Suing common cheaters users is a dick move. Minor or not, you don't ruin a family's life for something like that.
You IP ban them and get over it.
You IP ban them and get over it.
In the US I believe you can't enter into a contract with a minor, so if she didn't approve him playing it, Epic can pack this up and go home.
Suing common cheaters users is a dick move. Minor or not, you don't ruin a family's life for something like that.
You IP ban them and get over it.
The comparison you're making doesn't ring true because the times were different. When I was a kid, I wasn't put in a safety seat in the car (it wasn't law yet). When my parents were kids, child car seats weren't even made for the purpose of safety. Obviously things are quite different today. So we can't accurately compare the care or judgement of todays parents vs. their parents or grandparents in this regard, can we? We can only look at parents ideals within the context of their time. Having a kid today means that a parent should be aware of certain things that their parents didn't have to worry about at all. One of those things being the internet/being online. This includes gaming online and the use of social websites and applications.
Now there are a myriad of factors that could play into this mother's approach and decisions. As such, it's not fair to armchair judge her. However I don't buy the logic that she would have thought nothing of him being online or what he was doing. Every parent in the last 20~ years has been made aware of dangers, inappropriate content, and more recently the ability of kids to hurt others (cyber-bullying) online. Maybe she trusts her son. Maybe she's a single mother who works too much to be able to watch closely. Maybe a dozen things. But the excuse that she would think online anything was completely innocuous just doesn't seem likely.
It's almost like understanding that he is a cheater is important to understand all the following complaints...
At the end of a day, a great parent can still have a child make shitty decisions.
What about when the parent finds out the kid was doing shitty things and continues to let them keep doing it?This is the most important takeaway from situations like this. Do not start casting blame.
That, too is an assumption based on predetermined outcomes.What about when the parent finds out the kid was doing shitty things and continues to let them keep doing it?
Not really. He has released a video admitting he did everything he is being accused of after the lawsuit and his Mom's letter. You really wouldn't consider it being a good parent to maybe restrict his internet usage at that point. I am pretty sure my parents would have kept me from doing things if I had pending litigation.
Not really. He has released a video admitting he did everything he is being accused of after the lawsuit and his Mom's letter. You really wouldn't consider it being a good parent to maybe restrict his internet usage at that point. I am pretty sure my parents would have kept me from doing things if I had pending litigation.
I see. I'm curious to see how this plays out.The kid is an employee of a company who profits over hurting Epic's business. This isn't about an EULA violation.
The kid is an employee of a company who profits over hurting Epic's business. This isn't about an EULA violation.
No I am not a parent but I was a child who did stupid things as well and my parents took steps to stop me from continuing the activity if it warranted it. In the event of me committing a cyber crime I am pretty sure my parents would have confiscated my computer while the trial was still pending at the very least. Hand waving away that you can't stop a 14 year old is ignoring the nature of this crime involving the internet and computer his parents are providing to him which they could take from him.Perhaps his mother isn't as computer literate. Perhaps you can't stop people from doing what they're bound to do. There's a million and a half reasons why he may have been able to do that, and someone who is already known for making unsound decisions isn't expected to start making sound decisions on the turn of a dime, especially when they're still in "science has proven that my brain can't process logical consequences correctly" mode.
I have a question: are you a parent?
What is the source of this claim? It certainly isn't alleged in the complaint
According to the complaints, both defendants seem to offer technical support for AddictedCheats.com and, with cheats the site provides, monitor streams and intentionally prevent streamers from winning.
You're mistaken. The original Kotaku article which the mod quoted doesn't name names but the followup Kotaku article does in fact confirm one of the two defendants is 14 years old.Okay so you guys are conflating entirely different lawsuits. The addicted cheats people have nothing to do with this kid
The two defendants referenced there are Charles Vraspir and Brandon Broom
You're mistaken. The original Kotaku article which the mod quoted doesn't name names but the followup Kotaku article does in fact confirm one of the two defendants is 14 years old.
Could he have used a cell phone?No I am not a parent but I was a child who did stupid things as well and my parents took steps to stop me from continuing the activity if it warranted it. In the event of me committing a cyber crime I am pretty sure my parents would have confiscated my computer while the trial was still pending at the very least. Hand waving away that you can't stop a 14 year old is ignoring the nature of this crime involving the internet and computer his parents are providing to him which they could take from him.
Kotaku is wrong then, not me. This kid was not even sued until 2 weeks after that article was written
Charles Vraspir and Brandon Broom were sued on 10/10 for being moderators and support staff for AddictedCheats
Caleb Rogers was sued on 10/23 in response to his DMCA counterclaim
They have nothing to do with each other
So I found a corroborating source from torrentfreaks of all places.
https://torrentfreak.com/epic-sues-fortnite-cheaters-for-copyright-infringement-171012/
They even have copies of the civil claims uploaded. This was some shoddy reporting on Kotaku's part especially by their editors who should've sussed out the unrelated trials.
The video was made while he was playing GTAV so no pretty sure it was on his PC. I am pretty sure I would not be hanging out with friends if I had just opened my parents up to a lawsuit.Could he have used a cell phone?
Could he have used his friend's cell phone or computer?
A tablet?
His mom's Kindle Fire?
I mean, come on. The only thing being handwaved is the fact that no parent can truly control their child once they hit the age of self-actualization.
He was on twitch playing Pubg in the last few days.The video was made while he was playing GTAV so no pretty sure it was on his PC. I am pretty sure I would not be hanging out with friends if I had just opened my parents up to a lawsuit.
Could he have used a cell phone?
Could he have used his friend's cell phone or computer?
A tablet?
His mom's Kindle Fire?
I mean, come on. The only thing being handwaved is the fact that no parent can truly control their child once they hit the age of self-actualization.