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ABC Comedy: The Problem With The Left
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Perhaps the problem is that you seem to define "the left" as people who get upset at racist caricatures. I.E. how do you know "the left" went nuts? You don't think perhaps someone conservative leaning couldn't be offended by that?
The left is perpetually upset, because anybody who is upset is "the left."
Somehow, however, this never seems to apply to people getting upset over a black man kneeling over police shootings.
You're kidding right?
Don't let kids put on blackface. Explain why if you have to but it shouldn't be a hard thing to decide.
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I would like to combine that Zero Books video with this one from Mark Blyth.
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I'd tell the white kids parents, who assuredly saw their child going out in blackface, that they are morons for letting that shit stand. I don't expect the kid to understand the cultural significance of doing so, I'd expect adults to, however. And I'd expect adults to teach their children not to do that, just as they'd teach a child not to touch a hot stove.
And in case you're one of those "I let my children touch hot stoves to learn a lesson" type folks, be aware that the lesson that should be learned is that the white kid should get his ass kicked by society for that.
Maybe that's because your European country has next to no Native Americans.
Interesting that you didn't answer "no" the first time around.
This is a pants-on-head stupid hypothetical.
Instead of fantasy hypotheticals, how about using real world events?
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Thx for the perspective. The reason Im asking is that we never have any blackface situations here in my country so it's something that's never talked about. I think there was a theater thing a few years ago where a bunch of white people had blackface, but nobody cared about that.
They probably shouldn't honestly. Cowboys and Indians rarely fought anyway I think we can just do away with that kids playtime thing. Stick with cops and robbers.
As a parent in this situation, you would explain to your child it's not a great idea and you'd offer up a better idea instead. Not that hard. You are literally creating an inane problem that would never conceivably exist in order to concern troll, and about what? Potential issues that might arise from not letting children wear fucking blackface? Think this through for one second.
This is important. When you're against a faceless blob that doesn't believe in anything - then by virtue of having anything worth defending - you have already lost if you think you can win "on their terms".
Have the black kid's parents explain to them why it's not cool if you,re confused by such a ridiculous situation.
Nope, you're on point my man.
These last two I feel is more anchored towards how we convey conversation online more than anything, leftist or not. Often I find those whom entrench themselves with that kind of discourse aren't so much as looking to change hearts and minds, but more of a way to externalize their frustrations and fish out for some meaty conflict.
Seen this video. I think by its own nature, political correctness causes a rise in people believing "i am being attacked" that can lead to alt right sensibilities.
It has also lead the public to instinctively avoid discussions of unjustified hierarchies especially capitalism and colonialism, the root of other injustices in social hierarchies
It has also lead the public to instinctively avoid discussions of unjustified hierarchies especially capitalism and colonialism, the root of other injustices in social hierarchies
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No one cared or no one listened. Because there been people talking about Zwarte Piet for years and they get ignored
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That's a great idea honestly.
Yeah, it's called "Svarte Per" directly translated to "Black Per" here and it's very popular.
Before Trump we had a black centrist president who rarely talked about race or identity, who bought into the exaggerated safe spaces on college campuses crisis and political correctness. He'd probably share more views in common with Sam Harris type than people on this form. The idea that the democratics or left wing politicians are too PC is utter nonsense and is usually just means that person wants to be able to say racist things with no consequences
Old straight white man says left is getting too sensitive and PC for him news at 11. There's probably 15 videos of these a day
Decades of vilifying and straight up elimination of social safety nets, relaxing anti-trust law leading to massive corporate consolidation which in turn led to campaign finance reform and now we're at the point where corporations are straight up writing the laws for themselves.
1: I don't remember "the left" freaking out about Hemsworth, other than pointing out at the time it was a dumb costume and then being happy/satisfied with a response. Unless this is a "left freaks out" thing that Reddit likes to push on some of their quasi-hate subs.
2: Ignorance is ignorance, and when it was pointed out to him, he admitted his ignorance on it and didn't deflect or try to absolve himself of it, unlike "what about kids playing cowboys and Indians" whataboutism.
3: People really want to absolve voters in 2016 by blaming it other than racism or tolerance of racism for "whatever" reasons, and it's becomes more pathetic day by day.
2: Ignorance is ignorance, and when it was pointed out to him, he admitted his ignorance on it and didn't deflect or try to absolve himself of it, unlike "what about kids playing cowboys and Indians" whataboutism.
3: People really want to absolve voters in 2016 by blaming it other than racism or tolerance of racism for "whatever" reasons, and it's becomes more pathetic day by day.
I don't buy this at all, not for a second. This idea that, in today's global society, people can be literally unaware of racial stereotyping. What country are you from, again?
But being less aggressive also plays into stereotypes that benefit conservatives. If we focus on respect too much, conservatives will say "You guys are supposed to be the party of tolerance, so tolerate my opinion!" no matter how backwards, bigoted, or unscientific. If we try to be outright nice to everyone, we play into that reputation for spinelessness.
Kids don't play cowboys and indians anymore because it was outdated even when I was a kid in the nineties, and any kid with common sense knew that was the shit their parents or grandparents liked (and therefore boring). It was all about Star Wars and Pokemon back then, and now with tablets and smartphones, most kids aren't going to be interested.
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To add to this, I remember playing pretend as a kid in the early 90's, and it was all Mortal Kombat and Sonic the Hedgehog and Super Mario and Power Rangers.
I don't remember ever, ever playing Cowboys or Indians. Or telling my white friends to paint their faces to look like me.
Hey, when I was a young white kid in like 1st grade I wanted to be Bill Cosby for Halloween and wanted to paint my face black with a marker. My mom told me I couldn't do it because it was racist. I didn't do it.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
I mean framing this as "allowed" is kinda weird but it's pretty straightforwardly true that "cowboys and indians" is roleplay that endorses and valorizes white supremacy and defending it under cloak of youthful innocence is a racist thing to do.
Did you watch the video? The dude looks to be in his 20s or 30s.
Yea, millions of people in 2016 said, fuck, there no one left of Clinton, might as well vote for hard right racist, misogynistic piece of shit. Maybe if he goes hard enough right we'll end up somewhere left.
Let's not forget that they aren't just arguing with the right. They're arguing with shitty moderates who find superiority complexes in their lazy inaction.
Guys, guys, let's imagine this hypothetical scenario.
What if Jesus came back and he told right-wingers they should round up black people and Muslims and shoot them up?
What if Jesus came back and he told right-wingers they should round up black people and Muslims and shoot them up?
Kids emulate what they see. If you're not showing them dehumanizing shit that glorifies fights between cowboys and indians they won't want to play cowboys and indians. I played it as a kid but that's because my dad watched pretty problematic westerns and didn't give a shit about teaching me not to do that.
We're gonna get a "racism is really just an American thing, not like in Europe" post eventually from someone.
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