Gdi bioware
This game is such a mess
That has got to be the perfect gif for this game. God damn. I'm more disappointed I think than anything else and I only rented the game. Would probably be rightfully pissed if I bought this fucking abortion
People are acting like this is strange. No one ever play a game with scaling before? Its really bad in the most recent WoW expac where you literally get weaker every level from 110 to 119 without gaining any no skills, talent, or abilities. Even as your stats get better with gear you get hit harder and do less damage by percentage.
At least you got four of them. KOTOR got 2 and Jade Empire only got 1. :(
Reddit thread is full of people confirming it for a variety of lvl 1 weapons, there's, like, one report to the contrary and it could be caused by something else. On the other hand people who tried lvl 18 weapons (or close number) say these are weaker as expected.
Go into a blind well tier 3 with a level 400-500 weapon and see how that works out for you.
You won't be able to even scratch the common red enemies.
Destiny does this correctly. Once you are over leveled for certain enemies you cease to get stronger against them. So you cant go back to old content and ROFL stomp it. But newbies dont get a damage bonus. Insance
Sounds a lot like the major problems WoW had when BFA launched where the scaling was completely out of whack, and level 110 characters were more powerful than level 120 characters in anything that was scaled. The high end gear and legendaries on a level 110 were giving you so much more bonus stat % over your baseline for the level compared to the level 120 character. It's also probably that they want to overpower the level 1 basekit in Anthem to ease new players into the game. You have an over-budgeted initial item to make newbs feel good when they start playing the game, and their scaling system didn't account for the massively over-budgeted item. I bet the level 1 rifle is the most over-budgeted item in the game by a large margin.
Next patch to feature reverse rarity drops. Level 30 weapons are commons. Level 1 weapons are masterwork/legendary.
They can't die yet, I need some closure on Dragon Age 4! Sad that we are at this stage with BW but I do think they are close to the end of the rope given Anthem's multiple issues.
Not at all. The Division was a hot mess. The issue is they had great examples in D3, Destiny, The Division all loot games all with issues at launch either bugs, lack of content, or design decisions that lead to issues. Anthem had a map already of what to avoid and it looks like they did not pay attention to the issues at launch for the mentioned titles.
GaaS = we can dish out buggy as fk incomplete games and call it a day ,because we are a service and will improve a year from release
This game just keeps getting better.
Atleast the Path of Exile expansion comes out soon so i can distract myself from the fact that i paid 60$ for this pos.
Atleast the Path of Exile expansion comes out soon so i can distract myself from the fact that i paid 60$ for this pos.
Who needs a complete game when you can sell them on road maps.
I paid $115...a week before Quebec added sales tax to PSN orders : (
If this turns out to be true then I have to wonder how did they not check this most basic stat....
Charging full price for this...
Feels like:
to consumers and especially their customers.
Charging full price for this...
Feels like:
to consumers and especially their customers.
How is that different from what I said? Your damage is relative to the enemy with some give depending on your level vs the reccomended level.
Exactly. The game will literally turn off your damage against enemies in D2 if you equip too low of a weapon and your Light Level lowers by too much.
We got three of them, really. Andromeda was...something else.
Destiny just introduced a slew on new bugs as well, you can run but you cant hide!
I think the unintended part is have made visible all the hacks and tricks & mirror they do with the player level, damage and enemy scaling. They will readjust the formula so is less overt... but internally, I'm sure they will still have weapons doing % of total HP to the enemies, it's just that it will be better disguised. If the fake it right, people really won't be able to notice it.
Holy shit, you have my condolences
I woulda done the same if the dlc wasnt about the worst game mode in destiny, that and i really dont like what they said about trials
This is so fucked.
Stop putting scaling in these games. Anthem isn't even shared world in most cases. There's no point in this shit.
Getting tired of bringing up Path of Exile in threads for games of this type, but players should be capable of choosing the difficulty of the content they run, and having the loot scale with that difficulty, not the game dynamically scaling it.
The problem here is that Anthem lies to its players with difficulty levels. One would think those would actually have meaning to them, but they don't.
Genuinely quit WoW this xpac largely due to how scaling works.
Stop putting scaling in these games. Anthem isn't even shared world in most cases. There's no point in this shit.
Yeah, this is becoming a real problem in games like this. Devs seem to be prioritizing the idea of being capable of doing all content regardless of gear and level, but all that does is cause those things to be meaningless, making the climb meaningless.
Getting tired of bringing up Path of Exile in threads for games of this type, but players should be capable of choosing the difficulty of the content they run, and having the loot scale with that difficulty, not the game dynamically scaling it.
The problem here is that Anthem lies to its players with difficulty levels. One would think those would actually have meaning to them, but they don't.
Genuinely quit WoW this xpac largely due to how scaling works.
They''ll consider abusing this bug as an exploit now that it's well known. They have a bad history of banning players for doing stuff like this in Anthem.
Dev Response
The devs have responded :
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheG...ifle_is_the_best_weapon/ehy00eh/?context=1000
So Anthem players, better not use those level 1 guns until the fix and definitely don't stream it.
As others have mentioned, you have a serious misunderstanding how damage works in Destiny. If you are fighting a level 500 enemy and you are level 450 you will not damage that enemy. If you are level 480, you will do very little damage. If you are level 500 you will do the normal amount of damage. The level scaling comes in when you are vastly over-powered for the enemy you are fighting. So if you are 650 fighting a level 500 enemy you will do about the same amount as someone who was 550 because the game wont let you out level enemies by that much. So if you go back and run missions with your newbie friend, you will do more damage then him, but not 20x as much, but if your newbie friend comes to do missions at your level he wont even be able to damage the enemies. It scales the direction to make the game more fun, not to ruin the loot chase.
already posted
the question is if they'll ban you for using starting gear
But the arm chair game devs in this thread say its not a bug. Surely they are the ones to believe!
Shh, you have discover the emperor is naked, but it's bad taste to point it out.
Loot and levels are put in games like this because it sell units. People love leveling up, people love finding stuff with color-coded rarity, people love raising a number that indicates his power or his light or whatever. In reality most of that shit doesn't matter because the game is designed as a coop action game, as you said.
But hey, give people a running wheel for mice and they will gladly jump in and starting running nowhere. It's the reason someone did a report of Anthem's loot after playing 100 times the Mines stronghold, just some days after release day.
My mistake about how scaling works in destiny. Weapons have their own internal powerscaling that factors in when the difference between power of the weapon and the enemy is extreme. That is, a 10 power smg will largely do the same amount of damage as a 650 power smg *in areas of 10-20 power and the power scales different vs your aggregate (total) power. So that 10 power smg will be effective in higher power levels to an extent but will do *very* little damage once you hit very high power areas. So, yes, my mistake in thinking the powerscaling is identical relative to just the aggregate power. As a poster mentioned above, Destiny scales down to flatten dmg for "better" play but doesn't scale up.
No it's only with Level 1 weapons AND a higher level weapon or gear I think.
Well you said damage is scaled to the health of the enemy when it is not. The Raid boss Argos has 13-14 million hp for instance. The damage you do to him is based on perks, gun stat, and level, not health.
I know it won't be for everyone but If you enjoyed KOTOR I really do suggest trying ToR again. It's pretty good these days at pretending to be a single player game. It's still a bit more grindy then a real KOTOR obviously, but there's some decent story arcs in there.
