Razmos

Unshakeable One Winged Slayer
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Oct 28, 2017
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Now watch her get cancelled by the same people who decry "cancel culture"
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
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Oct 25, 2017
125,400
Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
 

Jmdajr

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Oct 25, 2017
14,728
Wonder if the big corporations gave them a call.

"Stop tanking our vaccine profits."
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
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Oct 26, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
Their states are getting hammered by Delta. The divide is basically Trump country versus the rest.
 

anexanhume

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Oct 25, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
It's killing their voters.
 

SolidSnakex

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Oct 25, 2017
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You certianly should put blame on them, but also put blame on your party and all of the media outlets linked to them, because they've played every bit of a role in it. It's not a coincidence that the states with the highest vaccination rates voted for Biden while the ones with the lowest vaccination rates voted for Trump.

Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.

Data is increasingly showing that it's killing their voters. All the scummy voting laws that they're pushing won't matter if their voters are literally dying.
 

tmarg

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Oct 25, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
Money. Turns out prolonging the pandemic is going to be expensive.
They don't actually give a fuck about any of the people affected.
 

T the Talking Clock

The Fallen
Jul 12, 2018
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.

I'm going to guess it's pulling numbers among independent voters. They have their base on lock and they aren't capable of widening that base.
 

TeenageFBI

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Oct 25, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
Opinion shifts and opinions in general are discussed and coordinated in daily strategy meetings. Talking points are then distributed among party leaders.

I can only imagine that polling shows that swing voters will blame them for the increasing death count, especially as it's only affecting the unvaccinated.
 

Witness

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Oct 25, 2017
11,143
New York
Good, any little bit of these conservatives finally fucking speaking out for people to get vaccinated is a good thing.

Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.

Covid killing a disproportionate amount of their voters compared to dems now, and it's a bad fucking look for them to have all these deaths in their states when next year is an election year.
 

GameAddict411

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Oct 26, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
Because COVID is sky rocketing in those states while blue state are doing much better. Also their senior voters are impacted very badly by this. They can't keep the illusion that COVID vaccines are hoax anymore to keep their voters stupid.
 

Bard

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Oct 25, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
Maybe they finally realized that their dumbass rhetoric is primarily killing the people that vote for them?
 

SolidSnakex

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Oct 25, 2017
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And I think it's too late for them to change the minds of these people. What's going on with vaccine denial didn't start last year. It started with all the conspiracy theory rabbit holes that Republicans have been going down for well over a decade. Their voters are far down those holes now and they'll just view Republicans telling them to get vaccinated as another ploy by the Deep State.
 

Neo C.

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Nov 9, 2017
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Better late than never, economic uncertainty because of covid is bad for the stock market. The donors are certainly not happy.
 

entremet

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Oct 26, 2017
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You certianly should put blame on them, but also put blame on your party and all of the media outlets linked to them, because they've played every bit of a role in it. It's not a coincidence that the states with the highest vaccination rates voted for Biden while the ones with the lowest vaccination rates voted for Trump.



Data is increasingly showing that it's killing their voters. All the scummy voting laws that they're pushing won't matter if their voters are literally dying.
Yep.

Tucker, Candace Owens, The Idiot Brigade (MTG and others), etc.
 

krazen

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Oct 27, 2017
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I mean, it's too late. The 'don't get vaccinated!' grift is probably a multi-billion dollar one now if you factor in the clicks and snake oil sales and the GOP has poisoned the well where stopping misinformation = censorship.

On top of the Trump Fed government spent first 8 months insinuating it's a hoax and not a big deal.

Better start begging the Fed for more hospital beds, respirators and aid instead. It's going to be a cold winter. And don't doubt for a second the blood isn't on your hands
 

GameAddict411

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Oct 26, 2017
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And I think it's too late for them to change the minds of these people. What's going on with vaccine denial didn't start last year. It started with all the conspiracy theory rabbit holes that Republicans have been going down for well over a decade. Their voters are far down those holes now and they'll just view Republicans telling them to get vaccinated as another ploy by the Deep State.
I agree. The GOP have successfully eroded government trust in their constituents to a great extend that the GOP can't control them anymore. They are basically reaping what they sawed.
 

BassForever

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Oct 25, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.

Same two things that always move republicans, money and power

Delta spiking in their states is costing them and the market money

Delta spiking in their states in red communities hurts their pull with swing voters and is killing off their die hard base

If they thought they could get away with blaming it on Biden/the liberals they would, and we saw them try... but it's not sticking so they did a hard pivot.
 

dots

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Oct 27, 2017
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She's real mad, and also the woman in the background's reaction is real good.
 

collige

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Oct 31, 2017
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There's something particularly vile about governors of states actively fighting Medicaid expansion turning heel like this and blaming the unvaccinated without a modicum of critical thinking.

EDIT: an article on why simply hating on unvaccinated people doesn't cut it
Thanks for this.
Boyd: Anti-vaxxers are incredibly vocal, and because of that, they've been a disproportionate focus of our vaccine outreach. But I think that they represent a small part of people in this country, and especially in our communities of color, an irrelevant part. In our work, we haven't given much credence to their bluster. But the rampant disinformation that's put out by this minority has shaped our public discourse, and has led to this collective vitriol toward the "unvaccinated" as if they are predominantly a group of anti-vaxxers. The people we're really trying to move are not.

