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Avengers: Endgame |Spoiler OT| Let's go get this son of a bitch
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Beat the shit out of them? Spider-man
The only people that need to be snapped anyhow is Ned, Flash, and MJ. Outside of that, maybe Betty Brant to continue that particular easter egg
fam if I throw my cat down there and don't end up with the soul stone I'm wrecking the universe
Which will be probably more dramatic and not nearly as bombastic as the avengers movies
I feel The Eternals will be the next thing, leading to Galactus or more Celestials. Well that, but I also think we will eventually see for Phase 4 a Young Avengers initiation, albeit shaken up. Spiderman could be their leader having some actual experience, and I expect Stinger(Cassie Lang), to show up in the inevitable Ant Man 3.
Why would they have any reason to suspect her? Plus she was the only one among those who went to 2014 who knew where Vormir and Morag were, she was the one who programmed the course to Vormir for Clint and Nat. Not to mention the only one who could fly a space ship apart from Rocket...who went to Asgard.
Additionally your comment about "I started thinking about why they didn't go back in time again to stop Nebula the moment they established what they needed for time travel" is confusing to me because :
1) Nebula switcheroo happens like an hour after they established what they needed in time travel. As such you couldn't have known "why they didn't go back to stop Nebula" an hour before you even see her do anything.
2) Going to the past to stop her from doing something won't have any effect on their own timeline.
Was out for coffe with some friends and people in the café was talking Endgame. The cashier said to the party closest to the counter "can you please not talk so loud, i have yet to see the movie". I have never seen anything like this before.
They are monsters/cyborgs. Remember in Avengers 1 when they all stop functionning after Tony destroyed the Mother Ship ?
And the aliens from Infinity War are just some weird ass ultra powerful dogs.
And even then, what is he supposed to do ? To catch them in his webs ? Lol
It was fun watching thanos' army shitting their pants and aiming everything against marvel and she just casually fucks up the gigantic-ass spaceship like nothing.
Someone made a joke that they should've just sent Thor with a keg. Would've been the saddest scene in the movie.
This post raises many good points. We can all explain it away, but the movie doesn't give us explicit answers for these.
Guess this is his rare kill then.
If you love it, then sure? (Well, depends if MCU animals have souls :3) Dunno why you looking to outwit this particular rule and making up implications, it's pretty staightforward.
Sure, but Vision is likely coming back, all I was getting at.
omg thor pouring one out and red skull just looking on confused as hell and then :cut: thor waking up in the puddle with the soul stone would have been hilarious
Lmao I can just imagine that dramatic music with Thor throwing down his keg.
I was super hyped during the fight, seeing Cap get the hammer almost made me overload and faint.
Mindless aliens are getting killed mate, hate to break it to you.
She is definitely working for me from a character building standpoint, she has such hope inspiring confidence and unflinching resolve that it's the perfect setup to face threats on a scale hitherto undreamt of. A greater and different starting point than what came before, I feel they are going to throw crazy shit at her, can't wait.
Yep. We've all gone over these. The film certainly has plot holes. Mileage varies on how much they interfere with enjoyment of course.
Cinemasins won't have to work hard next episode.
Do you really, really don't want to throw your dog down the well? So much that you really hesitate even if the universe is at stake? So much that you would actually consider dying yourself instead of your dog? So much that you'd mourn for your dog in your every waking hour for a long time afterwards? Then yes.
I mean, at that point, does it really matter if you love something else more than your dog?
The movie is just way too sloppy, even for a time travel comic film. I mentioned it in my long post, but the time travel scenes have no tension because you have no idea what the rules are and the consequences of breaking them. Cap can fight Cap and that's fine, it doesn't screw with anything. So, if there is no consequences to being caught, no consequences to kill your past self, no consequences with people meddling with the way events unfolded, then it's hard to feel any tension during these scenes.
Hell, why didn't Tony just tell his dad who he was and share a real, final heart-to-heart? Again, all they gotta do his return the stones later on and somehow that cleans the slate.
