Are there seriously still people who doubt MJF's in-ring abilities? Because they should be ignored at this point. I don't think we have anyone in this community like that, or we definitely shouldn't after last night.
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My favorite part of this story is that you live in a neighborhood of AEW fans.
Good points!
I know a lot of people assume MJF gets the run next but I disagree. He's got plenty of time and he hasn't been TNT champ yet. Also Danielson and maybe Punk definitely need a run before they retire. (Danielson has confirmed this is the last wrestling contract he will sign.)
But hey, who knows. Anything can happen.
I've been an advocate of his in-ring since that incredible Jungle Boy match.
People must have short memories to have forgotten that 4.5 star doozy.
Part of the issue with MJF is that they're saving his biggest matches. His best matches have been with Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, and now Darby. All of which were great. But they weren't main events against Kenny Omega, Pac, Fenix. He hasn't had the TNT belt, which would have given him the chance to flex against a bunch of singles opponents. I think we all know MJF is really good, particularly against great opponents. Can he do a PPV main event and deliver a five-star match without involving a screwy finish? That's a question that still has to be answered. But this Darby match was definitely a step in the right direction.
Also, I'll add, it's particularly unfortunate that MJF's best matches have stemmed from his shortest stories. Almsot all of his longterm storytelling stuff has resulted in disappointing matches -- Cody and Jericho, in particular.
Also, I'll add, it's particularly unfortunate that MJF's best matches have stemmed from his shortest stories. Almsot all of his longterm storytelling stuff has resulted in disappointing matches -- Cody and Jericho, in particular.
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Pretty sure it's the living the gimmick stuff kills him for a lot of people these days.
After some more thinking I think if it wasn't for the emotional investment in the title match, the MJF/Darby match would have been my favourite of the night.
Was watching fitefull and someone made a great point in that it's good that mjf doesn't have lots of matches not only because it helps slow his approach to the title but also because there is a good chance he would win the fans over in his matches themselves.
Was watching fitefull and someone made a great point in that it's good that mjf doesn't have lots of matches not only because it helps slow his approach to the title but also because there is a good chance he would win the fans over in his matches themselves.
Love MJF, he's my favorite AEW guy atm. I love heels, he can promo, he can wrestle. Checks all my boxes. Andrade and Black are tied at 2.
Was the crowd chanting for him last night? Always hard for me figure out what the crowds are saying. I know they were saying "Let's go Darby", were they saying "let's go MJF" after that or something to boo MJF? Seemed like they were split on the match.
It's also possible my memory sucks or my eyes glaze over those posts due to their objective wrongness.
"Let's go Darby" "M. J. F." Pretty split, yeah.
We had a convo while you were late reacting to Rampage just the other day about MJF's in character follies and that leading to a poster just out right hating him not even giving a second thought to his in ring ability. A little surprised you didn't see this?
I'm not sure if they did in that match, I think they were solidly behind Darby but I maybe wrong on that. Of course there were multiple examples on the ppv of fans cheering both people regardless of heel/face status.
It's possible. I've seen the character argument multiple times on here, and I get people not liking him because of it. He does go for super cheap and tasteless stuff a bit too often when he clearly doesn't have to.
Wish he'd stick to the good stuff he does have in his chamber like comparing himself and Darby to Jordan and Pippen, "It's okay to be #2" condescending heel stuff.
Was it me? Lol.
I still hate MJF but I'm not too proud to admit his match was MOTN.
So how many Eddie Guerrero tributes were there last night? That man left a mark on so many people.
Just don't put the word "shit" in it so I can look at the thread at work. :(
Dave has every match but one rated north of 4 stars.
I assume it's the ATT match he has rated lower.
I only disagree in that the Cody/andrade/pac/black match while technically amazing told no story at all.
Also seems that Dax is injured and we were supposed to get a dusty finish that didn't happen.
I assume it's the ATT match he has rated lower.
I only disagree in that the Cody/andrade/pac/black match while technically amazing told no story at all.
Also seems that Dax is injured and we were supposed to get a dusty finish that didn't happen.
This makes sense, that ending felt both rushed and completely improvised - I wonder what they were actually meant to do with the masks.
ahh thought so
unless your name is Cody lol
I think Anxious Millennial Champion is maybe better? more concise for sure.
I assume a heel spot where they pin the wrong guy setting Dax up for a roll up near fall or something.
Oh haha! I borrowed your idea, that was just the easiest way to host the image real quick.
Title matches are 60 minute time limits so I don't know about that.
I think Meltzer said the idea for the first Battle of the Belts is going to be similar to the first Clash of the Champions. Probably with Danielson being Flair and Hangman being Sting. Which is weird because Hangman is already the champion.
