"Don't Let Colin Trevorrow Gaslight you Into Thinking 'Book Of Henry' Is Anything But Garbage"

Plasticine said:

It's pretty straight forward, really. Brad Bird recommended him to Kathleen Kennedy. She and Frank Marshall watched Safety Not Guaranteed and were impressed. JA Bayona had passed on Jurassic World, so Marshall decided to hire Trevorrow. He also had Spielberg's approval as well.

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Damn, I didn't know Bayona passed on JW1. Had he taken it, he would have worked with a different screenwriter I'm sure and Trevorrow probably wouldn't be a part of this series.

Makes me wonder what could have been.

Nimurai said:

Talk about failing upwards jesus christ. Same thing with RJ to a lesser degree.

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No way. RJ had been making films well before he was tapped for Star Wars. Brick, The Brothers Bloom, and Looper are all good-to-great films. Dude's easily made better films than JJ in my opinion.

Cypher said:

>gaslight

Yikes, such a gross, toxic exaggeration. Y'all should calm down over some popcorn flick director.

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He's trying to make the movie into something it never was. Gaslight fits.

OK I am brown and book of Henry is a piece of crap but why his race being inserted in the OP . Why not call the movie and it's defense wrong and that's it

UnpopularBlargh said:

He's trying to make the movie into something it never was. Gaslight fits.

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It's a movie and it's his opinion . Inconsequential.

Jurassic World was dull with unlikable characters and Book of Henry was hilarious. Haven't seen the others. Thank god this guy isn't on Star Wars.

Nappuccino said:

Rian Johnson has a lot of good work under his belt. The man clearly has chops. Get out of here with that.

You should watch the behind the scenes features for JW. Half of Treverow's direction was "Look there and scream!" They also intentionally made sure Pratt wasn't funny. Pratt talks about wanting to improv and say a funny line, and the hardest thing about the role was making sure he doesn't.

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Ugh if you aren't gunna develop him as a character at least let him be funny.

Hollywood loves giving one hit indie guys million dollar movies do they?

This is the first time I saw that "bridezilla" comment. To think people actually defended that scene.

J_Viper said:

Trevorrow hasn't produced anything as terrible as TLJ's opening prank call or Canto Bight

I haven't seen JW2 yet though

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Bullshit.

ViewtifulJC said:

How did this become another thread for nerds to complain about TLJ?

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That's Era's secret, Viewtiful. We're always complaining about TLJ.

Addleburg said:

Damn, I didn't know Bayona passed on JW1. Had he taken it, he would have worked with a different screenwriter I'm sure and Trevorrow probably wouldn't be a part of this series.

Makes me wonder what could have been.

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He's talked about it a bit doing the promo rounds for Fallen Kingdom. He wouldn't have had enough pre-production time in the schedule to develop the script enough to his liking. Which is ironic, because as soon as Trevorrow was hired, he told them he wanted to rewrite the script. The studio obliged and then delayed the film so they could get the script right.

Rvaan said:

All threads lead to TLJ

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and the piece of shit movie it is. fact.

Khanimus said:

Bullshit.

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Seriously wtf did Spielberg see in this dude!

Khanimus said:

Bullshit.

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This is terrible

But it also is a deleted scene

starfox said:

and the piece of shit movie it is. fact.

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There is something fundamentally wrong with people who have a grudge against a solid 8/10 film.

I thought Rogue One was garbage and the last scene tricks you into thinking it was good, you don't see me posting it in every thread.

Thisman said:

OK I am brown and book of Henry is a piece of crap but why his race being inserted in the OP . Why not call the movie and it's defense wrong and that's it

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He made one minor comedy that few ever saw and got Jurassic World and Star Wars. If he was a woman or a minority, he would still be making indie movies.

ArgyleReptile said:

Listen to the Double Toasted Review and watch this vid and you'll be all caught up.

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This is a great video if you want to learn about filmmaking.

J_Viper said:

This is terrible

But it also is a deleted scene

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It was filmed at all.

Not to mention the deleted scene in JW2 that Trevorrow scripted in which the vet lady announces herself as gay while telling Chris Pratt she'd totally be all over him if she wasn't.

He wrote that, on a submitted draft of a script, and it was filmed.

It takes a hell of a hack to make a super-vicious death scene at the hands of a giant prehistoric sea monster boring and problematic... all while being completely pointless and inconsequential to the plot.

And then his explanation just makes it worse

Bravo, sir.

Fisty said:

It takes a hell of a hack to make a super-vicious death scene at the hands of a giant prehistoric sea monster boring and problematic... all while being completely pointless and inconsequential to the plot.

And then his explanation just makes it worse

Bravo, sir.

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Meanwhile, the supposed villain(Dallas Howard is clearly the real villain) gets an offscreen death.

Khanimus said:

Bullshit.

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This reminds me of TLJ's milking scene. Whew.

But at least this was deleted.

Kyoufu said:

This reminds me of TLJ's milking scene. Whew.
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Luke milk drinking scene is great

mreddie said:

Hollywood loves giving one hit indie guys million dollar movies do they?

