Apple has said that it will not let Epic Games re-apply to the Apple Developer Program for at least one year.
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Sweeney's brain fart of counting on angry 12 year-olds to push Apple around isn't turning out well? Oh my!
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From what I understand - you could. If you bought that currency on your PC it carried over to your mobile account. I could be mis-remembering though.
Probably, yes. Thing is people are more likely to impulse buy when the icon is right there in the app rather than going through external payment hassle, even if cheaper. Epic got greedy basically, everything else is a smoke screen.
1984, this is facism and I shouldnt have to pay anything to platform holder because im the hero!
They were trying to pressure legal institutions by carefully setting up their entire marketing to generate public uproar. Maybe save the smear campaign next time and people will be on their side as well.
The way Epic has handled this is a complete and utter disaster and I really hope they take all the damage they could possibly get.
I don't feel sorry for them, but I also can't muster any enthusiasm for Apple as a company either 😕 Fuck em' both and just sit back and see what happens is my motto right now.
I'm fighting for the people! This isn't about money! This is what Nineteen-Eighty-Fortnite is all about! Wake up sheeple!
I still can't believe that we're ready to gamble like that. What a colossal miss
They'd have been dumb not to expect such retaliation. Epic must have seen their loss of revenue coming for such a significant amount of time if they were really pulling this legal fight to obtain more open access on ios devices.
I still prefer Epic to pull in the win. I don't care how annoying or whatever Sweeney is.
I still prefer Epic to pull in the win. I don't care how annoying or whatever Sweeney is.
You realize when Apple sued Samsung over how the Galaxy phones looked similar to iPhones, Samsung was still selling Apple components for the iPhone, right?
I don't play Fortnite, will this lead to people who love the game to not buy new Apple Phones this fall and move over to Android or is this not a worry for Apple?
You don't understand. There's a game on EGS they want to play on Steam. It's serious business!
The classic result of a product getting huge and those who made it thinking they're captains of industry, not realizing it was due to luck and good timing.
Meanwhile, in reality, they're just fucking a chicken and wondering why everyone is looking at them funny.
Meanwhile, in reality, they're just fucking a chicken and wondering why everyone is looking at them funny.
Which just proves they really should be more strictly regulated by governments, Epic may have done this to themselves but when such a large company like them don't stand a chance against Apple then absolutely no-one else does either. People may dislike Epic but this championing of Apple having so much control over other companies is just as terrible, it is not a good thing for consumers.
It would never be a perm — they already said prior to the judge's ruling that they would have reinstated Epic/Fornite and all they had to do was remove the hotfix to re-comply with existing regulations. Then after the judge made the ruling they reiterated again that they would reinstate Fortnite if the hotfix was removed. I assume that not being able to reapply for 12 months if your developer account is removed but I would need to read the ToS in the apple developer agreement.
And will only continue to get worse and this companys will continue to grow, we are very close to reach Cyberpunk level of corporation.
I don't think people are actively rooting for Apple, it's just that the way Epic has gone about this whole thing is awful.
Sure, sue Apple but when you weaponise children, breach your contract by sneaking in your own IAP in a "hotfix", refuse to remove it, and then throw temper tantrums on Twitter and pretend it's not about money, you get what you asked for.
I mean, we can still laugh at evil dudes making stupid moves right?
This is like arguing with your dad after you get grounded.
But dad...
"Now it's two years before you can reapply for your dev accounts!"
That's unfai...
"Three years!"
What the...
"Four years!"
But dad...
"Now it's two years before you can reapply for your dev accounts!"
That's unfai...
"Three years!"
What the...
"Four years!"
One game isn't enough critical mass to shift an entire ecosystems worth of investment.
A question for the ages, really. Will people ditch Apple to continue playing Fortnite on mobile, or do Apple users hate Android that much?
Apple is obviously banking on their customers preferring their ecosystem than having Fortnite. We should also factor in ecosystem lock-in - I ditched Apple entirely about a year ago (sold all my Apple devices except for the 2012 Mini I use as a Plex server) and replaced them with alternatives. It was painful and more work than it needed to be, but I got it done. Other people may not feel it's worth it.
I think Epic's end game is far more nefarious than Apple's. So I'd choose that. Plus I remember Sweeney pulling some pretty shitty dismissive egalitarianism stuff in the past, so I even noped out of claiming EGS free games at that point.
Most people will just buy a console to play Fortnite on than leave the Apple ecosystem, which I wouldn't be surprised if Tim is banking on this.
Most people buy iPhones as status objects (even if they don't admit to it). That's not gonna change because of fortnite missing.
Yeah, get hit with an anti-trust lawsuit, behave like a monopolist. I'm starting to doubt these guys judgment. They are going about this the dumbest way possible.
Someone commented that they are sending a message to every other company out there. Just take a second and think how that might look to a judge in between your Sweeney-hate fueled gloating. I still think Epic is in the better position here.
People keep saying this but Sweeney is still throwing his tantrums on twitter.
A company acting like it knows what it's doing would keep its mouth shut on the advice of its legal team throughout the case.
I've all but given up trying to have a conversation about this feud here. The overwhelming majority of people on this forum would rather see Apple become even more monopolistic, evil, etc. if it makes Epic/Tim Sweeney look bad. It's like they're blinded by how much they dislike Epic.