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Baldur's Gate 3 passes Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild to become first game to win all five major GOTY awards

SupersonicHypertonic

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I didn't even know there were 5 awards that were considered major. TGA is obviously the biggest and most well known and GDC and DICE are less known but voted for by the people that make games so they carry lots of weight. Most others are up in the air and you could pick and choose awards from IGN to Golden Joystick to Easy Allies which have varying levels of prestige and popularity
 
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Kattlauv said:
I see it more like praise for BG3 than shitting on anything else.
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Eh, sure, but honestly I'm just tired of the whole discourse at this point so I'm not really inclined to take it that charitably.

Especially when we've already got multiple posters here shouting at some random unseen 'other' with posts like "people who are mad at their favourite game not winning are hilarious." Like, again, it's not enough that the game has won the majority of awards, everyone else has to agree that it's the absolute best thing of all time with no equal or else they're "bitter," or "defensive," or whatever. Especially when, as Nerokis points out above, the only real difference in these arbitrary '5 major awards shows' is BAFTA... 1 awards show out of hundreds.

JudgmentJay said:
What do you want? People to stop voting for their actual GOTY just because it's won a bunch of awards already? That's not rational.
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What?

I'm referring to the thread's topic of the game winning an arbitrary '5 major GOTY awards.'
 
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Patapuf said:
I mean, it was the starting point for a whole genre.
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Dear Esther:

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(Also Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs, The Stanley Parable, Gone Home, Firewatch, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, and more from the genre that came out before Edith Finch's 2017 release)
 
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Plum said:
Honestly, BG3 already won... this is just weird at this point. Very much a "it's not enough that I must win, the others must fail," sort of thing. As if it's not enough for the game to just be the clear majority winner; it has to win everything.
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I feel like if your reaction to a GamesRadar article being titled "Baldur's Gate 3 passes Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild to become first game to win all five major GOTY awards" is to get upset or take offense, then that warrants some self-reflection on your part

Patapuf said:
What people ended up calling walking sims? Story focused 3d adventure Games.
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Dear Esther and Gone Home predate Edith Finch by like 4-5 years
 
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This big 5 stuff is so arbitrary that you can easily say the same thing about Totk btw, It won Edge, IGN and Polygon, who's to say those arent the 3 most prestigious ones? You can even put Era in there too and call it a big 4
 
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Plum said:
Like, again, it's not enough that the game has won the majority of awards, everyone else has to agree that it's the absolute best thing of all time with no equal or else they're "bitter," or "defensive," or whatever.
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This was also true in the year BOTW and Elden Ring won, I know because I dislike both of those games and felt the same way (actually BG3 is the first GOTY I agree in a long time). It's not the end of the world
 
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Having played through BG3 last month, I'm staggered that this beat TotK for GOTY awards. I really liked Act 1, but Act 2 felt more restrictive in terms of exploration and Act 3 really felt like it was dragging its feet. Aside from production values, I also don't see how it's a leap forward from Divinity Original Sin 2. I still really enjoyed my experience with it overall, but it's nowhere near my favourite games of all time.

The only reason I can see Zelda not winning GOTY awards is that it was too similar to Breath of the Wild.
 
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Also not to take away from BG3's "achievement" since I love it but why should I care about awards from these particular venues more than any others? I feel like it's these venues patting themselves on the back to say how much "more" they matter in particular when I'm not seeing it

NSESN said:
This big 5 stuff is so arbitrary that you can easily say the same thing about Totk btw, It won Edge, IGN and Polygon, who's to say those arent the 3 most prestigious ones? You can even put Era in there too and call it a big 4
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An Elite 4 you might say
 
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SunBroDave said:
I feel like if your reaction to a GamesRadar article being titled "Baldur's Gate 3 passes Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild to become first game to win all five major GOTY awards" is to get upset or take offense, then that warrants some self-reflection on your part
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The mildest of disagreement and it's instantly on to questioning the supposed-detractor's mental health with "you need to self-reflect"?

OK.

Patapuf said:
Yeah there's like 4-5 Games from back then you can say out the genre on the map. I still think it's fine to award one them
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Oh, agreed in regards to it being fine to award GOTY to a walking sim (my GOTY 2020 was a casual photography sim lol). Whilst I doubt the vast majority would see it as equal to BotW in its year of release, Edith Finch was an incredible game and it deserved any of the wins it got. It's just not the originator or even the populariser by a fairly long shot; just a really, really good evolution of the formula.
 
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NSESN said:
This big 5 stuff is so arbitrary that you can easily say the same thing about Totk btw, It won Edge, IGN and Polygon, who's to say those arent the 3 most prestigious ones? You can even put Era in there too and call it a big 4
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Do we actually have to explain why Edge / IGN and Era aren't considered as prestigious as the Dice Awards?
 
SunBroDave

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NSESN said:
This big 5 stuff is so arbitrary that you can easily say the same thing about Totk btw, It won Edge, IGN and Polygon, who's to say those arent the 3 most prestigious ones? You can even put Era in there too and call it a big 4
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Kenai said:
Also not to take away from BG3's "achievement" since I love it but why should I care about awards from these particular venues more than any others? I feel like it's these venues patting themselves on the back to say how much "more" they matter in particular when I'm not seeing it
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TGAs are an aggregate of games press awards, Golden Joysticks are entirely fan-voted, and the other 3 are all industry professionals/game developer voted.
 
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Incredible, BG3 has become Thanos collecting all 5 trinity stones. Elden ring and botw should be ashamed of themselves
 
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astroturfing said:
does a video exist that shows all or some of this..? how does it do exploration so much better than say Skyrim or Elden Ring..?
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Given that BG3 is currently the third highest rated game ever on OpenCritic, I would guess that most reviews go into some detail about these things! Go check out some video reviews on YouTube.

Oh and for full context, Elden Ring was my favorite game of all time until Baldur's Gate. And Breath of the Wild is still probably like my #5
 
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Plum i was just messing with ya, dont take it personally, i dont got enough brains or goons to stage a COUP



not YET
 
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Plum said:
Honestly, BG3 already won... this is just weird at this point. Very much a "it's not enough that I must win, the others must fail," sort of thing. As if it's not enough for the game to just be the clear majority winner; it has to win everything.
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Cassius Africanus said:
I mean how can you apply an objective measure to any award show? What qualifies as high profile? My thinking was that it's near impossible to be objective about gaming award shows. It would always come down to what people personally feel is valid because there is no standard. If you thought I was saying all these shows were on the same level that's not what I meant.
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My bad, I realized I wasn't clear - it's not so much calling these the "top 5 award shows" that I'm calling arbitrary. In terms of 1) being dedicated awards (i.e. a step above "gaming outlet's GotY") and 2) prestige, I think that's a fine five to focus on.

But these awards still don't exist in a vacuum. And the difference between 4/5 and 5/5 isn't that big in the first place. I don't think managing 5/5 as opposed to 4/5 differentiates BG3 as specifically appealing to both developers and consumers and it's that kind of framing I feel is taking some arbitrary steps.

Rosebud said:
Those two games received nearly unanimous praise, they don't deserve less because they are indies. I personally prefer them too.
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Never even implied that, lol. Also love those games and didn't mind at all seeing them get their flowers.
 
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