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Easy Allies |OT| The New Era
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Such a good episode. I had to rewatch a few portions of the conversation because I got distracted watching Ian.
*quiet claps*
I was so fixated on him the entire time. He seemed so distant, yet was eating that chili with speed. I thought I was watching a bit.
I was expecting an "Okay, Huber, I'm ready" then a sharp cut to the logo.
Yeah... we're not going to benefit from ignoring a cancer and hoping it cures itself on its own.
I like the Top 10 number cards. Cute.
That's why I watched The Force Awakens. Yes the characters were good but boy was it bad.
Regardless of how you feel about the content (I don't like the fan service either) there are far better ways to address it than putting people down. There are people out there who are angry because they want a reason to be angry and they'll be spewing hatred wherever they're posting, but there are people who feel put down by a throwaway comment from Damiani. Words matter and on the internet, a passing comment can alienate people. It wasn't showing L&R in that moment as there were far better ways to express his thoughts on the matter.
I hope people drop this topic soon. It's getting back into territory of different EZA communities trashing each other and is pitiful to watch.
I've been following online gaming communities for long enough that I no longer care about any offense caused toward these people.
Good to know where you stand when it comes to respecting people even when you disagree with their tastes.
I want the Allies to have as much financial stability as absolutely possible. For that reason, it saddens me if they have lost some patrons. However, those people who dropped were trash people (if they dropped over Damiani's comment), so at least they know that their money is a little cleaner now.
Hopefully, any damage will be fairly negligible.
I think they were sitting around 52800~, they're at 52633 at the moment.
There may have been a couple patrons that dropped, but that's mostly from a D&D patron moving down to the $25 tier.
Getting offended by someone saying, be a better person and not buy this game, is pretty thin skinned. Even if you want to use the L&R defense what Damiani said was not mean spirited. He didn't say you were a bad person, an idiot, or any other insult for buying it. He simply said you would be a better person for not buying it, which could even assume you are already great person. The subtext to me is that by not buying it you are not rewarding the publisher for using fan service and the objectification of women as a way to sell a game. He wants people to use their wallets to reject such practices. No where did he ever say you were a bigot or a misogynist for buying this game. Just like a lot sites at one point asking people not to preorder games, were not telling their readers they were idiots if they did anyway.
So I can't even say for sure he intended it as an insult, but what I do know is like clockwork people out themselves as actual bigots and misogynists anyways in an attempt to demonstrate they feel slighted. Which to me is the real story to this non story. Reminds of the people getting mad about Bethesda's anti nazi campaign for Wolfenstein 2, or the historical accuracy people reacting to BFV, or the people that got outraged at NPR for quoting the Declaration of Independence on July 4th. Actually they aren't being insulted or maligned or attacked, but thanks for letting us know where y'all stand.
So I can't even say for sure he intended it as an insult, but what I do know is like clockwork people out themselves as actual bigots and misogynists anyways in an attempt to demonstrate they feel slighted. Which to me is the real story to this non story. Reminds of the people getting mad about Bethesda's anti nazi campaign for Wolfenstein 2, or the historical accuracy people reacting to BFV, or the people that got outraged at NPR for quoting the Declaration of Independence on July 4th. Actually they aren't being insulted or maligned or attacked, but thanks for letting us know where y'all stand.
I don't think the amount of patrons dropped? Maybe 1? I wouldn't get too hung up on it, Patreon is always gonna be pretty fluid.
In other news I'm loving a lot of the new wacky comedic stuff. I wouldn't have thought Ian sitting there eating chilli would be so funny.
In other news I'm loving a lot of the new wacky comedic stuff. I wouldn't have thought Ian sitting there eating chilli would be so funny.
I honestly sent Huber a concerned text before it was posted because I thought it was a mistake.
LOL that's awesome. The shot was just framed so perfectly too.
It stays hot in Socal for a while so a new studio should still help!
Also, there generally is a lot of fluctuation near the end of the month for the Patreon. People are reassessing how much they can/want to contribute and making changes before they get charged at the start of the next month.
My favorite moment from the Huber Syndrome is when they flash the names of the people Ian wasn't included
Also I think you guys might have forgotten to unlock the Huber Syndrome
Also I think you guys might have forgotten to unlock the Huber Syndrome
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If these people who get so offended that someone looks down at them for buying video games that exist for the lone reason of objectifying women aimed their anger toward something that actually fucking matters, perhaps we wouldn't be in the mess we're in currently.
I say this as someone who still enjoys the Dead or Alive fighting games and isn't boycotting Xenoblade for its designs or anything like that.
The only time these nerds get passionate about anything is when someone attacks their taste in video games.
