There was an entire season of Homeland about Pakistan if I am not mistaken. There is even more out there, I am sure. But I never saw any outrage on the same level as this tiny plot reveal labeling the terrorist as Hindu.
ABC apologizes for hurting Indians feeling by having a Hindu national terror plot in ‘Quantico’
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There are electoral breakdowns for the 2014 election, the BJP/Modi gained in the South.
https://carnegieendowment.org/2015/06/23/understanding-indian-voter-pub-60416
But I do agree that the 2014 election was largely won on the economic message. Unlike the 'economic anxiety' meme/cover for racist and bigoted views from the US election, it was an actual factor in the Indian election.
India is a rising power on the world stage and the more nationalist/extremist elements want to present a country that's without fault. They'd rather people not talk about the rape epidemic that's plaguing the country or talk about the caste system or the fact that some people refuse to use toilets, even though they have access to them.
As a Sikh.
FUCK Hindu nationalists and FUCK their feelings.
India is a horrible nation and a light needs to be shone on many issues in the country.
FUCK Hindu nationalists and FUCK their feelings.
India is a horrible nation and a light needs to be shone on many issues in the country.
That's a first. I know there's issues surrounding proper sanitation systems much like in many developing nations but people refusing to use toilet facilities when they have access to them. Any link?
Also besides Hindu nationalism, I think this is a touchy issue because of India-Pakistan relations, where each country maintains that the other is undermining it through funding terrorist activities and India in particular strongly denies such allegations.
https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2014/10/08/why-many-indians-cant-stand-to-use-the-toilet/
They've since turned to publicly shaming people to get them to use toilets.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.da40e5f85ab3
There are electoral breakdowns for the 2014 election, the BJP/Modi gained in the South.
https://carnegieendowment.org/2015/06/23/understanding-indian-voter-pub-60416
But I do agree that the 2014 election was largely won on the economic message. Unlike the 'economic anxiety' meme/cover for racist and bigoted views from the US election, it was an actual factor in the Indian election.
If you look at that map, while Congress lost, the 'Others' took over those seats instead of BJP. That's why I stated that it would be the local parties that win there. The article you stated, says that BJP won a smattering of seats everywhere. This is true - in the southern Indian state of Kerala, BJP got one seat for the first time. One. The BJP cannot form a government in the southern states of Kerala, TN and Andhra Pradesh. And because Hindus in Kerala are rather liberal and eat beef, the BJP there had to promise them access to good beef to even stand a chance of winning. This is in stark contrast to the North - those grey areas in the 2014 map, where BJP governments have outlawed eating beef and people have been lynched on rumors of doing so.
The politics of the entire country vary from state to state. It depends on issues like religion, caste, economy, language, food, transportation, jobs etc.
Another reason for the BJP winning is that the Congress has no real leadership and is almost gone from the scene.
There's this notion that toilets and bathrooms are unsanitary and unhygienic and hence it's better and cleaner to do one's business out in the open among the fields and fresh air. That's why so many villagers are still resistant to have toilets. Governments also do not do a good job maintaining public toilets which are a horror in India. And as pointed out in the article posted above these are the same poor, high population states - UP, MP, Bihar etc. - that elect people based on caste, religion and backward thinking.
There's also lead in a ton of their paints still among other things.
Meeca Masjid bombing, megalaon blasts, ajmer bombing, etc. In all these cases, Muslims were initially rounded up, tortured and then released before it was revealed RSS was involved.
The funny thing is in Indian/Bollywood movies whenever there is a terrorist plot or even just an evil villian it's 99.9% of the time portrayed with people having Muslim names and even driving that fact home by inserting "Salaam" or "Khuda Hafiz".
So yeah, they can fuck off with this victim mentality. They don't deserve an apology for anything.
So yeah, they can fuck off with this victim mentality. They don't deserve an apology for anything.
Just remove 'hindu' and think of a generic term ______ nationalist. It should not conjure happy imagery because it is never a good thing. Extremist Hindu nationalism is a violent, exclusionary and regressive movement responsible for a lot of suffering.
If the terrorists were Muslim, no one would be blinking a fucking eye. Hindu nationalists can fuck right off with this victim mentality. ABC shouldn't apologize just because they happen to be poc
Oh my god. Have you heard nothing about the ethnic cleansing of Rohingya people in Burma/Myanmar? Violent Buddhist extremists in Sri Lanka?
Poor Priyanka having to deal with this BS. I'm sure there are more egregious plots in Indian films. Fucking hypocrites.
And this is why I look down on people who harp only on Islamic terrorism.
You said, that Hindu Nationalists 'framed Pakistan'. When did they do that in all these cases?
In the Mecca Masjid bombing, both RSS and Islamic terror outfits were investigated for the crime.
In the Ajmer blasts the hindu suspects were investigated and arrested.
In the Malegaon blasts, Police arrested members of SIMI for the crime and later arrested the true culprits. This is not the Hindu nationalists framing anyone. This is the police being biased and bad at investigation.
Where in all this did Hindu Nationalists frame Pakistan for these blasts? Are you saying that Indian muslims are Pakistanis?
