What else can they do really? Israel is going to kill people no matter what so It doesn't matter what they do. Israel gets it's way because the world let it do so.
There is no other way to protest.
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52 dead, 2238 wounded in Gaza today (worst day since 2014 Gaza war) [UPDATED]
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There is no other way to protest.
Yeah, the death cult moniker for Evangelicals is more true than not unfortunately. Nihilism is the defining trait of the movement.
There is zero chance the Obama administration would have tweeted out a victim blaming statement. At worst it would have been a neutral "we're monitoring the situation" or a more side ways condemnation like "we're deeply concerned with the loss of life" type of thing. Obama was the most anti-Israel president in terms of public reaction and policy, even if he sent them aid.
As much as I dislike the "both sides" rhetoric, when it comes to Israel/Palestine US relations, the Democratic party is no different from the Republicans.
Everything I've heard from my step brother who lived in Isreael for 15 years just proves exactly what the problem is here. Israeli people for the most part are taught to treat the Palestinians as sub human, below them. The media drills this into them every single day and the warmongering government use anti palestinian propaganda to hide what the IDF are doing and spinning it to make it look like their brave soldiers are standing up to fight against people who they say want to destroy Israel.
The Israeli's who vote people like Netenyahu in are the same people who sit ontop of towers watching bombs go off over the border and the same sort that shoot at innocent people. There are good Israeli's and especially a lot of younger Israeli children thanks to the internet are becoming more liberal, but the longer the west supports Israel the worse it is going to get.
The general population of Israel at this point are living in one big propaganda machine and I genuinely have no idea how on earth anyone can change anything. It's an awful, awful situation. RIP to all the innocent people who died.
The Israeli's who vote people like Netenyahu in are the same people who sit ontop of towers watching bombs go off over the border and the same sort that shoot at innocent people. There are good Israeli's and especially a lot of younger Israeli children thanks to the internet are becoming more liberal, but the longer the west supports Israel the worse it is going to get.
The general population of Israel at this point are living in one big propaganda machine and I genuinely have no idea how on earth anyone can change anything. It's an awful, awful situation. RIP to all the innocent people who died.
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/u-s-embassy-gaza-protests-and-nakba-day-live-updates-1.6078190
At least some governments are doing something:
I guess the South Africans recognize what's happening there, and they don't like it.
Unfortunately, the number of people killed has risen to 55 now, according to latest reports.
At least some governments are doing something:
I guess the South Africans recognize what's happening there, and they don't like it.
Unfortunately, the number of people killed has risen to 55 now, according to latest reports.
Obama literally used the exact same language in 2014 when Israel bombed Gaza media centers.
One government of war criminals taking the back of another government of war criminals.
Trump is winning at creating a new axis of evil with America as the leader. If the world won't follow Trump, he'll find those that will and fight the world.
Making him the senate leader of the party was such a gross move. His active work to try to kill the Iran deal that Obama was setting up should have been disqualifying.
The occupation of Gaza is clearly not working. The people there do not consider themselves Israeli. It would be the best thing to do to give it back to Egypt as Israel did with the Sinai peninsula.
The Egyptian population would likely support this. Gaza has been controlled by outside forces since Roman times.
this is good to see but unfortunately I think as long as the US backs Israel nothing will change for the better
They keep on digging...
This thread is making me get a headache. I need to take a break and try to forget.
Pathetic but expected. Palestians have nothing and Israel has pretty much everything it desires.
Israel has no reason to negotiate anything, there is nothing left that they need.
He was allowed to vote against the Iran deal, he would have never voted against it if Obama needed his vote
The next world war (should it happen) is going to have such weird divisions
So they've went with the strategy of telling people the reports they're seeing is fake news.
After Hamas fired missiles into israel. Israel's targets and intensity was wrong but they at least did have some reasonable claim to self defense.
This time the worst offense is throwing rocks with slingshots. I wonder if Obama really would let this one go like that.
"Palestine never existed, it was all a propoganda attempt by [insert boogeyman here]."
So basically what they say to themselves today to keep expanding their borders.
South Africans understand very well what apartheid is.
Good on them for this. Hopefully more governments will follow.
The White House's disdain for the Palestinians is there for everyone to see.