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I get the thinking around it, about getting in on the ground floor for what could possibly be the next big thing for the profession, but I think that we see that plopping them down in front of a major blockbuster production that's already being largely controlled by other factors has been giving a lot of hopeful directors out there the wrong idea, which is why we get so many stories about the ego trips that some of these guys go on, or those that burn out fast on that kind of filmmaking. It practically feels like a lifetime ago that Warner Bros. wanted Christopher Nolan for Batman Begins, but wanted to make sure he had the goods by giving him smaller scale studio project like Insomnia to prove himself. It'd be really hard to imagine that happening today.

Plasticine said:

He's talked about it a bit doing the promo rounds for Fallen Kingdom. He wouldn't have had enough pre-production time in the schedule to develop the script enough to his liking. Which is ironic, because as soon as Trevorrow was hired, he told them he wanted to rewrite the script. The studio obliged and then delayed the film so they could get the script right.

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Christ. That's a shame.

J_Viper said:

Trevorrow hasn't produced anything as terrible as TLJ's opening prank call or Canto Bight

I haven't seen JW2 yet though

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I really dislike those two portions of last jedi as well, but the movie was still overall pretty great

And Jurassic World was basura

Khanimus said:

It was filmed at all.

Not to mention the deleted scene in JW2 that Trevorrow scripted in which the vet lady announces herself as gay while telling Chris Pratt she'd totally be all over him if she wasn't.

He wrote that, on a submitted draft of a script, and it was filmed.

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I'll take that five times over the prank call tbh

Disco said:

I really dislike those two portions of last jedi as well, but the movie was still overall pretty great

And Jurassic World was basura

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That's definitely true, TLJ's best moments are some of the greatest in the genre. It's a shame there is so much garbage sprinkled in between.

The lesson here is that both Trevorrow and Johnson should stick to camera work and let other folks take care of the writing for them

J_Viper said:

The lesson here is that both Trevorrow and Johnson should stick to camera work and let other folks take care of the writing for them

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A) Directing isn't solely or even necessarily about camerawork.

B) Johnson wrote Brick and Looper, so claiming he should steer away from writing is silly. He's certainly got a far better track record than Trevorrow.

DanGo said:

A) Directing isn't solely or even necessarily about camerawork.

B) Johnson wrote Brick and Looper, so claiming he should steer away from writing is silly. He's certainly got a far better track record than Trevorrow.

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Looper has one hell of a first half, but once the kid enters the picture, it completely crumbles. Haven't seen Brick.

Ozymandis is his greatest work as a director though. That might be my all time favorite episode of television.

Nerfgun said:

good lord what is this ...

I don't like any of this guy's movies, not even Safety Not Guaranteed (what a cop out of an ending!) but this hit piece is the trashiest, axe-grindiest thing I've seen in a while

"don't let him gaslight you into thinking..." like, put the bottle down, get a hobby

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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's like he personally hurt the person writing in some way.

Nimurai said:

I am talking about post TLJ. I thought it was okay, but give him the next trilogy fine? No.

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You said he "failed upward." And now you're clarifying that you mean post-TLJ?

... You mean after he made the most profitable film of 2017? It's somehow failing "upward" to be given more movies?

No, that's wrong.

Khanimus said:

Bullshit.

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It's a bad bit, but her hiking up her skirt so you can see her smearing the poop on her thigh is... makes me assume stuff about Trevorrow.

HotHamBoy said:

This is a great video if you want to learn about filmmaking.

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Or how not to write / direct female characters.

Nappuccino said:

Or how not to write / direct female characters.

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Often by learning what not to do is the best way to approach a craft

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Often by learning what not to do is the best way to approach a craft

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Oh yeah. I'm actually working on a story where a character's finances are part of his central conflict. Well, I now have a good grasp on what not to do lol. Thanks Colin.

*Colin Trevorrow directs movie that sets the record for fastest to a billion dollars.*

ERA: "Why do does this guy still get to direct?!!"

Lmao

Gaslighting? Just seems like a mediocre director covering up for/in denial about his bad movie and just bullshitting around. Nothing that unusual, really. There's probably a better argument to be made that a contingent of resentful Star Wars nerds, in their clumsy attempts at discrediting Rian Johnson's entire filmography, are actually gaslighting the internet.

Dan's other video bout Book of Henry, is also well worth a watch.

Trevorrow is totally right though. Don't you guys remember that scene in A New Hope where Luke barges into the rebel base and goes "God dammit Janice."

Surface of Me said:

*Colin Trevorrow directs movie that sets the record for fastest to a billion dollars.*

ERA: "Why do does this guy still get to direct?!!"

Lmao

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Basically. I'll never understand the seething hatred this place has for him.

The writing in his movies are vapid and incredibly stupid, but I don't think he means any illwill. Still, JW was such a safe franchise bet that ANY competent director would've been easily able to make a billion from that.

starfox said:

and the piece of shit movie it is. fact.

