Andy Signore (Ex-ScreenJunkies) Defends Himself Against Sexual Assault Accusations
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From what I get, she lied to protect others: she felt an urgency to stop his harassment of fans and coworkers, and thought he would not be stopped otherwise.
It is an interesting case. Apparently, she feels as if she did the right thing. It is not the right way to proceed, but maybe it was the most effective way.
No, because his actual sexual harassment is public now and he didn't deny it.
This is quite the spin. Come on now, she could have just exposed him for his interactions with women, not lied about being assaulted
I have no issue with him defending himself, though even putting aside allegations of sexual assault, his behaviour has been clearly abhorrent.
My point is that calling it 'An honest Defense of X, Y, Z' and it's by the accused, where they refer to themselves in the 3rd person and the 'honest' section is the accused's own words is somewhat disingenuous.
That's a complicated set of facts.
On the one hand I see some evidence of consensual infidelity with one accuser.
On the other hand I see a long period of what looks like grooming with a hefty dose of celebrity and professional carrot dangling.
And the video is extremely heavy on April and light on the many alleged others. *NB : I mean others accusing him of harassment or creepiness not assault - I misrepresented my point and I'm leaving receipts of my own clumsy mistake.
On the one hand I see some evidence of consensual infidelity with one accuser.
On the other hand I see a long period of what looks like grooming with a hefty dose of celebrity and professional carrot dangling.
And the video is extremely heavy on April and light on the many alleged others. *NB : I mean others accusing him of harassment or creepiness not assault - I misrepresented my point and I'm leaving receipts of my own clumsy mistake.
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Doesn't he say that April's the only one who accused him of actual sexual assault?
My bad wording. The many others are accusing him of harassment which is not the same and I in no way intended to suggest that. I'll Caveat my original post because it's not a trivial error.
Yup my observation is only that it's hard to tell how mild or bad those were because he's not documenting them.
May I ask why? Was there reason to believe April was a fraud at the time?
Banned for calling out the admin I think. Then once the snowball started rolling, people were just posting porn and other shit as a means to suicide their accounts. I know talking about GAF is really frowned upon on ERA so I won't dive more deeply into it. But the summer of 2017 was a huuuuuge clusterfuck.
As I'm sure you are, as well, I'm skeptical that falsifying charges of sexual assault can help victims of abuse. Conventional wisdom would be that it makes it harder for women to be believed, to some degree. However, I can't support or deny the veracity of her claims based on what I know so far, only that I believe there is reasonable doubt based on the evidence provided in the OP video.
So she lied? That's a fucked up thing to do if it's true.
And I'm not defending Andy, he's a peace of shit even if she lied. But lying about being raped?
And I'm not defending Andy, he's a peace of shit even if she lied. But lying about being raped?
I think so and asking the mods why people were getting banned for simple things. It got out of control
I don't think she is outright admitting to having lied.
She had an incredibly specific and graphic set of accusations though. To abruptly switch to the much more vague and subjective "I told my truth" hurts the credibility of her story.
From a fan/cosplayer
Some messages may be out of order, and some of stacey's replies are not included
gopher broke = andy
From another fan, who he allegedly invited to the show and, based on these messages, wanted to hook her up with one of his employees
More fan interactions
And more
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Vaguely remember this. I thought dude got fired because he was a creep and the company didn't want to be associated with him. I didn't realize he was also accused of sexual assault on top of all that. Pretty messed up if the accuser lies. There seemed like there was enough evidence on the guy without needing to make up stuff.
Messages above make it pretty clear guy was (is?) a creep, and deserves to have that come back on him. But I can see wanting to clear up any allegations of sexual assault or rape.
Sure, but "#metoo misfire" and "an honest defense" are not phrases that should be associated with clearing up that you're just a serial harasser/abuser but not a rapist.
Is there anything with underage women or coworkers?
Also if you read more of his messages he's not actually as shy and weird as he's pretending to be. Uses the nerd angle in identical ways to flirt. Lol, he's a fraud. Why can't people just stay single if they want to have sex so often
Not making excuses for April though. She's malicious.
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So correct me if I'm wrong on my summary:
Dude is a proven creep
This specific allegation against him may have been false.
The reason for the allegation was someone wanting to stop him from further creepiness, so they lied to escalate the whole matter.
At the end of the day, the dude is still human trash for 99 other reasons, just not specifically this one.
Dude is a proven creep
This specific allegation against him may have been false.
The reason for the allegation was someone wanting to stop him from further creepiness, so they lied to escalate the whole matter.
At the end of the day, the dude is still human trash for 99 other reasons, just not specifically this one.
This idea that she lied about him raping her to save other women is ridiculous. Why would you put that in your summary? What even supports that?
And so far most (all?) of the allegations have been him doing a terrible job of flirting while married. Yeah, he's a creep but the jump in accusations here is huge. You can't just brush this off
For what, gross douchebaggery? I think libel is a civil matter.
