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AVENGERS 4 | Speculation Thread (Open Spoilers, Set Photos and Leaks)
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So my girlfriend posed a good theory - Clint's family disappeared in the aftermath of the snap, which is what drives him to go back into the fight.
From the perspective of the Infinity Gems at least. Can argue it goes further than that looking at it other ways, just reordered so people from Earth are fighting him during his quest instead of after it.
I'm wondering if they even start the next film with this happening, and then time skip.
That would be a good moment of catch-up to pull the audience back into the desperation of that scenario.
Loki should stay dead, they did everything they could with his character.
I don't care about Vision and they don't know what to do with him, but now that he's nerfed they could easily resurrect him via Shuri. He even took the time to explain he could exist without the gem.
Heimdall is definitely dead and who really cares tbh.
I don't care about Vision and they don't know what to do with him, but now that he's nerfed they could easily resurrect him via Shuri. He even took the time to explain he could exist without the gem.
Heimdall is definitely dead and who really cares tbh.
Might wanna preface these comments about Captain Marvel with "I dont know much about Marvel Comics but _"
Is this the most acceptable brand of sexism or what? It was sickening with Force Awakens and it's just sad now.
I don't read comics but how powerful Captain Marvel really is? Deus Ex machina powerful like Superman in Justice League?
Also I didn't expect Thor to be so powerful like that with his new hammer, he basically one shotted Thanos at the climax. Is he really that powerful?
Also I didn't expect Thor to be so powerful like that with his new hammer, he basically one shotted Thanos at the climax. Is he really that powerful?
Pretty much.
Hooooh so he is indeed more powerful than Thanos. I didn't expect that.
I also was pretty surprised how OP Scarlet Witch seems to be, destroying an infinity stone and she flipped those multiple giant vehicles like they're nothing.
Well if you haven't realized...
Thor is so OP that he always is somewhere else or gets disabled by something stupid.
See:
- Avengers 1 he did not really warm up with everyone that fast and he also didn't realize his full power here, but he still was the reason they've won or even had a chance
- Avengers 2 gets put away with a filler story
- Thor Ragnarok gets everything taken from him and has to realize that his power was never his true power
- Infinity War gets wrecked without his weapon to channel his power, gets his new weapon and is able to solo the whole army and would have easily killed Thanos
Only Captain Marvel (hopefuly) will be as powerful as him.
Well and Tony with his nano bullshit which I thought was a bit too much with his 1 on 1 with Thanos (even though he didnt have a chance but he tanked too many punches imo).
Edit: Also about Scarlet Witch - in the comics she is like the reality stone (her powers, and she has shown a bit more in this movie too fortunately!) and pretty pretty powerful. One of the most powerful heroes.
Hahah I honestly didn't expect he completely overpowered Thanos like that, I thought they're gonna brawl or something but Thor just killed Thanos in one shot, if only Thanos didn't cheat at the end.
I enjoy talking power levels like this, hahah.
I am still sad that Hulk and Scarlet Witch are nerfed so brutal. Scarlet Witch could whisper that everyone should die and they just would. Reality bending powers are just too OP though. Also it really seems like there is no unlimited rage power up for Hulk in the MCU which undermindes his character. Maybe Banner and Hulk will talk it out and get this power for the future.
I mean Hulk could punch through time. Maybe they should just make Banner angry as much as they can and let them punch them back in time lol
I'm wondering which movie they are gonna sneak a Adam Warlock hint into? Maybe the post-credits of Captain Marvel but he just may be too obscure for that.
They already nodded to him in Guardians 2. Captain Marvel is set in the 90's so it's unlikely to be that.
I can't wait for all the mantears next year when Captain Marvel kicks ass in two films in a row.
I at least somewhat get some of the Force Awakens complaints, I thought Rey power leveled a little to fast but I feel The Last Jedi made it work.
This is literally preemptively complaining that a female character is too powerful before she even freaking shows up. It's kinda ridiculous.
Captain Marvel is gonna be something to see when it comes out.
Everybody but the powerhouses got owned by the outriders. They were supposed to be overwhelming.
BP had a really good showing in CW. He beat Bucky, and stood toe to toe with Cap(even knocked him off his feet), apprehended Zemo.
