Don't really see the problem with this as well, but I'm not from the region. No civilian casualties, militias were a bunch of psychopaths. Good riddance.
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Airstrikes in Syria kill 22 in Joe Biden's first military act as president
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Oh look, the US hypocritical pro military liberal left who had no problems supporting the war on Iraq finally came out of the woodwork.
In America, if you're a person of colour (which you are), I'm pretty sure you're pretty close to that math.
Fuck this country and everything it stands for. Homeless dying in the streets, more people losing their jobs and ability to provide for themselves and dems couldn't give a fuck.
So exactly what do you know about these militias to get to that conclusion? Or is it that any brown person who fights US occupation = psychopath terrorist?
Yeah, I happen to be a progressive voter as well. The DNC needs to learn to stop forcing center-right or neoliberal politicians on us.
I mean this is really the Chef's Kiss on all the posts attacking people for supporting Assad and not caring about human rights.
One dictator kills an American resident journalist? Shrug.
Someone kills an American contractor? Dozens of people gotta turn into glass
This seems to be where that "Biden is still going to be pretty grotesque, but not Trump-levels of grotesque" thing comes in, but that shit is not an excuse.
This shit is, and always will be, fucking vile. Biden being the "preferred option" doesn't make this any less disgusting and inhumane.
This shit is, and always will be, fucking vile. Biden being the "preferred option" doesn't make this any less disgusting and inhumane.
It didn't happen during a pandemic and collapsed economy against a fascist hate machine. I don't see it happening any time soon. I've seen the story too many times. But I am an admitted defeatist who has given up on the state of things.
Including my family in Basra? damn.
I'd put more value in a single life of one these Iraqis killed today than a hundred American soldier.
These two women whose tweets were quoted*** there fixed that for you.
Well that sure was choice of word after what he ordered done and let Saudi's off the hook for murder.
Nah, the empire isn't going to simply give up its conquered territory. Even the wise philosopher emperor Marcus Aurelius waged imperial war to subjugate tribes and expand his empire, so anyone who was expecting Biden to do anything different that might weaken US hegemony was deluded.
Pot calling kettle. The USA can violate sovereignty, invade and occupy without even a mandate from its own congress let alone a UN mandate, essentially acting with impunity.
I know this has been quoted over and over but those tweets really make your skin crawl, its like reading right wing propaganda.
I'm curious about what authorities were used here. If they're tying this back to the still-extant and twisted beyond belief AUMF, that needed to be repealed years ago.
Absent well-understood exigent circumstances, there should be no offensive military action taken without Congressional approval -- full stop.
That said, I'm not going to shed tears for Iranian-backed militia members. But please, get out of Syria like we're supposedly getting out of Yemen. A state should not use force unless it's part of a broader plan, such as getting Iran to the negotiating table for peace accords. The question is, "what's next?"
Absent well-understood exigent circumstances, there should be no offensive military action taken without Congressional approval -- full stop.
That said, I'm not going to shed tears for Iranian-backed militia members. But please, get out of Syria like we're supposedly getting out of Yemen. A state should not use force unless it's part of a broader plan, such as getting Iran to the negotiating table for peace accords. The question is, "what's next?"
Yuuupp. I think we allow generalization of certain groups to happen because their involvement in an organization insinuates culpability in their actions. - cops, Rs, etc. Me sleeping in my apartment in LA does not make me a bloodthirsty savage because my leaders are warmongers.
You can generalize Americans if you want. I'm just saying you're very wrong.
I have posted Biden's notorious "Nothing will fundamentally change" line many times but people just can't accept that perfectly encapsulated who he is.
And forget all the bombings he was part of with the Obama admin as well, and his support for wars in the past. Folks had this crazy liberal dream about Biden
That's just from one region.
Democrats should just officially make their slogan, "Maybe next time 🤷♂️"
These strikes took place in Syria btw.
While Obama has got you there, Bernie Sanders might have gotten you there as well after Assad's repeated use of chemical weapons and in face of ISIS festering there.
While Obama has got you there, Bernie Sanders might have gotten you there as well after Assad's repeated use of chemical weapons and in face of ISIS festering there.
These strikes took place in Syria btw.
While Obama has got you there, Bernie Sanders might have gotten you there as well after Assad's repeated use of chemical weapons.
Did this action satisfy any of Sanders questions though?
I've no doubt Sanders would have committed war crimes as President but that quote you've clipped suggests he wouldn't have done this strike.
Seems to be only the Iranian backed Shia militias in this case. How do you feel about the Kurds or the sunnis?
Yeah, it's actually kind of adorable that people seemed to think that laughing a joke candidate off to the point that he got to run the country for four years wouldn't somehow erode any semblance of quality from the major players in the next race. Oh, did I say 'adorable'? I actually meant 'disturbing'. I mean, yeah, Trump was terrible, but the excitement surrounding Biden's victory more or less confirmed my fears that people wouldn't learn the right lessons from Trump being in office. People are once again complacent, and mediocrity and even the occasional horrible act are applauded because they weren't done by "that guy" or whatever.
I don't argue that he would have called this particular strike. I'm just saying that he's not categorically against military interventions. So had he been in office instead of Obama, America may still have ended up in Syria. Assad's repeated use of chemical weapons meets Sanders' criteria for a military intervention, doesn't it?
I don't get this game though. If Sanders was in office instead of Bush, America would not have ended up in Iraq and the Syrian civil war likely would never have happened as we know it.
The point is to judge America's actions at present, and at present America seems to have leapt back into senseless revenge killings with no clear strategic aim under Biden.
If Bernie would have done what Biden did here, there would be no shortage of people saying fuck Bernie Sanders. I'm not sure what the point is here.These strikes took place in Syria btw.
While Obama has got you there, Bernie Sanders might have gotten you there as well after Assad's repeated use of chemical weapons and in face of ISIS festering there.
Yeah Bernie doesn't have a perfect record on foreign policy either he opposed the Iraq War but he voted for the AUMF, I don't think many people have any illusions he'd be beyond reproach.
Color me surprised!
So he's putting kids in cages, deporting thousands of people and bombing Siria, but at least he's competent.
I hope the US gets a true progressive president one day.
So he's putting kids in cages, deporting thousands of people and bombing Siria, but at least he's competent.
I hope the US gets a true progressive president one day.