I'm telling you guys, the CW is just a money laundering scheme.
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2018-19 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Perfectionist Horseman commits perjury, held In Contempt
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Lost had some of the most memorable characters to ever grace an hour-long drama from like... the very start. I don't think Manifest has that or will have that.
Lost also managed to stay fresh most of the time, even if not everyone liked the direction. When it was starting to feel as if it is was spinning its wheels and not going anywhere (first half of season 3), they announced when the show would be ending and the pace never really slowed down from the end of season 3 onward.
The OT died after a few episodes. Literally no new posts.
Final ratings:
Dancing with the Stars: Juniors - 0.7
Winner!
Fail!
Dancing with the Stars: Juniors - 0.7
Winner!
Fail!
That's what I figured. If a show improves when no one is watching, does it make a sound?
Eh, it was already in last year's thread. But if people want to throw a vote towards it for some reason, then whatever.
The "10 more years" thing was explicitly about the franchise as a whole - they weren't saying that The Walking Dead is going to be on the air up to season 19.
If the main show's ratings keep getting worse and worse, there is no 10 year plan. The TV franchise will simply end.
They haven't even proven that they can handle one spin off correctly, let alone continuing a declining franchise into the future with more spinoffs.
I mean, that's quite a leap to make. And the ratings will keep getting worse because that's what happens to literally 99.99% of all shows over the course of their lifespans.
Fear the Walking Dead is one of the most successful and profitable cable series in history so I'm not sure what you mean there.
So I discovered something pretty funny, none of the CW shows will be airing on regular Canadian networks this year, only specialty/basic cable. For example, normally The Flash would air on CTV/CTV2 then later on Space (they're all owned by Bell) but this year no Canadian network is airing it at all (unless I missed it). Arrow/Legends of Tomorrow/Supernatural will only air on Space (Bell), All American/Charmed on W Network (Corus), and Legacies/Supergirl on Showcase (Corus). I don't think any of the other shows (Flash, Black Lightning, Riverdale, Dynasty, Crazy Ex) will air on Canadian networks at all. Guess Canadian networks are done with these low rated shows and them starting after everything else. I've been saying it for the last few years but the CW really needs to start their seasons before the other networks, not after them.
Riverdale, Black Lightning, and Dynasty are Netflix again this year, I believe, but you're right, not on networks. All of CW's remaining line-up is so fragmented in Canada. I figured someone like Crave would grab them all up, or at least the Canadian version of CBS All Access would try and do it.
What really surprised me and what caused me to look into this is when I saw The Flash wasn't on any Canadian network at all tonight or for the next week. It seems Bell just dropped it completely. Why wouldn't they throw it on Space with their other shows?
Very true, unfortunate Space wasn't able to keep them all together. There was a Netflix Canada video showing The Flash having new episodes in October, but no date attached. Hopefully it'll be like Black Lightning and be the next day.
Yes, and if it keeps getting worse, this 10-year-plan becomes less doable. That's my point.
Lol I haven't watched the finale but this is so fucking interesting in every possible way.
I know you go to bat for this show a lot but come on, you know the 10-year-plan is not going to work out for AMC.
It absolutely is.
Look at the ratings for both shows - TWD is still huge and FtWD is very respectable. Now look at the ratings for the rest of AMC's lineup. They could launch a new WD universe series that's getting half the ratings of FtWD's most recent season and it would still get at least 4 seasons. AMC owns TWD's film and TV rights and they make huge amounts of money off it - money that isn't wholly dependent upon ratings.
You also need to keep in mind that their "10 year plan" wasn't limited to airing Walking Dead series on AMC - they're open to licensing the IP out to other channels and streaming services, and films are also on the table. They're planning a foreign version that could be fully funded by Sky or RTL or Canal or NHK or Yes Oh or Foxtel or whatever channel that wants it bad enough.
There's absolutely no reason to believe that The Walking Dead franchise won't last another 10 years - outside of giving in to the ridiculous hyperbole that permeates any discussion of The Walking Dead or AMC in general.
Well, I took the "10 year" comment specifically as TWD on AMC so that's fair.
But I think you're really overestimating how long the franchise as a TV show has left.
Oh yeah, Fox is making a sequel to David Carradine's 'Kung Fu'
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For the multitude of fans this IP surely has, I certainly hope not!
LOST was far from perfect but it legitimately had some of the best character writing of any show on television, even to this day. Even when the show would get messy it had a flat out incredible cast / ensemble with strong character writing behind it
I still remember this show because an episode was filmed across from my house at the local school. lol
Wait, I really thought that The Flash was still airing this year on CTV or CTV2... WTF?
