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excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
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View: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis/status/1686089350272909312?s=20

Ignore Ben Burgis trying to defend his queen.

Ana, who has been whining about trans people completely unprompted for months is now going all in on trans people are destroying unity and she is now whining about IDpol like she's Tim Pool

Ana who literally started this unprompted is now blaming the people she targeted for keeping her from talking about the economy
 
Oct 25, 2017
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View: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis/status/1686089350272909312?s=20

Ignore Ben Burgis trying to defend his queen.

Ana, who has been whining about trans people completely unprompted for months is now going all in on trans people are destroying unity and she is now whining about IDpol like she's Tim Pool

Ana who literally started this unprompted is now blaming the people she targeted for keeping her from talking about the economy

Plenty of liberals are definitely only on the 'left'/progressive when it comes to identity politics and are content with centrist policies otherwise, but it's not that we need LESS protection and mobilization for POCs, trans people, etc (we need more), it's just that you can't ignore the economic side of things, intersectional inequality, etc. Kasperian has completely lost the plot but TYT has also been shit for years so it's not too great a surprise.
 

The Boat

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Oct 28, 2017
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I always laugh when so called leftists suddenly turn far right because the community turned on them for some reason or something along those lines. That means you didn't really have convictions, you never actually cared for the people, you just wanted to belong to a club and stroke your ego.
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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Providence, RI

View: https://twitter.com/EncryptedAfro/status/1686167473379319808

Ana is now pushing right-wing copaganda with a video about the epidemic of organized retail theft in America and, of course, specifically focusing in on San Francisco. She cites Walgreens multiple times, despite the fact that Walgreens came out and admitted they lied about the impact that theft had on their business.

In the video, she repeats propaganda from federal authorities that retail theft is an "absolute threat to public safety" and that some of it now involves "international crime syndicates, drug cartels and terrorist groups."

She spends the entire video implying that "the left" is stupid for not believing what the authorities are claiming. You see, if you were a real socialist and not pretending to be one, you would care about these large corporations being stolen from. If you swapped out The Young Terfs logo on the video for a Fox News logo, no one would blink an eye.

One of the top comments on the video.

This video is... surprisingly so poorly researched and a very crudely thought out reply to the narrative to being with.

These companies long since mentioned that they've lied and overdone it with theft numbers and the "Data" proposed here isn't reliable since its either directly from the lying companies who said they lied or its from the "DHS" which is constantly producing flawed, poorly acquired and organized data on such matters. Something they're long since well known for.
 
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After seeing so many pundits and reps slowly shifting to the right, I have this feeling there is a grift. I''ve seen a fair few left and centrist commentator slightly pivots to the right, then after a while, go full force to the right. And I get this feeling it's because of money and loyalty from right-wing audiences, that they are more profitable and gullible to exploit.

They are willing to throw their values and ideals under the bus that I question whether they have them in the first place.

All because right-leaning audiences are much more willing to throw money and willing to go into poverty to give money to some grifter who tells them what they want to hear and make them feel like they are persecuted and are willing to protect them.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
94,465

View: https://twitter.com/EncryptedAfro/status/1686167473379319808

Ana is now pushing right-wing copaganda with a video about the epidemic of organized retail theft in America and, of course, specifically focusing in on San Francisco. She cites Walgreens multiple times, despite the fact that Walgreens came out and admitted they lied about the impact that theft had on their business.

In the video, she repeats propaganda from federal authorities that retail theft is an "absolute threat to public safety" and that some of it now involves "international crime syndicates, drug cartels and terrorist groups."

She spends the entire video implying that "the left" is stupid for not believing what the authorities are claiming. You see, if you were a real socialist and not pretending to be one, you would care about these large corporations being stolen from. If you swapped out The Young Terfs logo on the video for a Fox News logo, no one would blink an eye.

One of the top comments on the video.

Racism, Transphobia, and Homophobia are usually conjoined triplets
 

Kraid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,498
Cuck Zone
It's wild how quickly people go from being upset about trans-inclusive language to full on public goosestepping.
 

Broseph

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Mar 2, 2021
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After seeing so many pundits and reps slowly shifting to the right, I have this feeling there is a grift. I''ve seen a fair few left and centrist commentator slightly pivots to the right, then after a while, go full force to the right. And I get this feeling it's because of money and loyalty from right-wing audiences, that they are more profitable and gullible to exploit.

They are willing to throw their values and ideals under the bus that I question whether they have them in the first place.

All because right-leaning audiences are much more willing to throw money and willing to go into poverty to give money to some grifter who tells them what they want to hear and make them feel like they are persecuted and are willing to protect them.
I don't think so. I think these people just had poor convictions to begin with and start shifting because of ego. They can't stand others on the left criticizing them so out of pure spite, they'll start shifting and as they get more and more validation from the other side that's stopped criticizing them, they start moving full onto the right. I think this describes a lot of these people that move to the right because many of them sound genuinely angry and so many times I have seen it start with leftists disagreeing or calling out one of their takes. Just rots their brain

That said, there are some legit grifters as well but I think many of them legitimately move to the right out of pure rage that other leftists are criticizing them
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think so. I think these people just had poor convictions to begin with and start shifting because of ego. They can't stand others on the left criticizing them so out of pure spite, they'll start shifting and as they get more and more validation from the other side that's stopped criticizing them, they start moving full onto the right. I think this describes a lot of these people that move to the right because many of them sound genuinely angry and so many times I have seen it start with leftists disagreeing or calling out one of their takes.

