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Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
6,119
This is why we have a resurgence of white nationalism. They're afraid they're dying out and can't see that a multi ethnic country is better for everyone.

I personally can't wait until old white idiots don't hold a huge percentage of the vote anymore

Bingo!

Also I had never read the term "self hating white" before this thread. That's... one for the uncomfortable bucket list I guess.
 

Oddish1

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,821
Eh, I don't think anything will majorly change due to this, politics wise. The definition of "white" is going to change rather than people moving away from white nationalism. We're going to have mixed children who embrace their white identity only.
 

PhazonBlonde

User requested ban
Banned
May 18, 2018
3,293
Somewhere deep in space
Bingo!

Also I had never read the term "self hating white" before this thread. That's... one for the uncomfortable bucket list I guess.
Right? These "racism against white people" replies...

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Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
It's things like this that make me roll my eyes at anti-immigrant people. Like, fucker, you need population growth to fuel an economy and native-borns aren't producing enough babies.
 

Gluka

Member
Oct 25, 2017
368
White supremacist millennials despise boomers for this becoming a reality under their watch much more than Iraq or the recession. More than anything else, it seems like the biggest consequence that this is likely to have is higher adoption of reactionary ideologies out of white existential panic. You're already seeing it today and it's only going to get worse.
 
Jun 10, 2018
8,851
Eh, I don't think anything will majorly change due to this, politics wise. The definition of "white" is going to change rather than people moving away from white nationalism. We're going to have mixed children who embrace their white identity only.
Agreed.

IMO, every mixed race baby that is not visibly black will be welcomed into the white majority. We've already seen elements of this in the WM/EAF pairings and their offspring, along with the fairer-skinned Latinos identifying as white based on their own cultural caste systems. The field is only going to expand further IMO, despite the objection of some of the more extreme white nationalists. Because, after awhile, maintaining power and control will simply matter more than preserving "pure" bloodlines.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,214
The mixed race bit is really important.

"For example, the child of a white mother and Hispanic father would be counted as Hispanic, even though research shows that many such mixed children — about 11 percent of all births, according to Richard Alba, a sociologist at the City University of New York — are not unlike white children in terms of residence, family income, schooling and eventually, marriage."


I'm white, but my children will be half Hispanic. But they are probably going to look white and share my white privilege. So not counting them as white in a census is kind of stupid. Whiteness is not just about genetics.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,365
Well.

Whites were a minority in apartheid South Africa.

Given the wealth of minorities here in America, I could see us resembling South Africa in a way in about 20-25 years. A smaller but wealthy White, White/Hispanic and maybe Asian upper class, with a majority Native, Black and Brown lower class. A more equally diverse population doesn't mean much for changing outcomes since one race controls the majority of money.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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User warned: Accusing someone of lying about their race without evidence.
I'm a PoC but some of the comments here are outright racist.

You don't have to lie about your color to make this stupid point about "self hating whites" Those people are just "free thinkers", you'd say if they were any other color.

Really, white people making those kinds of comments that directly state an interest in declining facism and actual fucking racism don't need your "black friend" disapproval because you want to switch places with them or some bullshit

Eh, I don't think anything will majorly change due to this, politics wise. The definition of "white" is going to change rather than people moving away from white nationalism. We're going to have mixed children who embrace their white identity only.

Exactly. "Hispanics" are largely white and have been waiting to join full whiteness like the Irish did before they were seen as white. We're going to start see "Eurasians" become a big thing too. Other groups will definitely take the bones thrown their way to join the privileged

Plenty of front runners who will gladly join the majority to keep everyone else down. If the same systems are in place, the rest of us won't be gaining as much as we should.
 

Beartruck

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,939
Agreed.

IMO, every mixed race baby that is not visibly black will be welcomed into the white majority. We've already seen elements of this in the WM/EAF pairings and their offspring, along with the fairer-skinned Latinos identifying as white based on their own cultural caste systems. The field is only going to expand further IMO, despite the objection of some of the more extreme white nationalists. Because, after awhile, maintaining power and control will simply matter more than preserving "pure" bloodlines.
Yup. It's worth noting that, once upon a time, Irish people weren't considered "white".
 

Shadybiz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,124
As a white guy...meh...this is fine. Only racist morons would see an issue with this, so fuck 'em. I'm not self-hating or anything, but hey, variety is the spice of life.

Shame about the drug overdoses, though; it's getting to be a bigger and bigger problem.

Despite demographic change, whites — and in particular less educated whites — will still make up the bulk of eligible voters in the country for a while. Whites without a bachelor's degree will make up 44 percent of eligible voters in 2020, said Ruy Teixeira, a political scientist who did a broad study of demography and politics this spring. College-educated whites will be about 23 percent. Mr. Teixeira said Republicans could continue to win presidential elections and lose the popular vote through 2036 if they did even better among whites who had not graduated from college, while other voting patterns held steady.

