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No Depth

Member
Oct 27, 2017
18,308
I uttered words I never use, and treated people I have lived with and committed my life to serve in an unacceptable manner.

Yeah no. You know the words. You use them all the time or you wouldn't have used it now. POS
"Two minutes can change a life. In an emergency medical situation, two minutes can save a life. But can two minutes erase a quarter-century of a person's life and commitment to serving and caring for his community and those entrusted to his care? I hope not."

That quote right there tells me everything. What he's really saying is, "I don't want there to be any consequences for my actions, it really sucks for me that this was recorded.".

Yep and yep. This wasn't a mere moment where emotion took hold and swallowed all pretense. He didn't immediately apologize and come to his senses after an accident. He chose instead to kick everyone out and call the cops.

He made no effort to take a breather, consider his actions, and negative thoughts, and rationalize the situation.

He caused a scene, said some horrific things to people in his community.

Then he called the cops.

He called the cops.

Because something fell over amidst a crowd of grieving people.
 

JigglesBunny

Prophet of Truth
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
31,164
Chicago
I say this as a Catholic, his status in the church wouldn't mean a thing to me if this ever happened at a funeral for one of my family members. Not even being an internet tough guy, I just know that both the majority of my family and I would lack the restraint to keep our composure.

The second the words "get this thing out of here" left his lips, he would have truly seen the gates of hell open before him. Major respect to the family for being so calm.
Dude needs to get laid...
Let's not encourage him.
 
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Majukun

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,542
you would think that a man of churc would need a bit more of a push to go on such a rant...maybe the day was already not going great for him way before that.

this being said, of course it's not an acceptable conduct,let alone way before a funeral,but it's not up to me to decide punishment not up to me to concede forgiveness or not
 

Deathman

Member
Oct 25, 2017
599
Yup. Thats the catholic church for you. Give the mask a second to slip and they show their true colours. We've had shit like this in Ireland for years and for some reason people still trust them.
 

DonShula

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,841
This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.
 

Deleted member 3058

User requested account closure
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,728
This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.
Why are these types of posts always so mealy mouthed? Say what you mean.

"Two minutes can change a life. In an emergency medical situation, two minutes can save a life. But can two minutes erase a quarter-century of a person's life and commitment to serving and caring for his community and those entrusted to his care? I hope not."

That quote right there tells me everything. What he's really saying is, "I don't want there to be any consequences for my actions, it really sucks for me that this was recorded.".
Exactly
 
Oct 28, 2017
27,169
I have never seen any legit man of any cloth act in such a manner. I get the chalice is a big deal but show some couth and respect for heavens sake.
 

kickz

Member
Nov 3, 2017
11,395
What a despicable puke, years of service my ass.

Its a damn cup, whats more important material stuff or actual people...

This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.

Oh please, the clown's inner character came out. He deserves everything he gets
 

Pilgrimzero

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,129
I'm not defending what the priest because he was completely in the wrong did but people keep saying "it's just a chalice". It wasn't JUST a chalice. He describes it as "sacred" and used for Mass which probably means it was a blessed object. And to religious people of that faith and especially a priest that object is held to a higher standard than a mere mundane object.

Still doesn't excuse his actions though

Take that as you will.
 

PhoenixDawn

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,615
A sacred chalice? Give me a fucking break. It's some mail order shit that can easily get replaced from the same place he gets his holy water from. There's no reason that an accident by a grieving family should cause them to get berated and thrown out of a funeral. And especially not call the cops on them...
 
Oct 31, 2017
2,423
It is still an object. Blessed or not, especially when a family is mourning the death of a loved one. You can get a new chalice and bless it again.
At any rate he shouldn't keep that position.
 
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MBeanie

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,875
What a deranged psychopath, causing that much fuss over a probably ugly as hell cup. You have to be one evil fucker to traumatize a mourning family like that.
 
Oct 28, 2017
27,169
A sacred chalice? Give me a fucking break. It's some mail order shit that can easily get replaced from the same place he gets his holy water from. There's no reason that an accident by a grieving family should cause them to get berated and thrown out of a funeral. And especially not call the cops on them...


Priest was a straight up jerk, no doubt but i think you might be selling the importance of the cup short. I'm not catholic so I don't presume to say what is important enough to call "sacred" but i know when the Pope came to Philly last year there was a lot of Pomp & Circumstance.
 

Ensorcell

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,466
This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.
When he takes FULL responsibility in the apology maybe it can be taken more seriously. The man obviously has major anger issues. If he still wants to help his community, is he going to get help? Is he recognizing he has a problem? We don't know from that apology but you expect us to take it seriously?
 

ElectricBlanketFire

What year is this?
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,881
This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.
This is the weirdest take I've ever seen on Era and GAF combined. The man flipped out and angrily cancelled a funeral over a cup.
 

stupei

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,801
The amount of absolute bullshit society just expects black women to bear is unbelievable. I know I speak from a place of privilege as a white woman, but if someone had behaved like this at my mother's funeral I don't know how I could have kept calm. This woman's incredible.

This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.

Ever buried a close family member? Fuck this guy.
 

Jackpot

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,827
This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.

The guy literally blames it on a phantasm of the mind and goes "why are you angry at me, it was the guy who took over my brain for a few minutes that did this."
 

