Wheaton's statement. People speaking up against stuff like this matters, especially at a time like this.
It's a shame that no such thing as due process exists anymore.
Sounds like a smokescreen/deflection job.He has texts suggesting he was the one that broke up with her and that she wanted to reconcile after their relationship ended. This is in no way disputes the abuse claims though.
Because that's exactly what it is. The text is like five paragraphs about how her cheating hurt him and all we get from her texts are single sentences or words. They're deliberately meant to paint him as the victim in their relationship.
Wow, this is getting ugly. It's really hard to call those texts "irrelevant" when she clearly stated she left him and he was begging her to stay.
Not saying it discredits her because it doesn't. It actually supports her claims being mentally abused. I've seen it first hand.
At the end of the day, it's best everyone just moves on. They both did what they needed to do to for closure. No one else really needs to get involved. Hopefully her career gets back on track and her message gets across.
Wow, this is getting ugly. It's really hard to call those texts "irrelevant" when she clearly stated she left him and he was begging her to stay.
It's some how making things more complicated.Surely the involvement of Patty Hearst will make this situation less complicated.
So does she get a free pass for cheating? As someone who has been cheated on, that is mentally abusive as well. People are pretending like she is some perfect person who did nothing wrong.
Yes, he won't moderate any panels.Has he lost the panels at Comic Con this year yet? Or has it just been the AMC show so far?
"Chris Hardwick Dropped From Moderating WB/DC Comic-Con 2018 Panel"Has he lost the panels at Comic Con this year yet? Or has it just been the AMC show so far?
Is he joining the SLA? What did I miss here?
The fact Hardwick was shitting where he ate (dating a subordinate at work) says a lot. That's just basic Ethics 101.
Lydia Hearst, Hardwick's wife (in case you were unaware) is in full support of him:
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/lydia-hearst-chris-hardwick-not-sexual-abuser-statement-1201977667/
So, no more ambiguity about that, if there was before now.
Lydia Hearst, Hardwick's wife (in case you were unaware) is in full support of him:
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/lydia-hearst-chris-hardwick-not-sexual-abuser-statement-1201977667/
So, no more ambiguity about that, if there was before now.
I mean, who of us would react any differently? If you are currently in a great relationship with a person who you feel has never abused anyone before and then an allegation like this comes out, are you going to immediately turn on your SO? I mean really put yourself in that position.I know it sounds terrible from thos of us supporting #metoo and Time's Up, but it should come as a shock to no one that a man's spouse and family are going to believe him over his ex girlfriend. Believe me, I wish they would, but it doesn't make them terrible, it just means they're listening to their biases.
I mean, who of us would react any differently? If you are currently in a great relationship with a person who you feel has never abused anyone before and then an allegation like this comes out, are you going to immediately turn on your SO? I mean really put yourself in that position.
So you can't hold people close to you accountable? You don't need to "turn on your SO", but don't try to undermine the accuser. Especially after people have come forward supporting many parts of the accusations.I mean, who of us would react any differently? If you are currently in a great relationship with a person who you feel has never abused anyone before and then an allegation like this comes out, are you going to immediately turn on your SO? I mean really put yourself in that position.
I don't even expect the family members of the Original Night Stalker to drop their family member unless he abused them somehow, and he's a legit evil monster. I would, but what I'm saying is it's not my place as a spectator to judge his family for their actions. So when people say Hardwick's wife supports him, I don't think that should be surprising, and I don't think that deserves criticism.So you can't hold people close to you accountable? You don't need to "turn on your SO", but don't try to undermine the accuser. Especially after people have come forward supporting many parts of the accusations.
Depends on the type of support. If it's the "I stand by my SO through these hard times" type support, that's nothing too horrible. Supporting the SO by undermining the accuser and spreading the "lying, cheating, crazy bitch of an ex" narrative is not.I don't even expect the family members of the Original Night Stalker to drop their family member unless he abused them somehow, and he's a legit evil monster. I would, but what I'm saying is it's not my place as a spectator to judge his family for their actions. So when people say Hardwick's wife supports him, I don't think that should be surprising, and I don't think that deserves criticism.
So you can't hold people close to you accountable? You don't need to "turn on your SO", but don't try to undermine the accuser. Especially after people have come forward supporting many parts of the accusations.
You should see other sites. Even when they were dating, Chloe was slagged left and right by goons and 4chan because she dated some minorly famous internet celebrity and he had shared her nude pics with the boards.
Didn't Weinsteins wife leave him after things came out?Can anyone remember a spouse of an abuser coming out and saying "Yeah, they ARE a piece of shit"? I can't.
Didn't Weinsteins wife leave him after things came out?
What throws me off about this case is that no one else has come me out against Chris. He has had a number of past relationships but as far as I know, his exes haven't said anything at all. With most of these Hollywood scandals, once the first accuser comes out, others usually follow days later.
Didn't Weinsteins wife leave him after things came out?
What throws me off about this case is that no one else has come me out against Chris. He has had a number of past relationships but as far as I know, his exes haven't said anything at all. With most of these Hollywood scandals, once the first accuser comes out, others usually follow days later.
I agree, but them not jumping to his defense immediately, or now even days later, is stating quite a lot.
Stands by him in a "she hasn't divorced him and plans to stick with him through this hard time" way or stands by him in a "she's going around bad-mouthing everyone who accused her husband of raping them" way? If the former, I guess more power to her if she can somehow justify being with a convicted serial rapist. I'm not sure if it says anything too good about her in such a clear cut and extreme case of, what, dozens of rapes? It doesn't necessarily make her a bad person but I'd personally not want to be assossiated with people who continue relationships with serial rapists. If it's the latter, then she's a pretty shitty person altogether.
Stands by him in a "she hasn't divorced him and plans to stick with him through this hard time" way or stands by him in a "she's going around bad-mouthing everyone who accused her husband of raping them" way? If the former, I guess more power to her if she can somehow justify being with a convicted serial rapist. I'm not sure if it says anything too good about her in such a clear cut and extreme case of, what, dozens of rapes? It doesn't necessarily make her a bad person but I'd personally not want to be assossiated with people who continue relationships with serial rapists. If it's the latter, then she's a pretty shitty person altogether.
Don't know what that has anything to do with my post, though.
Yeah, she was dating Lemon Demon for a while. He leaked her nude pics and then said later he didn't actually do it and everyone needed to remove them because she may have been underage when she sent them to him - because apparently that wasn't as bad...? It was Serious Internet Drama on Something Awful like 10 years ago. It was like the douchiest soap opera for a while.
I'm so glad I stopped visiting those sites.
The apparent real story is otherwise in all aspects.
Check out the thread on SA by Lowtax. It's currently not pay walled.
Chloe herself posted a blog about it refuting those claims.
https://bedizen.livejournal.com/
https://bedizen.livejournal.com/
And? How is that related to anything I said?The latter. Point being, a significant other standing by their partner while they're being accused of harrassment or impropriety is not at all evidence that they are innocent.