That is giving politicians incentives to emphasize issues, like immigration and race, where there are the biggest differences in views by education. A class divide has been growing for years among whites. In 1988, there was no difference between whites with a college degree and those without, Mr. Teixeira said. Both voted for George Bush over Michael Dukakis by a 20-point margin. By 2016, Mrs. Clinton lost noncollege whites by 31 points, double Mr. Obama's 2012 loss, while carrying college-educated whites by seven points.

This bit is frightening. Prey on the fears of people who are uneducated and use only one news source (cough, Fox, cough). From the mouth of the moron in Chief himself, "I LOVE the poorly educated!"
 

sapien85

Banned
Nov 8, 2017
5,427
This is what Trump and republicans are trying to reverse. They can't increase white numbers so gotta bring down others across the board.
 

IggyChooChoo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,230
Yup. It's worth noting that, once upon a time, Irish people weren't considered "white".
Italians, Greeks, Eastern Europeans, Jews, pretty much all Catholics — you name it. HP Lovecraft wrote in his personal letters about his intense racial terror of Slavs. It wasn't even that long ago. People are surprisingly flexible in their prejudices except for one unchanging constant: that black people are forever on the bottom. Brazil has a pretty mixed society, a self-conception as a "racial democracy" where the one-drop rule doesn't exist, and most people have at least a little African ancestry. But that doesn't stop the general prejudice against darker-skinned people, when, say, cops pull people over, unfortunately.
 

Stretch

Alt-Account
Banned
Jun 21, 2018
30
It's always so perplexing. It's not good for your health to be so self loathing/despairing, it's going to change hardly anyone's mind if they're the type of person you could win around, and it feels like it would harm your ability to be an effective ally if your first reaction to stuff is to be in a funk about your own ethnicity rather than adressing the needs and concerns of POC.

It honestly reads like a bunch of spoiled brats. "Wah, I like totally hate my skin color because we are just like SO TERRIBLE" * waits for pat on the back from a PoC *

Oh yes, this moping attitude will most certainly help change the current racial environment we are all living in folks!
 
Jun 10, 2018
8,851
You don't have to lie about your color to make this stupid point about "self hating whites" Those people are just "free thinkers", you'd say if they were any other color.

Really, white people making those kinds of comments that directly state an interest in declining facism and actual fucking racism don't need your "black friend" disapproval because you want to switch places with them or some bullshit



Exactly. "Hispanics" are largely white and have been waiting to join full whiteness like the Irish did before they were seen as white. We're going to start see "Eurasians" become a big thing too. Other groups will definitely take the bones thrown their way to join the privileged

Plenty of front runners who will gladly join the majority to keep everyone else down. If the same systems are in place, the rest of us won't be gaining as much as we should.
There is still a strong stalwart of black Hispanics who want to be added to the fray, thanks to the bullshit fed to them by their former governments.

Thankfully, a lot of them are starting to wake from the indoctrination and realize, within the context of global perception, they're viewed as being no different than any other black person. A number of groups - like the Dominicans and Cuban immigrants who moved to NY - had to learn the hard by experiencing discrimination and brutality, but they're starting to get it.
 

Beef Supreme

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Oct 25, 2017
5,073
I'm from Houston and I'm pretty sure white people are already the minority here. I, as a white person, am not the slightest bit bothered by it. Actually, my marriage to my beautiful Puerto Rican wife has helped the process.
 

sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
European-heritage Hispanics, mixed Eurasians, light skinned South Asians, Persians, Arabs, and Turks will all get folded into the white category before whiteness loses its power.
 

Zoe

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Oct 25, 2017
14,273
I'm white, but my children will be half Hispanic. But they are probably going to look white and share my white privilege. So not counting them as white in a census is kind of stupid. Whiteness is not just about genetics.
Hispanic isn't a race to the census anyway. As generations become more removed from the culture, they'll be less likely to check that box.
 

Blindy

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Nov 16, 2017
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Pretty sick some of the celebration of more deaths in humanity than lives being inhabited in this thread. Regardless of skin color, things like depression, unhealthy living take a vice grip upon anyone and we need to find out better solutions towards combating the like.

There is nothing good to see a trend of people dying more than it is people being born.
 

YoungFa

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
205
Pretty sick some of the celebration of more deaths in humanity than lives being inhabited in this thread. Regardless of skin color, things like depression, unhealthy living take a vice grip upon anyone and we need to find out better solutions towards combating the like.

There is nothing good to see a trend of people dying more than it is people being born.
Absolutely! We, as a species, have to get breeding to outnumber the aliens for the upcoming space wars.
 

Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
9,921
Pretty sick some of the celebration of more deaths in humanity than lives being inhabited in this thread. Regardless of skin color, things like depression, unhealthy living take a vice grip upon anyone and we need to find out better solutions towards combating the like.

There is nothing good to see a trend of people dying more than it is people being born.