After watching that video it looks like he's still a massive slime ball and douche but at least he's not a criminal so I guess he has that going for him.
Weird for April to move forward knowing that he had literal text evidence saying all they did was play a card game and watch a movie. I even paused it to read to see if there was anything he was misrepresenting and nope, not that I could tell.
God the way he presents his evidence annoys me so much, he's so self congratulatory. It comes off as "not only am I right but check out how bad she wanted me!" I hate it. I hate him but evidence is evidence.
Weird for April to move forward knowing that he had literal text evidence saying all they did was play a card game and watch a movie. I even paused it to read to see if there was anything he was misrepresenting and nope, not that I could tell.
God the way he presents his evidence annoys me so much, he's so self congratulatory. It comes off as "not only am I right but check out how bad she wanted me!" I hate it. I hate him but evidence is evidence.
Not making any judgement on the rest of the thread as I have no clue who this guy is the history/ or his response etc. But on the topic of infidelity I assume many on this forum dont have a code as strict as yours. Of course you are allowed your opinions views etc.
Most calls for boycotts etc are on the basis of other allegations/incidents rather than infidelity. Off the top of my head I cant remember any thread where boycott was called for over infidelity.
Lying about getting raped is sickening and damaging for the actual victims of rape.
Andy is a douche, yes, but she's the bigger one in this case, I'm afraid.
Andy is a douche, yes, but she's the bigger one in this case, I'm afraid.
Ugh, I kind of want to watch the video just to get a read on all of this but I'd rather not risk a stroke if that's what's going on in it. It's very clear dude is a slimeball/sex pest even if he is not among the absolute worst of the worst
Either one person is trash or two people are trash and one of them was specifically trash towards trash.
Either way Signore is garbage and whether or not this particular allegation is factual does not change that. In a court of law it would be relevant. In the context of every day life? He can fuck off.
So he's not an assaulter/rapist, but he is still a serial sexual harasser and scumbag? I get why he wanted to make that distinction clear, but it's still not really a ringing endorsement of his personal character.
That said, he'd probably win if he sued her for defamation, so he has that going for him I suppose. He still deserved to be fired for his conduct.
That said, he'd probably win if he sued her for defamation, so he has that going for him I suppose. He still deserved to be fired for his conduct.
Yep, you should be able to defend yourself and at least get some consideration. He honestly should sue her for defamation.
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Odd that she never seemed to consider Andy's wife and the harm that came to her at the outset.
I think Andy was fired rightfully because how he interacted with fans.
But if JTE (April's boyfriend who works at screen junkies) knew about the text messages he should definitely be fired as well. The children of Andy will forever be labeled as the childs of a molester. And that is so wrong.
April really hurt Andy's children with her lie
But if JTE (April's boyfriend who works at screen junkies) knew about the text messages he should definitely be fired as well. The children of Andy will forever be labeled as the childs of a molester. And that is so wrong.
April really hurt Andy's children with her lie
Damn, you can straight up lie about someone sexually assaulting you and then just be, like, "meh, that's some old shit. bye."?
Jesus there are people that are smoothing over the fact that she fucking lied about getting raped. There is no defense for that. There are no "right reasons" for doing that. Take a fucking look at yourselves
I think the point he made on the fact that some of the women he mentioned thought his messaging was harmless and that message was only seen as bad after the allegations is an interesting one.
A lot of those messages above just look like someone who has zero game and can't flirt at all but if you say that the person sending those messages was a rapist, you think quite differently. Dude is an ass for cheating on his family no doubt, but is he an asshole and deserves to not work again based on those messages that were posted above? I don't think so.
A lot of those messages above just look like someone who has zero game and can't flirt at all but if you say that the person sending those messages was a rapist, you think quite differently. Dude is an ass for cheating on his family no doubt, but is he an asshole and deserves to not work again based on those messages that were posted above? I don't think so.
Hes gross and inappropriate but far from being garbage, this woman should go to jail for saying he straight up saying he raped her multiple times when it's completely false.
Had totally forgotten this had happened.
Those chat messages are incredibly damning, and apparently April Dawn basically confirmed their veracity on twitter? This dude's entire life was totally destroyed by these accusations. One thing's to be a slimeball, another a rapist.
Those chat messages are incredibly damning, and apparently April Dawn basically confirmed their veracity on twitter? This dude's entire life was totally destroyed by these accusations. One thing's to be a slimeball, another a rapist.
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I agree with you. His pattern of behavior (including lying) and grooming was really obvious, even in his own video seeing his reuse of lines on other women "wow I can't believe I'm meeting a cute nerdy girl like you... for the first time!" He was clearly fishing for inappopriate interactions including nudes. Was he a rapist? I don't know but I think he was taking or attempting to take advantage of a lot of young women all while being married and his cancellation was/is justified.
Regardless of her lying, how in the fuck someone who spend years sexually harassing fans and coworkers not garbage?
The fact that you tolerate his disgusting behavior is garbage.
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