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Avengers: Endgame will not outgross Avatar worldwide. Who will make an avatar bet about that?
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I would have loved to see endgame crack 3 billion because it's fun seeing records broken but I'm also happy avatar held on. It was just such a crazy insane run that avatar had that it feels like it deserves its place. Also it's hilarious reading back on the all the people in this thread doing premature victory laps. Everyone went off way too early.
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Whatever breaks the record next it needs to just absolutely destroy it. Not barely skirt by and claw for the record. It needs to be something that comes out of nowhere and goes scorched earth on the previous record.
All of this has happened before, and it will happen again.
All of this has happened before, and it will happen again.
It will barely be hanging on by that point. Some cinemas are already not showing it and there are some big movies coming up. It's not going to suddenly start having legs.
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If it follows in IW tracks those weekends will be like $2.5m for lead up week and $1.5m weekend for Spidey. And right now it is trending a good chunk below IW already. So if it gets a Spidey bump it will be like $200k extra or something insignificant.
I dunno, man, my local AMC was still showing Captain Marvel like a week ago
My local AMC, a very new and modeled AMC with Dolby and IMAX stopped showing Endgame yesterday. Captain Marvel lasted longer than Endgame did at that theater.
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Would be the first sequel to set the new benchmark then. It has always been original films or first entries in series that set the box office record so far. Would be cool to see that tradition continue.
I prefer originals to set records personally. One of the reasons I'm happy the Avatar record will likely still stand. But, I hope Avatar 2 delivers mind blowing visual effects... which are all too rare these days.
Is there anything in the pipeline that people realistically has a chance to be record shatteringly huge?
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No. It is Usually something out of nowhere. We expected Endgame to be a monster, and it was. But look back at things like Jaws, Star Wars, or Titanic. Nobody expected them to go that giant.
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I don't think Cameron can threepeat, but I also wouldn't bet against him after the voodoo he pulled twice in a row.
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Wonder what it would have to be to be something this massive. Think it would have to be something that shows off some kind of crazy new movie tech.
Lmao it's probably making $1billion in China alone
Needs a broad and repeat audience. Endgame was hugely front loaded due partly to spoilerphobia and even Feige saying 'hey two weekends and then we'll just spoil shit' and as an end to a series it restricts the audience at least a little bit.
Avatar and Titanic are both action movies and romantic movies rolled into one. So you get people going for the spectacle, for the special effects, for the action, for the romance. Hugely broad audience - probably many people that don't get out to the cinema very often. Thats the kind of thing that lifts movies like Titanic and Avatar above the rest.
Avatar is the 'Everything I do, I do it for you' of movies.
When Endgame came out, I was predicting it would fall short of Avatar. And then got a bunch of people telling me I'm wrong. But now it looks like I was right all along.
Many saw the huge opening and assumed it would smash Avatar. Overlooking that the reason for Avatar's record was its amazing legs, not a huge opening.
Many saw the huge opening and assumed it would smash Avatar. Overlooking that the reason for Avatar's record was its amazing legs, not a huge opening.
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Maybe because of people who saw endgame and had no idea who she was, I have a few friends like that.
To be fair, Avatar had a re-release in theaters that pushed it's numbers up more.
It added ~$10M domestic, ~$30M WW with the rerelease.
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Bear in mind, movies today have access to a much bigger Chinese market than Avatar had.
Only by 30 million, didn't really do much, the fire had ran out already by then. Amusingly that might be enough to stave off Endgame. All movies in the all-time box office charts have all their releases grouped together btw. That's how Titanic got over the two billion mark.
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The fun thing is that is impossible that another movie makes the #2 spot now. It either destroys both Avatar and Avengers, or fail below them. It's just impossible that a movie will sit in between the two
Maybe? Apparently Avengers is only about $90m off Avatar now and it made about $16m last week. Avatar was at the cinema for 34 weeks, from December until August, and Avengers is only on its sixth week. If Avengers sticks around for another month, it could get enough of a bump from Spiderman to push it over.
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