Personal match ratings
Darby vs. MJF: 4.5/5
Lucha Bros vs. FTR: 4.25/5
Bryan vs. Miro: 4.25/5
JE/Cage vs. Superkliq: 4/5
Cody/PAC vs. Andrade/Black: 3/5
Britt vs. Tay: 2.5/5
Punk vs. Eddie: 4.25/5
ATT vs. IC: 2.75/5
Hangman vs. Kenny: 4.75/5
An incredible batting average for this show. As someone who used to collect ROH DVDs after reading show reviews and match ratings, you just don't get this level of show on a regular basis.
Darby vs. MJF: 4.5/5
Lucha Bros vs. FTR: 4.25/5
Bryan vs. Miro: 4.25/5
JE/Cage vs. Superkliq: 4/5
Cody/PAC vs. Andrade/Black: 3/5
Britt vs. Tay: 2.5/5
Punk vs. Eddie: 4.25/5
ATT vs. IC: 2.75/5
Hangman vs. Kenny: 4.75/5
An incredible batting average for this show. As someone who used to collect ROH DVDs after reading show reviews and match ratings, you just don't get this level of show on a regular basis.
Just had a thought regarding the #pick'em
wouldn't the Bucks count as a face turn with Page, even if it turns out to be for just a moment?
wouldn't the Bucks count as a face turn with Page, even if it turns out to be for just a moment?
After a good night's sleep, I've odd thoughts about this PPV in the end. Dividing them up:
Darby v MJF- 5
JE v SK- 5
Hangman v Kenny- 5
Punk v Eddie- 5
Bryan v Miro- 4
LB v FTR- 3.5
Britt v Tay- 3
Cody/PAC v Andrade/Black - no stars lol, and I was very hyped for this one. It was just a weirdddddd match all around, even if the end result was still pretty watchable.
ATT v IC- DQd bc I recognize it as fun, but it did nothing for me story-wise. I'm burnt out on where IC is, as well as this feud. Junior having Bad Bunny levels of fun though, nice to see
I work on a pretty binary scale, I guess. big highs, really funky lows.
Kenny needs to goddamn rest, man. Wrestlin' w/ vertigo? christ.
Darby v MJF- 5
JE v SK- 5
Hangman v Kenny- 5
Punk v Eddie- 5
Bryan v Miro- 4
LB v FTR- 3.5
Britt v Tay- 3
Cody/PAC v Andrade/Black - no stars lol, and I was very hyped for this one. It was just a weirdddddd match all around, even if the end result was still pretty watchable.
ATT v IC- DQd bc I recognize it as fun, but it did nothing for me story-wise. I'm burnt out on where IC is, as well as this feud. Junior having Bad Bunny levels of fun though, nice to see
I work on a pretty binary scale, I guess. big highs, really funky lows.
Kenny needs to goddamn rest, man. Wrestlin' w/ vertigo? christ.
Did anyone have audio issues with the media scrum? I had to turn up my volume to hear what everyone was saying.
And then I forgot to lower my volume for the next video...
And then I forgot to lower my volume for the next video...
Think about where both Hangman and Dark Order were at the start of AEW. Hangman was the BC goon, and Dark Order was a dumb joke everyone hated immediately. Now look at how Full Gear ended. I have no faith in any company other than AEW to be able to pull that off.
I think Andrade is the only dude that carries about crowd safety.
"MOVE! MOVE!"
Damn, really? That sucks but it also explains a lot. Can't really complain if they needed to get Dax out of there.
…but I can complain about other stuff!
-These PPVs are too damn long. Cut it to 3 hours. I enjoyed everything on the card, but they could've easily moved stuff like IC vs ATT to 🧨.
-Speaking of IC vs ATT, it was too similar to JE vs SK and not nearly as good. And what was that booking at the start? Why were they observing tag rules just to let it all go out the window at one point? There was fun to be had but it was a mess. And kudos to JDS for trying and having some fun.
-All of Tay's offense got buried and I hate it. Whole match missed the mark pretty badly and it feels like a missed opportunity to do something really cool. Have Britt kick out of the DD-Tay and the Tay-KO. Then have Tay hit the cradle piledriver and win. Yes it's a bit of hot shot booking as the match got next to no build, but the crowd was dead because nobody expected Tay to win. You gotta have some legit surprises sometimes and that would've been a shocker — in a good way. Instant intrigue in the women's division. Tay's batting average is better than Britt's at this point so why not? (and I state that as someone who likes Britt) This also frees Britt up to make her presence felt around the TBS title. Instantly gives it credibility as something more than a secondary title.
-I loved the Eddie and Punk match. Buuuuuuut if I could change one thing about it it's the finish. And no, I wouldn't have Eddie win even though I obviously wanted that. Instead, don't have Punk end it with the GTS. Have him end it crushing Eddie's skull with those knees from the Muay Thai clinch over and over until Eddie collapses. It adds an awesome edge to Punk, adds to that heelish intrigue we've been seeing lately, and ties in his legit MMA credentials perfectly while erasing the fact that his time in the sport was… pretty embarrassing. You just don't see brutality like that in wrassling and the match deserved a finish like that. And it would add to Eddie's "Foley aura."
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