The peace process is utterly dead unless a Democratic administration comes into power led by a President who is ardently passionate about the Palestinian cause, in a way Bernie Sanders is.
The peace process is utterly dead unless a Democratic administration comes into power led by a President who is ardently passionate about the Palestinian cause, in a way Bernie Sanders is.
They've never quite had the level of Carte Blanche as they have right now with Trumps administration.
But the offense, according to Israel, is that they attempted to breach the border, not that they were throwing rocks. And if you really have to wonder, you haven't paid attention to sixty years of American policy on Israel. My point was never that Obama was as bad as Trump, it was that "Israel has the right to defend itself" as a response to outrageous overkill by the Israelis has been standard American policy for longer than I've been alive, and has been parroted by every President and most of the potential candidates. The issue goes considerably deeper than Trump or even the Republicans, and I don't think it's useful to pretend otherwise. Unless you're suggesting that the Gaza initiative in 2014 was a reasonable response to the missile attacks, then I think we probably fundamentally agree.
"Don't look at all those videos and pictures tho, that's all photoshop"
This UN Vote occurred under Obama.
US only country to oppose UN holding Israel accountable for war crimes, yet again
Egypt doesn't want Gaza, which they only had for a small period of time. You might as well offer Gaza to Britain or Turkey because it makes just as much sense. The Sinai and Gaza aren't comparable at all.
The White House's disdain for the Palestinians is there for everyone to see.
The peace process is utterly dead unless a Democratic administration comes into power led by a President who is ardently passionate about the Palestinian cause, in a way Bernie Sanders is.
I remember when Bernie dared to suggest that Israel's actions have been disproportionate in one of the primary debates and at first I thought he was speaking a different language. it was really strange to hear a US politician not spout off the same old talking points.
This UN Vote occurred under Obama.
US only country to oppose UN holding Israel accountable for war crimes, yet again
US Abstains from UN vote condemning Israel
This was a pretty defining moment in US-Israel relations, and especially Obama-Israel relations.
This is from 2015 but there's one from a month or so ago that is essentially the same result. Israel can only get away with this because they are reflexively shielded by that "bastion of human rights."This UN Vote occurred under Obama.
US only country to oppose UN holding Israel accountable for war crimes, yet again
This was the resolution where the Israelis reached out to the Trump campaign to try to create a go-around since Obama had abstained. Trump then had Kushner reach out to the Russian ambassador to try to get their vote since Obama told them to fuck off. Israeli collusion but no one is interested in that unless it involves Russia. Good on Obama to abstain.
And he got pretty good applause for it, to the shock of many pundits.
They'll get away with it because the world is at the mercy of the bullying tactics of the United States of America and too passive to levy any kind of meaningful resistance.
The Palestinian people are as good as dead. And their blood is on the hands of every other human being on the planet.
The real question that needs to be asked is... who will be next?
Shut like this is why the world is looking into dedollarization. US can bully and sanction because of the dollar's status as reserve currency.
And their hubris is getting too out of control.
There's limits and today israel crossed it.
Until today israel had formed a pseudo-apartheid that it was terrible for all the right reasons but today we are going to a different level.
As a human being i am feeling guilty, we must do something to change the situation asap.
Until today israel had formed a pseudo-apartheid that it was terrible for all the right reasons but today we are going to a different level.
As a human being i am feeling guilty, we must do something to change the situation asap.
This looks like something the Kremlin would have tweeted out.
I think he's still the only senator willing to condemn Israel for anything.
I guess Gillibrand and Booker have been less willing to vote for these pro-israel bills than usual too.
If you've been holding the White House to a higher standard than the Kremlin in terms of propaganda, hopefully this is a wake-up call for you.
The love
When the actions of Israel and the US make Erdoğan of all people look like a good guy taking the high road...
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That's may be the most disturbing part for me. Hitler and the nazis viewed Jewish people as little more than rats, and now they turn around and view other humans as little more than rats.
The whole thing has been stuck in my mind for hours, to them Palestinians are nothing more than sub human.
and of course the US government is gonna cover Israel's ass in any UN resolution and be their personal propaganda machine. Fuck these awful governments.
and of course the US government is gonna cover Israel's ass in any UN resolution and be their personal propaganda machine. Fuck these awful governments.