PhoenixDawn

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,615
Priest was a straight up jerk, no doubt but i think you might be selling the importance of the cup short. I'm not catholic so I don't presume to say what is important enough to call "sacred" but i know when the Pope came to Philly last year there was a lot of Pomp & Circumstance.
Unless someone else has more experience with it and corrects me, I was always under the impression these were just things that were either passed on from the past or ordered online and then blessed by the priest or some visiting holy leader if they're lucky. I always have just thought the sacred part comes from it being a metaphor/symbol for what Christ used. They're certainly pretty expensive I would imagine given they're probably filled with gold/silver (this site seems to support that http://www.stempers.com/C/Chalices/6474) but I still think it's pretty excessive and I think the "sacred" is more symbolic than anything probably.
 

PMS341

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt-account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,634
My anger spilled out in a torrent. I uttered words I never use, and treated people I have lived with and committed my life to serve in an unacceptable manner. Instead of care and compassion for the grieving family and friends, my focus turned to anger.

A lot of racists like to cower behind religion, but god damn this is a new low. Can't even be honest.
 

Akira86

Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,594
well the church isn't going to relocate him for that, so he'll either have to make amends or just get side eye from the local community that doesn't support that, and support from those that do.
 

PMS341

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt-account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,634
This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.

He acted like a racist, not a dick. Call it like it is. His apology is meaningless and exists only to save face.
 

8byte

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt-account
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
9,880
Kansas
I've never had sympathy for religion, and I'm not about to start now. Inanimate objects can be recreated, people cannot. The idea that something is sacred, even before the life of a human being, is an absolute joke to me.

This is the primary reason I could never get into religion as a child. My aunt took me to her catholic church regularly, and every time, as a 6 year old child, I was bothered with all of the gold, the lavish decoration, huge windows, all of which were in stark contrast to the images of Jesus & company, poor, no shoes, eating bread on dirt floors and old wooden tables...it just seemed so artificial and exploitive.

I feel so terribly for that family, to have to see their loved one over shadowed by something someone made and deemed "sacred". To see their day of grief, mourning, and reflection on life, turned into a circus. What a shame.
 

DonShula

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,841
Why are these types of posts always so mealy mouthed? Say what you mean.

I did say what I meant and I don't know what you're implying. People shit all over the apology and I found that hilarious in light of the usual "not even an apology" comments. Dissecting the apology for ill intent also seems useless and therefore comical. I don't know if doing that makes people feel better about the situation or what.

Ever buried a close family member? Fuck this guy.

Yes.
 

El_TigroX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,221
New York, NY
I'm sure the Catholic Church will handle this properly and appropriately, as they have for all priests that cause public and personal offense - they will quietly shuffle him off to another parish and pretend it never happened.
 

Dali

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,184
The cops tried to mediate?

You know it's the end of days when cops are the calm voice of reason over a priest.

I hope that piece of shit at the very least loses his job but you can rape kids and stay kosher with the Catholic church so I doubt yelling at some black people will garner much blowback.
 

Shadybiz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,125
Yeah...priests can be racists and assholes as easily as anyone else. Film at 11.

If there was any extra cost involved in moving the venue, this church needs to pay for it, too.
 

DigitalOp

Member
Nov 16, 2017
9,292
This thread is hilarious. Should be saved for posterity the next time we have one of those infamous ERA "forgiveness" threads.

The priest acted like a dick, but sweet Jesus, some of these responses to the apology.

Just because you don't give a damn doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't.

You think pretty words makes up for cancelling a funeral and disrespecting a family?

How about don't be douchebag, then you don't have to apologize for shit.
 

citrusred

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,964
I did say what I meant and I don't know what you're implying. People shit all over the apology and I found that hilarious in light of the usual "not even an apology" comments. Dissecting the apology for ill intent also seems useless and therefore comical. I don't know if doing that makes people feel better about the situation or what.

I mean it takes him four paragraphs before he actually says he's sorry and doesn't explain his actions in any of them so its not a stretch to think are person won't take it at face value.
 

Deleted member 3058

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just because you don't give a damn doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't.

You think pretty words makes up for cancelling a funeral and disrespecting a family?

How about don't be douchebag, then you don't have to apologize for shit.
Not opening your "that isn't the real me" + "moment of anger" apology with a "hey, please be easy on the consequences" plea also helps
 

TalonJH

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,881
Louisville, KY
I'm not defending what the priest because he was completely in the wrong did but people keep saying "it's just a chalice". It wasn't JUST a chalice. He describes it as "sacred" and used for Mass which probably means it was a blessed object. And to religious people of that faith and especially a priest that object is held to a higher standard than a mere mundane object.

Still doesn't excuse his actions though

Take that as you will.

That's fine but it should be stored when events and funerals are held. When you have a lot of people in one place eventually something is going to be broken if not secured.
 

ninjabot

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
734
This is terrible. My heart goes out to the family and I hope for some kind of strict punishment for this priest. I honestly don't know what would be appropriate enough to ease the pain of the family and prevent this asshole from ever getting the opportunity to do something like this again. It's genuinely disgusting to me.

How do you even apologize for something this horrible? You can't. There's literally nothing this man can say that makes "Sorry about disrespecting you and your dead relative during your time of mourning" sound sincere, or comfort the family. We have signs that tell you to drive by the house of a mourning family slowly as not to distract them from their mourning session, as it's something required to help with closure. This guy went way beyond that. There's no telling what emotional damage he's done.