It's just too sloppy and as a result makes it hard to invest yourself in those scenes.
Because we don't love things equally. If you can thrown your dog down instead of your spouse then was that really a sacrifice? You love them both, but not equally. The same with the choice between a friend and your spouse.
Um, yes. That's what love is. You can love something a whole bunch and never want to lose it, but if you have to choose between it and another thing you love more then it's going.
Yeah I'll take it, I enjoy Paul Bettany, hell go Asimov and have the show be about a robot learning to be human
I wonder how awkward it must have been for Cap when he went to Vormir to put the Soulstone back into place and was face to face again with the Red Skull
Should've sent Rocket and Groot; save a piece of Groot, then throw him off.
I will say, after a couple days of reflection, I think seeing Endgame opening night was the best viewing experience I've ever had. Maybe not the best movie I've ever seen, but everything combined and jumbled together made it just perfect. I can't get it out of my mind.
Right?
After that blast came out of nowhere, I was super distracted because I half expected several members to have died then.
In retrospect, there's a great sense of desperation when 2014 Thanos and his goons hit the base.
And then Clint just jobs all these outriders.
Will Cap "un-sacrifice" Black Widow since he is putting it back?
Even if it takes 2 years to reverse engineer Pym particles Thanos and Nebula would still arrive when they did and Rocket's already mentioned in the movie that there are several brilliant minds in the universe far ahead of earth beings and we know Maw is a science genius.
Basically my point being I don't think the movie needs to be so verbal about these things and provide explanation for everything, very fact that we can theorise about that without any conflicting theory means we got the intended meaning behind it. I mean we are literally asking an explanation for how Thanos a world conquering individual with an army of otherworldly brains and brawns got an extra tube of something he already had.
Destruction of stones doesn't mean the stones energies are gone. They are still around, just that no one can use them. Which is why our timeline isn't doomed. This should not need to be explained either because energy can neither be created nor destroyed is something we learn in school. Granted MCU isn't hard sci fi, it should still at the very least respect basic law of thermodynamics.
The timeline stuff...I'm just giving up on that. It's a never ending rabbit hole because of the infinite nature of multiverse. Could explain it to some extent but then you run into the fact that it's infinite...and can't do anything really
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I actually think it would have been better if they'd been more cavalier with their approach to the time travel. A lot of the 2nd act felt contrived and expositiony - instead of giving a half-hearted explanation, just commit to the moments they clearly wanted to deliver. Personally I found the second act dull. The final showdown rescued the movie.
"That which you love, a soul for a soul" is not hard to interpret.
The rest of your argument about time mechanics are valid, but your ones for the soul stone are so ridiculous they border on trolling (I know you're not).
If you're on the mountain, and truly love a thing. Even if it's not the greatest love, but still love, and it has a soul, then sacrificing it or it sacrificing itself FOR you, will grant you the stone. Intentions matter.
If they meant "most", they would have written "most". Y'all are reading way too much into this. You give up something you love, you get the stone, exactly as described.
If you want to agonize over rules that were made clear, be my guest.
This, like my god, its not that complicated
Speaking of Cap's hammertime anybody have any ideas what made him worthy when before he barely moved it? I'm thinking before it was just a contest of pride and this time he was in a fight for everyone's lives but that also seems a little too simple. Any events that have occurred over the movies that would make him more worthy?
Everything? No.
The core plot device of the movie though, that has implications not just for the current characters but every future film in the MCU? Yeah. You need to explain how that works.
I never said otherwise.
My point is, you could nitpick for days.
Norton in this sort of film would be a disaster. The ensemble size and amount of moving pieces they have to keep in play would be undercut by an actor constantly trying to get lines/scenes changed because he doesn't care for them. I'm sure Ruffalo has some creative input, but he seems like one of the most laid back and happy actors around. I can't see Norton having that levity on set.
I mean he's had a lot of character development since then. If you think about it he was still keeping secrets about members of the team (Stark parents deaths) but by this time he fully gives himself to everyone else.
He's no longer keeping the secret about Bucky having killed his parents I guess?
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