I would like to see him be a bit more ruthless going forward tho. As far superheroics go, he will have more films and more chances to shine (especially with the OG people bowing out). I feel like powerlevels and feats change with all these characters from film to film. Look at Thor for example, he started out in the MCU nerfed and nobody really cared for him, he finally got a good showing in Ragnarok and IW and now everybody loves him. Same goes for Cap to a lesser extent, he didn't really shine till WS.
Calling a character we've never seen a Mary Sue is kinda silly, but if Captain Marvel is the reason they ultimately defeat Thanos, there's no way that won't feel like a giant deus ex machina.
I don't think that's their play though anyway. Why keep all the OG Avengers alive for one last hurrah in Avengers 4 only to have some newcomer show up and lead the team and be the most powerful?
I don't think that's their play though anyway. Why keep all the OG Avengers alive for one last hurrah in Avengers 4 only to have some newcomer show up and lead the team and be the most powerful?
I heard the movie makers have said that Captain Marvel is going to be unquestionably the most powerful character in the MCU, damnnn, seeing how Thor manhandled even Thanos, how powerful is she going to be??
They better at least introduce Adam Warlock by the time Infinity War 2 rolls around or I'll be very disappointed.
Character's not that obscure, he was very popular in the 70s and 80s, so he might connect with a lot of Baby Boomers.
Character's not that obscure, he was very popular in the 70s and 80s, so he might connect with a lot of Baby Boomers.
If her powerset includes energy absorption, all the punches and blows she'd get from Thanos she could throw back at him.
Russo's confirmed, Adam Warlock won't appear.
I agree that I don't want Captain Marvel to just come and beat the shit out of Thanos, not because she's a woman, I wouldn't want that to happen even if it was Sentry or Hyperion. Would just feel like with Superman in JL.
I don't see him being any part of the movies until Guardians 3. Infinity War 2 is just going to have too much to cover
Suddenly thought that maybe Stark dyed his hair because Pepper died and he want to remember her?
Scarlet Witch reality power in the comics is to do whatever the writer needs. I love the character, but the ppwer is so out there that I don't think it even makes sense to register on a power scale.
She is a skilled sorcerer, but less than Dr. Strange.
Her hex are useful on context, her pew pew are comparable to what she does in the movies.
But when reality alteration enters the equation she might as well be a living reality gem.
She is a skilled sorcerer, but less than Dr. Strange.
Her hex are useful on context, her pew pew are comparable to what she does in the movies.
But when reality alteration enters the equation she might as well be a living reality gem.
There must be some weird time shenanigans I'm missing like Thanos assembles a new army to destroy the past, because the more obvious solution is to visit one of the times when you have the stone in hand and obliterate it.
Tony's garbage disposal solution is still what they went with. Just deprive Thanos of the ability to reverse it.
Tony's garbage disposal solution is still what they went with. Just deprive Thanos of the ability to reverse it.
Part of the appeal of the character of Captain Marvel is that she's sometimes too confident in her powers. She knows she can kick the ass of most people, and she's prone to think brute force diplomacy means she can just right whatever she thinks it's wrong. Instead, sometimes there are a million things you have to consider about the context you're in before kicking the shit out of someone for having a different world view than you is the right choice. Her arrogance/blind idealism in that way (plus her sensitive side when dealing with relationships on earth) is a nice balancing force to her strong powers.
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Because every character up to this point has been directly adapted from the comics with no changes whatsoever.
/s
If there is a time skip, I guess Cpt Marvel has been spending it searching the Universe for farmer Thanos? Assuming she's not been stuck somewhere anyway.
Are they ever gonna do something with Sharon Carter? The SHIELD agent from Civil War, It's been a long time since I've seen it but I felt like they were
foreshadowing something lol
foreshadowing something lol
She isn't needed anymore. Cap got a new beard this movie.
Like what? In the MCU, all the relevant players are involved in the conflict already. There's not going to be wasted time scrounging up a team. IW2 will likely touch on life on Earth after the snap and then focus on what the plan will be for defeating Thanos (which is where Ms. Marvel is likely to come in, but Warlock could be introduced here, too). Not that much to cover, TBH.
I mean, yeah, it's more likely that Adam Warlock's role will be replaced by Strange. But not having him in this story really feels lacking.