I say this as someone who still enjoys the Dead or Alive fighting games and isn't boycotting Xenoblade for its designs or anything like that.
The only time these nerds get passionate about anything is when someone attacks their taste in video games.
I'm not even that into Damiani and I feel compelled to up my pledge today, too.
There are absolutely games that make you a lesser person for liking them. If people want to perv out on anime characters that's their business. But they have no reasonable expectation not to be judged for it.
Each ally has 9 cuts. Hmm...
So, I'm pretty sure there's a video for each ally saying each number from 10 to 2. And 3 variations of the whole group with the number one.
So they can make each Top Ten with different variations.
Pls someone confirm my theory
To drop my hat into this ring, I find the existence of SNK Heroines to be an insult to the legacy of SNK itself, which has almost always had, at least in its fighters, fantastic (and sensible) female character designs that don't needlessly pander to this kind of shit. See this thread for evidence.
Your interpretation makes total sense. I'm pretty sure you're right, especially considering what Blood said earlier in the thread.
If Damiani's totally lukewarm take on SNK has this much of an uproar, it's no wonder the Allies tend to tread so carefully around these topics. The Senran Kagura thing was clearly a joint decision so it's not like it's just Damiani who feels this way.
To get real controversial for a moment: the fact that this many of those kinds of people consider themselves fans of EZA does irk me. More and more I feel like ignoring them or dismissing concerns with the 'show L & R even though you disagree' responses isn't gonna cut it. The reason outrageously stupid things like the backlash to women in BF V happen is because these online communities are coddled by a lot of the industry, for reasons such as they give money via Patreon.
To get real controversial for a moment: the fact that this many of those kinds of people consider themselves fans of EZA does irk me. More and more I feel like ignoring them or dismissing concerns with the 'show L & R even though you disagree' responses isn't gonna cut it. The reason outrageously stupid things like the backlash to women in BF V happen is because these online communities are coddled by a lot of the industry, for reasons such as they give money via Patreon.
The issue Dmax is that when your approach to dealing with these issues is to make blanket insults to people online, people are going to get more defensive and won't be willing to listen to what you have to say. Also consider that the ideals that you think are important (in this case respectful presentation of women in games) clashes with how you yourself treat others online by doubling down on the insults. If you want to do something other than nothing, go ahead but your actions are more important than what you have to say because how you say something is going to have more weight online particularly when you're focused on a moral question.
I also don't think you have any right to value who should or should not be a fan of EZA.
I also don't think you have any right to value who should or should not be a fan of EZA.
Jeez that thread on reddit is rough and super telling that only the negative posts are the ones that get any action. I listen to plenty of podcasts where I feel like I get "personally attacked" if you could even call it that by the host, but damn I don't run crying to the internet about it.
You want this subject to die don't you? stop defending channers or gamegaters, most people in this forum me included doesn't like them.
Let people talk what they have for now instead of discuss with it, that will prolong the subject.
You clearly lack reading comprehension so let me spell it out in a way that you might be able to grasp.
1. I think fan-service in games particularly in the SNK case is bad.
2. Communicating with people about why it's bad/unhelpful etc is something I support if the goal is to change minds and communicate what why you find it unhelpful.
3. Communication online loses a lot of the nuisances that allows people to have a continued discourse like they would if it were in person.
4. People get defensive if you insult them and when they are defensive, they are less likely to want to engage but rather attack back.
5. The motto of EZA is Love & Respect even when you disagree with someones opinion.
6. Put these together and you have a very straightforward path to take on how to communicate your opinion whilst being firm on what you think is right without personal attacks.
7. I believe the EZA community attacks each other too much which is why I want to bring a sane voice to this conversation.
8. (Bonus point) Believing there are only 2 approaches to this with the first being a gamergater and the second explaining why SNK Heroines is bad in the way that you see fit to do is incredibly narrow minded,
When your online persona is like that Eylos, you're practically on the same level as some of the extreme cases on the subreddit.
I would agree with you but you can't have an honest discussion with these people, they are trolls. You're basically saying 'be nice with how you treat sexists' which I can't get on board with.
I can value whatever I want btw, and I certainly value certain parts of this community over others.
Enough though, I'm ready to move on.
You offended me and asked people to not offend other people. And talked about love and respect.
There might be one person out there who you can engage with though. Not everyone is going to stonewall your approaches and I think it's worth every effort if it's something you believe in.
I'll drop the topic as well but do consider that there are people out there who will listen even when some are unwilling to change their mind.
Sorry Eylos but I don't have much patience today for someone who read my post and equated it with defending gamergaters. It's an extremely long leap you took and I do not want my posts grossly misinterpreted like that. If it came across as too aggressive that's on me.
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