By the way, in most of these blasts, the police go after outfits that have links to Lashkar-e-Taiba funded by the Pakistani government. And Lashkar is a terrorist outfit responsible for the 2008 mumbai attacks in which 164 people were killed and 300 injured. Even the US has a 10 million dollar bounty on Hafiz Saeed.
Maybe people can give actual examples and facts of what they are talking about instead of saying these things? What exactly are you talking about here? When did a muslim village get massacred in India recently?
But if we are talking about villagers being massacred, then there are reports from Myanmar about Hindus being massacred by the Rohingyas:
Rohingya Muslim militants in Myanmar killed dozens of Hindu civilians during attacks last August, according to an investigation by Amnesty International.
The group called Arsa killed up to 99 Hindu civilians in one, or possibly two massacres, said the rights group. Arsa had denied involvement.
The report details how Arsa members on 26 August attacked the Hindu village of Ah Nauk Kha Maung Seik.
"In this brutal and senseless act, members of Arsa captured scores of Hindu women, men and children and terrorised them before slaughtering them outside their own villages," the report said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44206372
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Right wing nationalists are always operating in bad faith, they're whjny little shits regardless of where they're from.
All the fear mongering about Hindus and Indians in this thread is rather eye opening. A lot of clear anti-Hindu/India hate parading as truth- Like did you hear that Muslim villages were massacred and survivors raped recently?! 100,000 women were raped, poor Pakistan was getting framed by evil Hindu nationalists, all the minorities are oppressed and scared for their lives, dirty Indians don't even use toilets etc. Is there anything left?
And all in a thread about some Hindus being pissed at an actress for her show's portrayal of Hindu terrorists. Damn.
For people who are truly curious about Indian muslims instead of all this fear mongering, here is Salman Rushdie's POV of India and muslims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF_Bxzzddnk
And all in a thread about some Hindus being pissed at an actress for her show's portrayal of Hindu terrorists. Damn.
For people who are truly curious about Indian muslims instead of all this fear mongering, here is Salman Rushdie's POV of India and muslims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF_Bxzzddnk
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Everyone is talking about Indian nationalists and Hindu extremists not non-nationalists and non-extremists. This is about the pro modi extreme nationalist crowd reacting to a piece of fiction about extremism which mind you has been kind of a plot of Bollywood movies too
It seems to be a common tactic of Hindu nationalists/extremists to reframe any criticism towards their extremism as hatred towards Indians or people of Hindu faith at large. There was a similar incident on Twitter not too long ago that I'm forgetting. It's kind of similar to how people portray criticism of the Israeli government as antisemitic.
EDIT: Here's the incident I was thinking of. Many of the tweets were mortifying.
Right-wing nationalists exist in every country. India having a population of one billion means more of those nationalists post. This is the result. Most of the posts are probably from the northern region of India which has the largest population but is also a stronghold of the BJP.
Then maybe we should talk about the pro-modi nationalist crowd reacting to this piece of fiction? And not make false statements about how these nationalists massacred a 'muslim village recently, kids included and raped the survivors'. If one makes such strong statements about the massacre of entire communities then back that up with evidence.
Otherwise this is just fear mongering and initiating hate against a community because everyone around here just seems to accept such statements as fact. I came into this thread after seeing a comment about 100,000 women being raped by a mob led by Modi and was baffled when no one confronted him about this blatant falsehood. Do people really think that minorities are massacred and raped on such large scales in India and that Indians are okay with this? All because some pro-Modi nutjobs on the internet are pissed off at Priyanka Chopra?
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Are you talking about that ONE post and reapplying to everyone who was critical of nationalists ? That user was banned .
This is such an insane overreaction it's not even funny.
Also if I were them I would be way more worried about the real problems in India that make the country look bad rather than a fictional story from network television.
Also if I were them I would be way more worried about the real problems in India that make the country look bad rather than a fictional story from network television.
I mean, even ignoring that the people offended seem to be scummy ultranationalists, I get it sucks when your side gets portrayed as the bad guys, but what country hasn't ever had to play the villain in one story or another? Even American media with all its over reliance on evil Arabs and evil Russians still finds plenty of room for plots about evil American governments. It's like you're protesting because a show didn't make the Muslims the bad guys for once.
As someone from India (albeit grown up in the UK), I have been to mumbai many times and seen what sort of crap Hindu nationalists get up to.
Nationalism there is a huge issue. Theatres and couples get hackled on valentines by hindu nationalists was one of the example I witnessed whilst visiting Mumbai (parents live there now so have spent lots of time there).
Nationalism there is a huge issue. Theatres and couples get hackled on valentines by hindu nationalists was one of the example I witnessed whilst visiting Mumbai (parents live there now so have spent lots of time there).
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Used to be in the 70s Bollywood movies . British and American goons but not major villains
Yeah, yet the constant showing of Muslims as the bad guys gets no apology right?
It's a work of fiction people!
It's a work of fiction people!
So, if nobody watched the show, why people in India got upset about it?
I love the RAAAWWWWRRR We are so fucking tolerant!!! How dare they????!!!!?
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Honestly this sounds no different than "economic anxiety" excuse.
The fact is nationalism and extremism has risen in his tenure to heights not seen since forever