Yong: I've never thought of it that way. We're used to thinking of anti-vaxxers as sowing distrust about vaccines. But you're arguing that they've also successfully sown distrust about unvaccinated people, many of whom are now harder to reach because they've been broadly demonized.

Boyd: Yes. The language we use around unvaccinated people comes with a judgment—a condescension that "you're unvaccinated and it's your choice at this point." That attitude is papering Twitter. It's repeated by our top public-health officials. They're railing on the unvaccinated as if they're holding the rest of us back from normalcy. But unvaccinated people aren't a random group of defectors who are trying to be deviant. They're not all anti-vaxxers. They're our kids! Any child under 12 is in that group.
This disproportionate focus on loud anti-vaxxers has definitely made the jump from Twitter to here on Era too.
 

BFIB

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Oct 25, 2017
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Their internal polling must be pointing at some really bad times ahead, especially with suburban vote. It's the only reason they are now coming out telling people to get vaccinated, it's not because they care.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
Delta. They probably assumed enough people would get vaccinated despite them saying it's a hoax to at least keep numbers at bay, but with Delta and their hospitals being swamped again they realized there are enough people not getting vaccinated that they fucked up their gambit
 

TheLetdown

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Oct 25, 2017
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Peddled in the conspiracy theories to earn political points but didn't bank on a more aggressive, more deadly variant coming to fruition, despite the warnings.

Now, deflecting the blame from themselves, the swindlers, to their ignorant base, the swindled.

The pro-life party sure likes playing fast and loose with people's lives.
 

LycanXIII

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
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It sucks in states like Kentucky where the Dem Governor has been trying to stop/limit the spread, but the Republican Congress has fought it the whole time. The Governor is going to get blamed, and not the congress who revoke his power.
 

Tobor

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks for this.

This disproportionate focus on loud anti-vaxxers has definitely made the jump from Twitter to here on Era too.

Kids under 12 are not keeping us from good vaccination rates. There are kids under 12 in every fucking state.
 

spookyduzt

Drive-In Mutant
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,255
Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.

Same reason the mayor of NYC let the Ghostbusters out of jail.
 

pink

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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Maybe they finally realized that their dumbass rhetoric is primarily killing the people that vote for them?

hospitals are filling up in the south

but yeah these are witching hours for the entire nation

ny is back up to october levels and that was right before the fucking massive explosion in the fall


these stupid motherfuckers are about to breed covid-22


Thanks for this.

This disproportionate focus on loud anti-vaxxers has definitely made the jump from Twitter to here on Era too.



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Reckheim

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Oct 25, 2017
9,883
Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
its literally 'profits'; they know that another lockdown is bad for business; and it has to be very obvious to even the dumbest person that the vaccines are very effective.
 

Ramsay

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Jul 2, 2019
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.
Covid's death rate is close to 1% overall, and this increases to around 5% for boomers. As such, the Republicans have realized letting Covid rip and kill tens of thousands of what would otherwise be a reliable GOP voting bloc could conceivably swing a major election.
 

Dis

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Oct 27, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.

All their efforts to stop certain people voting while allowing a huge amount of their people to actually vote easily kind of goes to shit when the people they expected to vote for them are refusing a life saving vaccine and catching a variant of covid that is wrecking places badly. If their voting base dies so does their chances at their power obsessed dreams. On top of that a bunch of them probably fear long term illness for those who survive making the push for universal healthcare an easier sell to their base, as well as fearing their communities causing economic issues because that would effect their chances of staying in power etc. As you said, it isn't about saving lives, it's about keeping their power and position in society.

This is yet another short term gain without looking more than 2 minutes ahead by the GOP. They were all in on the antivax shit while it looked like it would bring them more power and votes, but they completely ignored the issues doing so would cause long term until suddenly it effects them and they realise everyone telling them it would bite them in the ass was right. It's happened over and over, remember their whole "corporations are people and have first amendment rights" shit and arguing for businesses to be allowed to refuse service for any reason to make it harder for gay people to buy a wedding cake? Well that bit them in the ass when social media started banning them for any reason etc. Same as always for these idiots.
 

BassForever

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be honest, she's saying what we are ALL thinking right now. I mean, we've got a thread talking about some dude who was in the hospital with COVID who says he'd rather go BACK to the hospital than get the vaccine. You can't fix stupid.

You just need to incentivizing smart, if red states started requiring anyone 18+ to provide proof of vaccination to enter sporting arenas, restaurants, etc a lot of people would sign up for a vaccine tomorrow. Perhaps a 4th stimulus check worth like 2,000 for every vaccinated person from the federal government regardless of income. It's sad it would have to come to things like that, but it would absolutely get a large number of dumb fence sitters to take the plunge.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Serious question: what exactly prompted all these Republican leaders to turn around like this? Republicans never do the right thing unless it profits them directly. Seeing all these turnarounds in rapid succession is just confusing. I can't believe a bunch of Republican politicians all suddenly and in unison grew a conscience in one week.


This tweet came right before Hannity did a 180.