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I'm incredibly mixed with TLJ (IMO old cast was developed great, but the new casts' arcs were uninteresting to terrible), but the fact that so many of you are pissed off at the movie enough to bring that baggage into other threads is making hope that Rian Johnson succeeds Kathleen Kennedy just to rustle the jimmies of you bunch. STOP.

Spyder_Monkey said:

Trevorrow is totally right though. Don't you guys remember that scene in A New Hope where Luke barges into the rebel base and goes "God dammit Janice."

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Luke was dead focused on Uncle Owen's financials.

ZeoVGM said:

You said he "failed upward." And now you're clarifying that you mean post-TLJ?

... You mean after he made the most profitable film of 2017? It's somehow failing "upward" to be given more movies?

No, that's wrong.

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If we are going by profitability Jurassic World was a massive hit, which invalidates this entire argument.

What I was trying to say was that the RJ getting a trilogy was somewhat adjacent to this, but I could have worded it better. "Failing Upwards" specifically was meant for CT.

I did say "to a lesser degree", maybe I should have added a "much" not to get everyone so riled up about it. And there was no possible way that TLJ would not be extremely profitable as the follow up to TFA. It would have been even if we had CT directing TLJ.

What I was trying to allude to was that it was supposed to be a slam dunk, and everyone including me expected it to be much better than TFA after all the hype pre-release. Everyone was saying stuff like "now we got the nostalgia stuff out of the way, now we can get started for real!" before it came out. I'm not saying star wars is ruined or any of that crazy bullshit, but this current trilogy has lost some momentum due to it. There is no doubt about that. This narrative that it's some masterpiece that only SW fanboys hate because of their reasons isn't true. The general consensus seems to be lukewarm/good not great. Some like it, some don't, but at the very least it didn't manage to build enough momentum towards episode 9. Again, not terrible but not enough to get handed a trilogy. That is my OPINION and of many others, not only crazy fanboys.

(Them giving DB Weiss And Benioff a trilogy? Something star wars? is much MUCH worse though, and reeks of "GoT is a huge hit! Let's get those guys!" that development is much more worrying)

And as I said before, I only happened to mention this shit in passing, I wasn't trying to make some huge statement, I PERSONALLY thought it reminded me SOMEWHAT of RJ. But I should have known better than to even mention anything related to TLJ. Might as well start talking about Pineapples on pizza or Israel.

I really liked Safety Not Guaranteed. A one hit wonder.

J_Viper said:

Looper has one hell of a first half, but once the kid enters the picture, it completely crumbles. Haven't seen Brick.

Ozymandis is his greatest work as a director though. That might be my all time favorite episode of television.

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I thought the second half of Looper was better than the first. That kid fucked shit up in the best way.

Metallix87 said:

Basically. I'll never understand the seething hatred this place has for him.

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I don't feel that strongly about it, but you have PLENTY of examples of why people don't like him listed in the OP.

Khanimus said:

It was filmed at all.

Not to mention the deleted scene in JW2 that Trevorrow scripted in which the vet lady announces herself as gay while telling Chris Pratt she'd totally be all over him if she wasn't.

He wrote that, on a submitted draft of a script, and it was filmed.

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That's not a deleted scene. I think i remember it in the actual film unless I'm mistaken.

Also, I still don't get the hate for the Leia scene. Did something different play in your theater?

I don't know if gaslighting is the term I would use, but it does seem like how Wisseau tried to claim The Room was a dark comedy and not a Tennessee Williams drama as originally intended.

Also, Trevorrow made a lot of people a lot of money. That's why he's still getting to work (despite the bad quality of his writing and direction, because who cares about quality if it makes money?).

Finally, The Last Jedi is the best directed Star Wars film to date even if people don't like the characters/story.

Khanimus said:

Trank's career died after his first big break. Trevorrow is being given repeat chances.

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This doesn't make sense.

Trank created a 150mil dollar bomb. Trevorrow's 10mil dollar pet project sucked, so he's going back to his billion dollar franchise. He's not really getting repeated chances, if you're going back to the film series your still the creative head for.

What's funny about IX is that it was Kennedy's husband and Kennedy who interviewed him for JW and her Husband who hired him.

This dude really hates women huh

this movie was so aggressively stupid, like completely bizarre but using cliche bullshit at the same time. we gotta get the bullet out to save him? insane. but, i felt the same was about infinity war. just a weird series of insane beautiful bullshit passing across the screen for a few hours.

sprsk said:

This dude really hates women huh

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This is short film



Dude is a misogynistic nut

Fork said:

I bet most of the people that call him a hack havent watched anything else that hes made.

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I wouldn't be surprised honestly.

Messofanego said:

The Last Jedi really made people lose their goddamn minds lol

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Truly :/

I didn't even like TLJ but come on people. Get over it.

MDS said:

Please don't gaslight me by saying Looper was "good".

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Well fair enough. I'll say it has some really good things in it, like Jeff Bridges and Emily Blunt, a cool ass hoverbike, cinematography, tone and the whole Paul Dano situation, but it falters by trying to be too many movies at the same time and having Sleepy Willis in it. Still better than anything i've ever seen from Trevorrow.