What.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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It honestly reads like a bunch of spoiled brats. "Wah, I like totally hate my skin color because we are just like SO TERRIBLE" * waits for pat on the back from a PoC *

Oh yes, this moping attitude will most certainly help change the current racial environment we are all living in folks!

The cucks and white woman will one day rue the day right?

Pretty sick some of the celebration of more deaths in humanity than lives being inhabited in this thread. Regardless of skin color, things like depression, unhealthy living take a vice grip upon anyone and we need to find out better solutions towards combating the like.

There is nothing good to see a trend of people dying more than it is people being born.

In context, the celebration of the predominant hegemony weakening is sick? The hegemony that celebrate and perpetuates the depression and unhealthy living for not just themselves but other groups?

Nah

You don't get to separate the historical and ongoing context from this to now use racial discrimination as a shield for the group that benefits the most from racism.

People are happy or not concerned because the group that props up discrimination and marginalization won't be as dominant- no one hates white people for their skin color like the groups who are actually hurt by racism
 

caliph95

Member
Oct 25, 2017
35,205
Pretty sick some of the celebration of more deaths in humanity than lives being inhabited in this thread. Regardless of skin color, things like depression, unhealthy living take a vice grip upon anyone and we need to find out better solutions towards combating the like.

There is nothing good to see a trend of people dying more than it is people being born.
I don't think people are seeing this as more white people dying and more of a shift in demographics and lower birth rates

I don't agree with the self defeatism I don't think people are being bloodthirsty

And decline in birth rates does not mean necessarily what you probably think it means, for developed countries and with minorities tending to be poorer it means there's no incentive or pressure to have a family
 

WaffleTaco

Community Resettler
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,908
Well yeah. Considering people used to have 5-8 children and the vast majority of people are only having 1-2, this is not surprising at all.

Am I reading the incorrect article or am I wrong in being alarmed that a certain group of people are dying more frequently than being created for various reasons?

Think for a moment why there are less white people being born before becoming alarmed. What could be a possible reason for this?
 

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Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
8,424
Phoenix, AZ
Yes the country will be better off as a result, there are statistics to back this up

Am I going to get banned now?
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,467
I'm.not having a kid if I can't even afford healthcare you stupid fucking idiots. Maybe help out the non-rich and we might have kids you dumbasses.
 

TheMango55

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Nov 1, 2017
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I might actually see social security after all when i'm old.

Nope, this makes it less likely.

Social Security is like a pyramid scheme. It requires more people working and paying in to support the ones retired and drawing social security. People living longer and fewer people being born are both working against Social Security's future.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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Oct 25, 2017
13,550
Agreed.

IMO, every mixed race baby that is not visibly black will be welcomed into the white majority. We've already seen elements of this in the WM/EAF pairings and their offspring, along with the fairer-skinned Latinos identifying as white based on their own cultural caste systems. The field is only going to expand further IMO, despite the objection of some of the more extreme white nationalists. Because, after awhile, maintaining power and control will simply matter more than preserving "pure" bloodlines.

I didn't realize it was this bad. I guess i was naive to think that over the years white supremacy bullshit would just fade away.
 

Blindy

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Nov 16, 2017
3,929
Think for a moment why there are less white people being born before becoming alarmed. What could be a possible reason for this?
Of course one of the main points would be pertaining to interracial marriage which there is absolutely nothing wrong with but I just don't see how people are celebrating the alarming death rate occurring in a certain group of people surpassing the birth rate. Is that not cause for concern over what those underlying factors might be? Some of the posts on the first page are pretty sick which is what my initial post was referring to.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Pretty sick some of the celebration of more deaths in humanity than lives being inhabited in this thread. Regardless of skin color, things like depression, unhealthy living take a vice grip upon anyone and we need to find out better solutions towards combating the like.

There is nothing good to see a trend of people dying more than it is people being born.

Actually HUMANITY is fine. Humanity does not equal white people and the fact that you think it does proves white hegemony should go far away never to return
 

Blindy

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Nov 16, 2017
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Actually HUMANITY is fine. Humanity does not equal white people.
They do consist a part of it though, how is it good that a mass group of people are dying for reasons that these researchers haven't necessarily uncovered yet? Because of asshole radicals who don't speak for all people of a race? That warrants some people saying good and wanting it to happen some more in this thread?
 

LosDaddie

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,622
Longwood, FL
This isn't a new trend, nor is it exclusive to the USA. Birth rates are declining in nearly all 1st world countries. And it's not limited to whites either, like some are hoping.

But I don't really see this trend as real a problem. The total population of the world isn't decreasing. So countries are just going to have to change their immigration laws to compensate for population loss.

And despite what some may hope, other minorities aren't eager to join the GOP.


I'm a PoC but some of the comments here are outright racist.

This thread is peak nihilism lmao. The (self) hate is real.

No doubt, but expected.
 
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