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T0M

Alt-Account
Banned
Aug 13, 2019
900
Copy-pasting from Reddit because it bears repeating.

I've posted this before, but it bears repeating:


2020 is SO much bigger than Biden


A 2020 Trump Presidency would mean:


  • A conservative judiciary the rest of your life. A likely 7-2 SCOTUS, and another massive chunk
  • of lifetime federal judge appointments.

This means unfavorable rulings for: climate change, abortion, gerrymandering, executive power, executive oversight, Congressional authority, civil rights, immigration issues (children in cages), and so, so much more. You can basically say goodbye to this for decades to come with a Trump Presidency. Everything Bernie, Warren, Democrats, and progressives ever stood for is going to take a sledgehammer with a Trump Presidency.


  • It would mean the continuing takeover of an authoritarian rule. Trump has argued he is immune from indictments, from oversight, from the courts, and he has a DOJ and Republican Senate to help him solidify his role as America's King.
  • It would mean further emboldening of a worrying white nationalist, conspiratorial presence in America. Racism, sexism, xenophobia, wild conspiracies, and more would be given a green light.
  • The continued isolation of America on the world stage. Every country on the planet besides NK, Saudi Arabia, and Russia does. not. trust. us. anymore. We are a mockery on the world stage in everything we do.
  • The most corrupt cabinet in history. William Barr, Betsy DeVos, Mnuchin, Wheeler, Pence. It's like a super team of unqualified, horrendous people with enormous conflicts of interest. Every position is basically hired to deconstruct the agency they work for. The intelligence community is being flat-out purged for loyalists.
  • A continuing WAR against climate change efforts and science. Undoubtedly the biggest issue humanity, including our children, grandchildren, and beyond will face.

No matter what your criticisms of Biden are,


Let's remember who Trump is:


-Trump defrauded the government of $400 million dollars.
-Trump ran a fraudulent charity (one that supported veterans and children with cancer) and university.
-Trump cheated on his third wife with a porn star and illegally paid her to keep quiet before an election.
-Trump committed at least 5 felony instances of Obstruction of Justice., including trying to get Mueller (the man investigating him) fired... twice.
-Trump was impeached for Obstruction of Congress and Abuse of Power.
-Trump killed a top general of a hostile nation that posed no imminent threat.
-Trump has over twenty sexual misconduct/assault allegations.
-Trump tried to lie about a hurricane by extending a forecast with a fucking sharpie on a map because he couldn't admit he made a mistake on twitter.
-Trump doesn't believe in climate change.
-Trump thinks windmills cause cancer and raking prevents forest fires.
-Trump is a stable genius - The "nuclear" quote - Another classic

-Trump's only "political experience" prior to becoming President was fueling a racist conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Kenya.
-Trump told a group of minority Congresswomen (3 of which born in America) to "go back" to the countries they came from.
-Trump got on the stage at Helsinki to tell the world he trusts Vladimir Putin over his own intelligence agencies.


At the end of the day, we have a choice to make in November as reasonable adults and Americans.
 

PRrambo_

PlayStation.jif
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,875
Democrats are trash, Republicans are a whole Trash fire, so trash gets my vote.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,405
Well shit.

RIP universal healthcare for America. The dream is dead.
 

Deleted member 82

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,626
*sigh*

Not that I don't understand, but really, US, really? You're gonna try and rally behind an alleged rapist with an incredibly dubious political record?

Leave it to Democrats to steer America to the right, one election at a time. Problem is: your shitty electoral strategies will also affect the rest of the world.
 

Deepwater

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,349
Do y'all think that the only people on the primary ballot was for the presidential nomination? There are other people to vote for
 

Blent

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,176
East Midlands, England, UK
I am an ignorant fool, but I just struggle to understand why so many Democrat supporters in America felt more energised by the idea of Joe Biden than by Bernie Sanders.

Regardless, Biden has to win over Trump. As problematic and genuinely flawed as he is.
 

PhoenixDawn

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,615
No but when all the other candidates dropped out at same time and endorsed Biden that was kinda convenient for Biden. If they would've stayed in just until after Super Tuesday we would be having sanders as the leader right now. This is why people are irate.
Yeah, how dare they not intentionally handicap themselves just so Bernie could win in a election where the odds are in his favor. He's not gonna have that luxury in the general election so if he couldn't even win a primary he would have a snowball's chance in hell at winning a general election. I definitely support Bernie but it doesn't make sense to complain about the DNC not cutting itself at the knees to let an outsider be the nominee. Bloomberg still was in ST and bernie still got destroyed.
 

jeelybeans

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,948
No but when all the other candidates dropped out at same time and endorsed Biden that was kinda convenient for Biden. If they would've stayed in just until after Super Tuesday we would be having sanders as the leader right now. This is why people are irate.

I'm sorry but can't have it both ways. Bernie is not some god send that can beat Trump but then can't beat Biden if all the centrists drop out.
 

PatMan

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
978
Anyone who says this means 4 more years of Trump should hop into poliera and learn why you are uninformed. Biden is crushing Trump in the polls
 

Tahnit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,965
You can either vote to keep kids in cages or you vote to fund a functional government - those are your two choices. Staying at home keeps kids in cages.



I actually think he perfers this, unfortunately. He knows Bernie would bring people out to vote in droves and drive Obama-era excitement among the left

those people are going to vote blue no matter what to get Trump out. Everyone blue wants him out.
 
Oct 27, 2017
371
Y'all don't have to vote Biden, but if you don't, spare us the fake empathy. We already went through this in 2016, remember?

Bernie's legacy will outlast him. For that I'm grateful even though he never had my vote.
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
Member
Oct 26, 2017
60,265
America deserves Trump.
Not a fan of this type of this take because it forgets that:

-Trump lost the popular vote
-2016 was the first national election after SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights Act that led to tons of legalized voter suppression
-Trump is not popular. His approval stays steady but rarely moves, even in a previously good economy and a "wartime" situation
 

Valkrai

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,495
Great, Trump or a diet version of him. Good job on not learning your lesson dems, jfc.
 

Caz

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,055
Canada
Biden will win unless Republicans manage to weaponize coronavirus as voter supression.
You mean that thing they're doing right now in Wisconsin? Because that's what the recent court rulings over mail-in ballots essentially does given the current pandemic.
 

alr1ght

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,059
No but when all the other candidates dropped out at same time and endorsed Biden that was kinda convenient for Biden. If they would've stayed in just until after Super Tuesday we would be having sanders as the leader right now. This is why people are irate.
Nominating someone who could barely crack 30% in the primary seems like a terrible general election candidate.
 

R0987

Avenger
Jan 20, 2018
2,837
Lets just hope that disgruntled bernie support arent gonna vote for trump now like they did in 2016.
 

WedgeX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,228
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I don't care if it was inevitable... I'm still upset.

You're certainly allowed.
 

KDC720

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,336
It was inevitable, but he was right to bow out at this point.

Bernie has left a huge mark on politics these past 2 elections in a very positive way. Even if he is not the president, he can still and will continue to do a lot of good.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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sad day for the country especially given our current crisis

respect to sanders for his 2016 and 2020 runs, his impact will be felt for decades