So, how Canadians will be able to watch the new crossover event in December?
The Flash will now be on Netflix Canada, but it's still unknown if it's next day like the other CW shows (it only says "new episodes starting in October" at the moment).
So I guess the crossover event would go Netflix Canada (potentially a day late for Flash, so on the same day as Arrow) > Space (for Arrow) > Showcase (Supergirl).
Damn, it's a real mess for Canadian viewers now.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks like CTV dropped every superheroes tv show that they were airing?
Arrow, The Flash, DC's Legends of Tomorrow, The Gifted, anything else?
It will probably be the same thing for Gotham and Agents of SHIELD next year.
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It's definitely looking that way, unfortunately. Gotham and Agents of SHIELD are still in CTV's system, but not listed in their current shows (while other off-season shows are). It's looking like a lot of the others were dropped and picked up by Space and Showcase, it's possible those two will as well, as CTV focuses on drama, comedy, and reality.
I think I found the real reason why all of this is happening with CTV right now:
https://www.bellmedia.ca/pr/press/b...tination-and-launches-new-ctv-movies-service/
Bell and CTV will be rebranding many of their tv channels soon; Space, Bravo, Comedy and Gusto will become CTV Sci-Fi, CTV Drama, CTV Comedy and CTV Life.
This is probably why Arrow and DC's Legends of Tomorrow moved from CTV to Space, the original CTV channel stopped airing sci-fi tv shows because there will be a CTV Sci-Fi channel really soon.
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It did? The characters were boring archetypes with way too many daddy issues.
It definitely did. And they're still compelling even in today's world. Your characterization of them is extremely unfair and, while not strictly untrue, ignores any of the positives, of which there are obviously many since the show was carried on their backs alone.
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Because I know y'all were waiting for this:
Snap Originals Unveils Slate Of Fall Shows
In totally unrelated news:
Snap Stock Hits New Low; Analyst Says It's "Quickly Running Out Of Money"
Snap Originals Unveils Slate Of Fall Shows
Not gonna lie, some of these shows sound neat, but I don't wanna watch them on Snapchat. (I'd kill for The Dead Girls Detective Agency on like the CW.) The show they launched two years ago I haven't ever seen, or seen anyone talk about anywhere, mobile first video platforms have not succeeded so far and I don't see Snap doing much better.
In totally unrelated news:
Snap Stock Hits New Low; Analyst Says It's "Quickly Running Out Of Money"
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Tuesday night's ratings. Looks like The CW won't be having any shows above a 1.0 this season:
Another reason TWD can stick around for awhile: the high cast turnover prevents ballooning cast salaries which becomes a big problem for long-running shows.
I say with the ratings they have at least 2 seasons, then they will make big changes behind and in front of the camera then a season after that.
Well, if The Outpost can be renewed at .1, then Black Lightning will be safe.
Although I wish it would be a bit higher, as well.
Not like it's down a lot from last year when it was the #2 rated show on the network.
As someone deftly pointed out here, that S2 finale would have made a pretty solid series finale, too. I like the show plenty - just not sure where they'll take it...
I mean, it's still the third highest rated show on tv. It's still got a ways to fall. It could totally be in the cancellation range in a couple seasons especially if the decline continues to accelerate, but I could also see a situation where it stabilizes at a lower demo and runs for another 7-8 years.
Not the same situation in any way. Outpost is licensed programming, (IIRC it was made for SYFY's international channels) while BL is a CW original. I'd guess BL costs at least 10 times as much as they pay for Outpost.
Keep in mind that ratings are not what determines a shows fate these days. If Warner Brothers, who own half of CW, is making money selling BL internationally and to streaming, then CW isn't going to cancel it.
The comment was made as more of a joke of The Outpost being renewed. My spoiler is more of what I am feeling.
Pedowitz though has been pretty open on keeping the DC shows going/showing his support and I have a feeling that won't change for awhile.
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WarnerMedia Launching Direct-To-Consumer Streaming Service In Fourth Quarter Of 2019
also, remember what I said about how no mobile first services have worked out yet? I'm just mentioning this for no reason.
Jeffrey Katzenberg And Meg Whitman Unveil Name Of NewTV: Quibi (Short For Quick Bites)
So in addition to HBO Now, DC Universe (heh), and Audience (which I know technically isn't an OTT). I mean sure, why not.
also, remember what I said about how no mobile first services have worked out yet? I'm just mentioning this for no reason.
Jeffrey Katzenberg And Meg Whitman Unveil Name Of NewTV: Quibi (Short For Quick Bites)
Why do people keep trying to make bespoke entertainment networks when you don't own a huge back catalogue you can leverage??
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