That said, there are some legit grifters as well but I think many of them legitimately move to the right out of pure rage that other leftists are criticizing them
Which is even more ironic because so many of these "leftists" hawk how much the left in general is so much more open to criticism of eachother, yet when they are called out, that goes out the window.
 

DevilPuncher

"This guy are sick" and Aggressively Mediocre
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Oct 25, 2017
6,963

View: https://twitter.com/EncryptedAfro/status/1686167473379319808

Ana is now pushing right-wing copaganda with a video about the epidemic of organized retail theft in America and, of course, specifically focusing in on San Francisco. She cites Walgreens multiple times, despite the fact that Walgreens came out and admitted they lied about the impact that theft had on their business.

In the video, she repeats propaganda from federal authorities that retail theft is an "absolute threat to public safety" and that some of it now involves "international crime syndicates, drug cartels and terrorist groups."

She spends the entire video implying that "the left" is stupid for not believing what the authorities are claiming. You see, if you were a real socialist and not pretending to be one, you would care about these large corporations being stolen from. If you swapped out The Young Terfs logo on the video for a Fox News logo, no one would blink an eye.

One of the top comments on the video.

I watched the segment…

Like, it's giving Tucker Carlson.

Yikes.
 

Omegasquash

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Oct 31, 2017
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I haven't checked in on this thread in awhile but that last threadmark.

They went in on transphobe talking points awhile back, and the language she uses in the video shared in that last threadmark is something else.

The choice of "journalists" she's defending is mind boggling.
 

the-pi-guy

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Oct 29, 2017
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View: https://twitter.com/EncryptedAfro/status/1686167473379319808

Ana is now pushing right-wing copaganda with a video about the epidemic of organized retail theft in America and, of course, specifically focusing in on San Francisco. She cites Walgreens multiple times, despite the fact that Walgreens came out and admitted they lied about the impact that theft had on their business.

In the video, she repeats propaganda from federal authorities that retail theft is an "absolute threat to public safety" and that some of it now involves "international crime syndicates, drug cartels and terrorist groups."

She spends the entire video implying that "the left" is stupid for not believing what the authorities are claiming. You see, if you were a real socialist and not pretending to be one, you would care about these large corporations being stolen from. If you swapped out The Young Terfs logo on the video for a Fox News logo, no one would blink an eye.

One of the top comments on the video.

- cherry picking examples to "prove" a point.
- harping on the LEFT
- won't someone please think of the corporations
- ignores the data that is in their own graph

It really does feel like a Faux News segment
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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View: https://twitter.com/CherryBreadTV/status/1689555581785583616?s=20
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She has found her people at long last.
 

Big Baybee

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Oct 27, 2017
3,874
TYT hasn't been recommended to me on youtube in over YEARS. Guess what was in my recommended now that they have started their rightward shift?
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
60,611
Wish I had Twitter so I could ask why being bashed online would suddenly make her agree with other right wing views
It's a thing coming up more and more with "long time leftists". Specifically of getting criticized on something with trans related issues, and they lash out about it and their brain breaks. Then trans people inconspicuously get blamed for turning them right wing.
 

Sunster

The Fallen
Oct 5, 2018
10,156
It's a thing coming up more and more with "long time leftists". Specifically of getting criticized on something with trans related issues, and they lash out about it and their brain breaks.
idk what it is about transphobia where once a celebrity goes that route they make it their entire life. Like Chapelle.
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
60,611
idk what it is about transphobia where once a celebrity goes that route they make it their entire life. Like Chapelle.
It's pure brain rot. Transphobia can make anyone immediately into a total fuckwit. Not only is there no chance of them ever going back, but they just sink all the way into becoming full blown hateful bigots.
 

Melpomene

One Winged Slayer
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Jun 9, 2019
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It's all ego. Skin-deep support. They think (or pretend) they support you - or at least tolerate you - in a vacuum, but the second you hurt their pride, the Ego Switch is flipped and you and everyone like you are categorized as The Enemy for eternity, and they will never, ever forgive you for it.

Then more people pile on them (rightfully) for being a stupid, selfish, petty fuck and the list of Enemies grows as they retreat further and further into their right-wing safe space, where people comfort them for their hate instead of calling attention to it. Pure ego. Protect oneself from criticism by reshaping the very core of your worldview at the drop of a hat, go where you are most accepted, regardless who is accepting you or who you have to reject to do it, because the ego is all that matters.

Of course, this is for the ones who ever thought/pretended they were allies in the first place. Not exactly convinced that's the case, here.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I understand the sentiment but I'd rather the thread be easily searchable. There are still a lot of people on Era who need to see.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I almost went looking for that comic when I saw that. Every time.
 

GuessMyUserName

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
5,224
Toronto
If a leftist ever whines about idpol it's an absolutely guarantee that they're gonna say some dumb bigoted shit and swerve straight on over to the right when called out.

Of course, this is for the ones who ever thought/pretended they were allies in the first place. Not exactly convinced that's the case, here.
Kasparian at least pretended when she was making the precise arguments last year that counters her dumb Birthing Person rant this March.
 

Melpomene

One Winged Slayer
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Jun 9, 2019
18,552
Do it like a newspaper headline. "Young Turks become Young Terfs: Cenk and Ana Go Full-Tilt Transphobia!"
 

Kasey

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Nov 1, 2017
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Boise
The left: you can't talk to these people

The right: maybe we can work together to find a solution that both sides can live with

I see you.