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A Bloodborne Frustration Thread
- Thread starter Pirate Bae
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Do you have the music box? You can try using that.
Otherwise, try partying his attacks. What weapon are you using?
Otherwise, try partying his attacks. What weapon are you using?
Grats on beating the boss, OP. Knew you could do it. You'll be a grizzled vet with fire in your eyes on NG+ in no time. Remember the lesson you learned today, and you will be fine for the next boss.
This reminds me of something I'd forgotten but I'd been mulling over for a while when I was playing Bloodborne last:
Blood Vials were a great idea and I see what they were going for, the purpose they served in contrast to an estus-esque system. However, the execution is lacking in the final stretch of its design. You should definitely feel the heat if you're low on vials from carelessness (because obviously they're encouraging you to play more aggressively and regain health in battle), but you should never hit a point where you're at 0 and have to grind grind grind just to get health drops. It's totally counter to the flow of the game and I can't imagine Miyazaki ever wants players to feel like they have to grind rather than git gud.
I'm not sure exactly how they could have solved it, but maybe playing aggressively and getting a lot of regain would drastically increase the vial drop rate while your vial total was under 20 (on hand and in box). Idk, maybe even the ability to exchange echoes for vials at a lantern rather than going back to the dream for it if they were more expensive there or something. Anyway, I don't trust myself to come up with better mechanics and systems than From Software, but it feels like the vial system needed a little more time in the oven.
I LOVE this. Hahahahaha
Pirate Bae You should probably update the OP to say you beat him so new people to the thread aren't behind.
You should edit the OP so you don't keep getting tips for Father G.
edit: beaten like Father G.
edit: beaten like Father G.
Yeah, for as much as I despise its implementation I, too, can see they had some kind of idea for it. When you're not running out, finding them as loot is a good reward loop.
I'd say they should've gone with something like the healing system in Dark Souls 2--Estus and vials, so you never run out. It was a good compromise, conceptually.
Easy solution. When you go through a nightmare fog, your vials get topped up for the duration of the boss fight. Say, you're going in with 2 vials, you get 3 "echo vials" so that you can fight a boss with 5 vials.
Alternatively the "top-off limit" starts at 10 and can be increased, like how you can increase the amount of vials and bullets you can carry at once.
edit: Perhaps the "top-off limit" could be raised with some stat, as well.
Hahahahaha, I love the funny character names people come up with. I never remember to do it myself when I'm playing.
Fantastic fight. So much to manage, when the fight is finally over it's just exhilarating.
No. The blood starved beast is. Fuck that bitch!
Trust me op. If I can beat this game anyone can. I'm not a souls guy but this game was just too beautiful to pass up. Took me two years. Dont give up. Parry that bastard! I liked luring him up the back staircase.
I BEAT BLOODBORNE.
just a tip usually you can unlock shortcuts to the boss area, so if you die you can just run to it faster
But I wants my easy difficulty so I can also enjoy the experience. /s
If it makes you feel better Father Gascoine is a pretty difficult boss for being so early in the game. However, it teaches you a few very important things. One is that most beastial enemies are very weak to parry as they have attacks with longer windows to parry as well as larger hitboxes. Another thing it teaches you is to use your environment to your advantage - in the first phase you can use the tombstones and trees to keep distance between yourself and the boss of you need to heal. The third thing it teaches you is the importance of cleanly beating the easier phase of a fight so you have more resources for the last phase. And of course it teaches you patience.
The good news is many of the bosses in the middle of the game are pretty forgiving in some way. Some, of you have high enough damage, can be surprisingly easy.
When you consider a new player on their first playthrough of the game, Father Gascoine is probably a top 5 difficult boss fight if you don't include the chalice dungeon bosses. So don't feel too bad!
The good news is many of the bosses in the middle of the game are pretty forgiving in some way. Some, of you have high enough damage, can be surprisingly easy.
When you consider a new player on their first playthrough of the game, Father Gascoine is probably a top 5 difficult boss fight if you don't include the chalice dungeon bosses. So don't feel too bad!
Totally summoned that Vileblood Hunter guy though, made it so much more manageable.
This is the farthest I've got in Bloodborne, the more I play the more I love it. I see why it's GotG material.
Yeah, good call. Vials are the healing item you can gain through fighting and exploration and they're so fast to use, but there's also a slow use healing item with only three uses (or something) that you can refill in the dream. Like you'd dip a flask in the messenger bird bath or something. That way you always have a way to extend a lantern-to-lantern journey even if you're out of vials, but you very likely couldn't use it mid-battle. They'd have to rebalance, of course.
OR!
What if you had a flask like that with just a few uses before a (free) refill, BUT instead of healing you, it just made it so every attack you do for a limited time generate blood to fill blood vials. So you're encouraged to play more aggressively during these periods even though you don't have vials at that moment to heal. You have to risk more intense enemies and situations when you're most vulnerable, but the reward gets you back to the normal gameplay loop faster than farming vials or grinding for souls to spend on vials in the dream, and it does so without encouraging running and seeking safety like an additional slow healing item would.
You would probably have to set a lower limit on total vials to balance this.
Man, I thought I was done with Souls and Souls-like games after Nioh. But now I find myself looking forward to Sekiro next month. I think it makes enough changes to the formula that it's definitely worth trying out.
This isn't a bad idea either (especially with a top-off limit), but I think it might encourage recklessness in the boss runs because you know that even if you have to use a bunch of vials on the way there, they would be filled up for the boss.
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Hahahahaha, now that you've found her, go do some other stuff first. You're in an area with a lot of branches and options.
One of my favorite gifs. Had you seen it before playing and didn't understand?
Because I imagine that would be such a funny way to be introduced to Amelia. Like, oh, it's that walking dog gif.
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Got to improve your exploring skills lol if you want to know
There's 1 area, Old Yharnam, before the gate you opened to enter the big plaza. And there's another following the path to the left to the door of the church Amelia is.
Boss runs aren't BB's strong point. Gameplay loop in Souls is like this: Enter area -> Find bonfire closest to boss -> Optimize a way to run through enemies to the bosses ASAP
Bloodborne loop: Enter area -> Few lanterns -> Find all shortcuts -> Take said shortcuts to boss.
There isn't as much emphasis on juggling boss runs.
Just caught up to the thread. Congrats OP! Check out the path on your left by Amelia's door. It leads to one of my favorite areas in the game!
Not to brag, but I beat the first 5 or so bosses in the game on my first attempt. I was pretty proud of that. I may have just been lucky. I did have a tougher time on NG+
Funny thing is, I usually lay down the law after my last few abysmal tries. Like I get way fucking worse only to rally (that's right) for a comeback.
All I can say is that if you ask 10 different BB players what the hardest boss is you'll likely get 10 different answers (if you're excluding DLC and Chalice Dungeons). Boss difficulty is dependent on your playstyle. For instance, I died to Rom at least 2x more than I died to any other boss on my first playthrough.
Oh, sorry, didn't catch that. Anyway I really hope that you continue to enjoy Bloodborne! And congratulations on beating Father G.
This is the only fact in regards to Souls bosses in general and it always baffles me that random posters will still go with stuff like "nah man, he's easy lol".
I've had an insanely hard time with bosses generally considered easier and crushed the harder ones...and vice versa. Everyone is totally different in their approach.
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Pirate Bae Congrats on the Father victory! I knew you could do it. Bloodborne is one of my favorite games of all times, and if you persevere, you will be rewarded with much satisfaction.
Question: are you willing to stream your game? I'd be down with watching you play.
Question: are you willing to stream your game? I'd be down with watching you play.
You don't have to go there yet. I'm pretty sure that area is completely optional actually.
Anytime I got to a new area I would just make small incursions at first then backtrack to an area I was comfortable with.
I think you're gonna have issues to continue the game if you're afraid already :p
Nope. Just collect the badge, and then you can buy it at the Messenger Bath in the Hunter's Dream, near where the Doll usually hangs out.
Yep, Old Yharnam and Hemwick. Hemwick being the easier of the two areas.
Woop woop! Absolutely love seeing this. Keep this thread updated with your victories!
I think either of those suggested areas would be good places to go next actually. You'll level up quite a bit, plus get some experience against some other bosses. I think both are completely optional if I remember right, but you're at the right spot to go and do them if you want.
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